MyVote
08-14-2011, 02:40 PM
Disclaimer: You have to have an average IQ or higher if you are to reply to this thread. (someone with below average IQ already demonstrated that he didn't understand this part)
I will provide links regarding certain issues to back up my statements here, unless you actually read what is in these links, do not reply to this thread.
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I really like Ron Paul, as a person he seems to be a very genuine and honest man.
I don't see the usual narcissistic traits that many politicians exhibit.
His views on foreign policy and the war on drugs are areas I agree strongly with him on.
Despite this, there are several areas where he is completely ignorant and lost which makes me very undecided whether or not to support him...
I'd like to hear how his devote followers defend some of his positions or justify voting for him indespite of these issues if you too recognize them as wrong.
Abortion
As a rational atheist my self, I do not have any pre-concieved notions regarding abortion.
There is simply no bias that affects my view on abortion, so obviously I am pro-choice.
The whole idea that life starts at conception is a lie, a lie that destroys the life of millions across the globe.
If you are going to be pro-life, you have to debunk this article first, if you cannot do this you are lying to yourself:
http://hplusbiopolitics.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/inconsistancy-in-the-life-begins-at-conception-argument/
Now that we've proven that life does indeed not start at conception we can move onto the idea that different states should have the right to decide whether or not to recognize these facts.
The whole idea that random people, as long as they are the majority can somehow decide reality is mentally insane to say the least.
Where science can give us answers, we have to listen to science.
When science says that cutting off someones main artery will lead to their death, we can not throw a vote on whether this is or is not true and thus decide whether it's legal or not to kill someone...
Lastly, if different states where to have different laws this would cause a lot of confusion for people who move and travel from state to state.
A woman in state X would have to do the abortion in state Y etc.
Why this is retarded is self-explanatory...
Global Warming
The vast, vast majority of scientists in this field (who are the only ones who know the facts) agree that global warming is a fact.
It is already taking place and this decade has been the warmest in recorded history.
Every huge scientific body has independantly reached this conclusion.
Scientists predicted global warming and how it would take place detailed over 60 years ago.
That is science, you make a prediction and if you are right reality will show you...
Now there are unfortunately some people out there who are mentally handicapped and think that global warming is a conspiracy.
They often cite "Ph.D's", but fail to check that persons credential.
Often the person they are citing may have a PhD in English, which gives him no authority on climate change.
The consensus of scientists that are experts in this field is that global warming is occuringa nd that it is indeed man-made: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Scientific_co nsensus
Another failed product of nature on this website's chat thought that the e-mails that was hacked from a institute in the UK was somehow "proof" of a global conspiracy.
What he failed to realize was that the whole scandal was nothing but misinterpretation of the terminology scientists use.
This whole scandal was produced by Fox News with Glenn Beck leading the way.
If you want to understand what really was written in these letters check out this break down of it right here: http://youtu.be/tz8Ve6KE-Us
Another ill informed Ron Paul voter said that "even NASA doesnt believe in global warming anymore!"
Fact: they do... http://climate.nasa.gov/warmingworld
Now that we have established that global warming is indeed occuring some might still ask: "Well even if it does, why is it important to this election?!"
Because it is a global phenomena with unimaginable consequences and the US has one of the highest outputs of CO2 (yes CO2 cause global warming, go back to 5th grade if you disagree).
This means regulations on businesses and taxes on certain things that contribute to this have to be in place.
Ask the farmers of the US who is experiencing the worst draught in their memory how they feel and try to think of the bigger picture...
This will not only ruin the US, it will kill millions in the coming decades all over the world (take a look at Somalia right now).
So how can you still justify voting for a man who is so painfully uneducated that he thinks it's some sort of scam?
Evolution
Ron Paul has stated more than once that he does not believe in evolution or atleast the real darwinian evolution and that he wants the states to decide whether the schools should teach evolution.
This displays an incredibly bad attitude and lack of respect for science.
The US needs more educated children that can bring this country back into order, not more worthless bible worshippers!
You cannot let states decide what to teach kids...
Plus the fact that he is so unaware of science is very, very scary.
I am no Obama-fan, but atleast Obama respects science and realize that science is the only reason we live like we do today and not like in the dark ages...
Gay Marriage
People are born gay just like people are born straight so why shouldn't they have the exact same rights and liberties as heterosexuals?
This might seem like a thrivial issue, but it is not, it affects around 5-10% of the population and cause stigma and misconceptions regarding gays.
Either everyone has the right to get married or none should have...
This again displays a severe lack of common sense on Ron Paul's part.
I will provide links regarding certain issues to back up my statements here, unless you actually read what is in these links, do not reply to this thread.
-
I really like Ron Paul, as a person he seems to be a very genuine and honest man.
I don't see the usual narcissistic traits that many politicians exhibit.
His views on foreign policy and the war on drugs are areas I agree strongly with him on.
Despite this, there are several areas where he is completely ignorant and lost which makes me very undecided whether or not to support him...
I'd like to hear how his devote followers defend some of his positions or justify voting for him indespite of these issues if you too recognize them as wrong.
Abortion
As a rational atheist my self, I do not have any pre-concieved notions regarding abortion.
There is simply no bias that affects my view on abortion, so obviously I am pro-choice.
The whole idea that life starts at conception is a lie, a lie that destroys the life of millions across the globe.
If you are going to be pro-life, you have to debunk this article first, if you cannot do this you are lying to yourself:
http://hplusbiopolitics.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/inconsistancy-in-the-life-begins-at-conception-argument/
Now that we've proven that life does indeed not start at conception we can move onto the idea that different states should have the right to decide whether or not to recognize these facts.
The whole idea that random people, as long as they are the majority can somehow decide reality is mentally insane to say the least.
Where science can give us answers, we have to listen to science.
When science says that cutting off someones main artery will lead to their death, we can not throw a vote on whether this is or is not true and thus decide whether it's legal or not to kill someone...
Lastly, if different states where to have different laws this would cause a lot of confusion for people who move and travel from state to state.
A woman in state X would have to do the abortion in state Y etc.
Why this is retarded is self-explanatory...
Global Warming
The vast, vast majority of scientists in this field (who are the only ones who know the facts) agree that global warming is a fact.
It is already taking place and this decade has been the warmest in recorded history.
Every huge scientific body has independantly reached this conclusion.
Scientists predicted global warming and how it would take place detailed over 60 years ago.
That is science, you make a prediction and if you are right reality will show you...
Now there are unfortunately some people out there who are mentally handicapped and think that global warming is a conspiracy.
They often cite "Ph.D's", but fail to check that persons credential.
Often the person they are citing may have a PhD in English, which gives him no authority on climate change.
The consensus of scientists that are experts in this field is that global warming is occuringa nd that it is indeed man-made: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change#Scientific_co nsensus
Another failed product of nature on this website's chat thought that the e-mails that was hacked from a institute in the UK was somehow "proof" of a global conspiracy.
What he failed to realize was that the whole scandal was nothing but misinterpretation of the terminology scientists use.
This whole scandal was produced by Fox News with Glenn Beck leading the way.
If you want to understand what really was written in these letters check out this break down of it right here: http://youtu.be/tz8Ve6KE-Us
Another ill informed Ron Paul voter said that "even NASA doesnt believe in global warming anymore!"
Fact: they do... http://climate.nasa.gov/warmingworld
Now that we have established that global warming is indeed occuring some might still ask: "Well even if it does, why is it important to this election?!"
Because it is a global phenomena with unimaginable consequences and the US has one of the highest outputs of CO2 (yes CO2 cause global warming, go back to 5th grade if you disagree).
This means regulations on businesses and taxes on certain things that contribute to this have to be in place.
Ask the farmers of the US who is experiencing the worst draught in their memory how they feel and try to think of the bigger picture...
This will not only ruin the US, it will kill millions in the coming decades all over the world (take a look at Somalia right now).
So how can you still justify voting for a man who is so painfully uneducated that he thinks it's some sort of scam?
Evolution
Ron Paul has stated more than once that he does not believe in evolution or atleast the real darwinian evolution and that he wants the states to decide whether the schools should teach evolution.
This displays an incredibly bad attitude and lack of respect for science.
The US needs more educated children that can bring this country back into order, not more worthless bible worshippers!
You cannot let states decide what to teach kids...
Plus the fact that he is so unaware of science is very, very scary.
I am no Obama-fan, but atleast Obama respects science and realize that science is the only reason we live like we do today and not like in the dark ages...
Gay Marriage
People are born gay just like people are born straight so why shouldn't they have the exact same rights and liberties as heterosexuals?
This might seem like a thrivial issue, but it is not, it affects around 5-10% of the population and cause stigma and misconceptions regarding gays.
Either everyone has the right to get married or none should have...
This again displays a severe lack of common sense on Ron Paul's part.