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sailingaway
08-13-2011, 06:26 PM
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61282.html

http://images.politico.com/global/blogs/110813_bachmann_rule_465.jpg

This was buried in another thread but I thought more people might want to see it.

nobody's_hero
08-13-2011, 07:39 PM
Wow that's lame.

It would have been funny if Randy Travis was like, "Oooh, Ron Paul's here?!! Hang on, I'll be back after while."

Edit:

"No, wait. I'm not coming back."

Sola_Fide
08-13-2011, 07:41 PM
Ohhhh I see....

WarNoMore
08-13-2011, 07:44 PM
give them the circus and they'll vote away their freedom.

IPSecure
08-13-2011, 07:46 PM
She should have offered free help with tax returns...

smartguy911
08-13-2011, 07:46 PM
who the heck is Randy Travis???

bunklocoempire
08-13-2011, 07:56 PM
who the heck is Randy Travis???

He's not Ricky Skaggs. Does that help?

:D

Buying votes for a 'beef sundae' and a song, not too shabby. Clever monkeys.

Clever liberty dissin' monkeys.

Bunkloco

Aliangel
08-13-2011, 07:57 PM
Another reason why we won.

AZKing
08-13-2011, 07:57 PM
who the heck is Randy Travis???

He was on episode of King of the Hill once... all I know.

Dustancostine
08-13-2011, 08:01 PM
Bachmann all bread and circuses.

speciallyblend
08-13-2011, 08:02 PM
bribery right down bachmann's alley!!

AuH20
08-13-2011, 08:03 PM
What I want to know if why we didn't do this?

New York For Paul
08-13-2011, 08:03 PM
She won. We should learn and adjust our focus and move on.

Carehn
08-13-2011, 08:04 PM
She would have gotten more votes had she offered free health care instead.

pcosmar
08-13-2011, 08:05 PM
What I want to know if why we didn't do this?

Ron Paul actually has principles.

sailingaway
08-13-2011, 08:05 PM
She won. We should learn and adjust our focus and move on.

She won, but in discussing the narrative it is certainly appropriate to point out that Randy Travis will not be at the caucuses.


Ron Paul actually has principles.

He's also cheap a fiscal conservative.

When you calculate the amount spent, I wonder how much she paid per extra vote?

speciallyblend
08-13-2011, 08:05 PM
Another reason why we won.

you betcha we just kicked the gop establishments azz all over iowa:) they had to bribe folks to beat Ron paul ,very sad indeed for bachmann and the rest of the failed gop est/neo-cons!!

nobody's_hero
08-13-2011, 08:07 PM
What I want to know if why we didn't do this?

Because we wouldn't be able to look ourselves in the mirror?

New York For Paul
08-13-2011, 08:09 PM
She is Getting millions in free press, radio and Tv. Huge loss for RP and missed opportunity.

Wren
08-13-2011, 08:11 PM
What I want to know if why we didn't do this?

I would honestly be disappointed if the campaign did this. Ron isn't a political whore and it's one of the main reasons people like him.

AuH20
08-13-2011, 08:13 PM
Because we wouldn't be able to look ourselves in the mirror?

It's politics.

pcosmar
08-13-2011, 08:15 PM
She is Getting millions in free press, radio and Tv. Huge loss for RP and missed opportunity.

Ron will get plenty of mileage out of it. He can get some well deserved sleep tonight.

Bachmann will burn out.
Ron is a long distance runner, not a sprinter.

amy31416
08-13-2011, 08:20 PM
Damn. Reminds me of high school when 3 friends and I all ran for student government. We "campaigned" on a platform of blatant bribery, lies and corruption--we gave people M&M's to vote for us, we promised less homework, longer breaks between classes and gave a couple of speeches making other asinine promises. A completely sarcastic campaign.

We won because it was hilarious.

I don't think it's so funny when it actually happens, and they aren't being sarcastic and cynical about political processes. The only effect we had on other students was where the prom was held and what the theme was.

nobody's_hero
08-13-2011, 08:43 PM
Damn. Reminds me of high school when 3 friends and I all ran for student government. We "campaigned" on a platform of blatant bribery, lies and corruption--we gave people M&M's to vote for us, we promised less homework, longer breaks between classes and gave a couple of speeches making other asinine promises. A completely sarcastic campaign.

We won because it was hilarious.

Just imagine if you would have had Randy Travis! lol

"He will do everyone's homework for them"

newbitech
08-13-2011, 08:53 PM
Just think, if not for Randy Travis and Ron Paul, the GOP would have rolled over and played dead for the second time in 2 weeks. (the first being the debt deal compromise).

sailingaway
08-13-2011, 08:57 PM
She is Getting millions in free press, radio and Tv. Huge loss for RP and missed opportunity.

Ron wouldn't have gotten that and you know it. She was booked on all five weekend shows when it was still thought Ron might win They were going to spin his win as a 'straw poll wonder' as it happens she was so blatant about what she did and his set up was so low key, I think many came away much more favorably impressed towards Ron than to her. I think Ron will get at least as much media as if he won, because she'll get more and most will feel they have to mention that Ron came so close. They wouldn't have given Ron that media. What Ron doesn't have is the trophy to show donors, and that is significant, I agree.

White Bear Lake
08-13-2011, 09:28 PM
Should have brought in Eric Church or Zac Brown. We'd have won for sure.

Occam's Banana
08-14-2011, 12:27 AM
When you calculate the amount spent, I wonder how much she paid per extra vote?

Considering ONLY the cost of tickets to the campaigns, Ron got MUCH more bang for the buck.

Bachmann paid for 6000 tickets, which she (fully) subsidized at $30.00 per ticket.
Ron paid for 4000 tickets, which he (partially) subsidized at $20.00 per ticket.
Given their respective vote totals, we get the following:

PER VOTE

Bachmann:
6000 tickets x $30.00 = $180,000
$180,000 / 4823 votes = $37.32 per vote

Paul:
4000 tickets x $20.00 = $80,000
$80,000 / 4671 votes = $17.13 per vote

So Bachmann paid [$37.32 - $17.13 =] $20.19 MORE per vote than Ron did.

PER EXTRA VOTE

Bachmann spent $100,000 more than Ron did to get just 152 more votes than Ron did.
So: $100,000 / 152 votes = $657.90 per extra vote

Anti Federalist
08-14-2011, 12:46 AM
Damn. Reminds me of high school when 3 friends and I all ran for student government. We "campaigned" on a platform of blatant bribery, lies and corruption--we gave people M&M's to vote for us, we promised less homework, longer breaks between classes and gave a couple of speeches making other asinine promises. A completely sarcastic campaign.

We won because it was hilarious.

I don't think it's so funny when it actually happens, and they aren't being sarcastic and cynical about political processes. The only effect we had on other students was where the prom was held and what the theme was.

"Well, I say we need more asbestos! More asbestos! More asbestos!"

LibertyEagle
08-14-2011, 12:51 AM
Should have brought in Eric Church or Zac Brown. We'd have won for sure.

Who?

blocks
08-14-2011, 02:00 AM
Who?

I don't know any of these guys!

akforme
08-14-2011, 02:40 AM
I don't know any of these guys!

Zac Brown is pretty good, he seemed like a bit of a neocon to me though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOe25IfD0GE

blocks
08-14-2011, 02:47 AM
Zac Brown is pretty good, he seemed like a bit of a neocon to me though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOe25IfD0GE

Ah, it's country. My first love in music is 90s hip-hop. A close 2nd is just about everything but country. Johnny Cash is as country as I get. :P

Paulatized
08-14-2011, 05:40 AM
I would honestly be disappointed if the campaign did this. Ron isn't a political whore and it's one of the main reasons people like him.

Maybe he want's to know his votes were because of his stand on the issues, not because of bribery or coercion.

Noob
08-14-2011, 06:45 AM
Penn & Teller would be great as a show he might be able to get.

Revolution9
08-14-2011, 08:32 AM
Ah, it's country. My first love in music is 90s hip-hop. A close 2nd is just about everything but country. Johnny Cash is as country as I get. :P

Hip hop and rap are at the bottom of my list. Mind you, I am a real musician that appreciates the abilities of others to play real instruments and not sample tracks from real musicians and bark and puke over top in stilted or non-existent rhythm and rhyme and call it their own and they are producers or creative artists or whatever bullshit moniker they attach to their ripoffs..

Rev9

New York For Paul
08-14-2011, 08:57 AM
Money well spent. She is getting millions in free publicity and stature in the GOP. RP is getting much less.


Considering ONLY the cost of tickets to the campaigns, Ron got MUCH more bang for the buck.

Bachmann paid for 6000 tickets, which she (fully) subsidized at $30.00 per ticket.
Ron paid for 4000 tickets, which he (partially) subsidized at $20.00 per ticket.
Given their respective vote totals, we get the following:

PER VOTE

Bachmann:
6000 tickets x $30.00 = $180,000
$180,000 / 4823 votes = $37.32 per vote

Paul:
4000 tickets x $20.00 = $80,000
$80,000 / 4671 votes = $17.13 per vote

So Bachmann paid [$37.32 - $17.13 =] $20.19 MORE per vote than Ron did.

PER EXTRA VOTE

Bachmann spent $100,000 more than Ron did to get just 152 more votes than Ron did.
So: $100,000 / 152 votes = $657.90 per extra vote

tasteless
08-14-2011, 09:03 AM
The only reason I know who Randy Travis is is from that one Hey Arnold episode where Mr. Hyunh was a country singer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPKC6EcDwxI

IPSecure
08-14-2011, 09:06 AM
I was hoping Arlo Guthrie (http://arlo.net/) would have played...

Occam's Banana
08-14-2011, 09:23 AM
Money well spent. She is getting millions in free publicity and stature in the GOP. RP is getting much less.
Yes. Too bad it will all have been for nothing when the wheels come off her campaign (as I suspect they eventually will).
The national MSM would have ignored a Ron Paul win, but all the free extra coverage in the Iowa press would have been nice going in the caucus.

foofighter20x
08-14-2011, 02:34 PM
http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9383315.jpg

Theocrat
08-14-2011, 02:37 PM
Ron Paul actually has principles.

Yes, our beloved congressman has principles, but he didn't have an introductory video before his straw poll speech, which may have gained him more votes (from those Iowans who vote based on appearance and emotion). :(

sailingaway
08-14-2011, 02:46 PM
http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9383315.jpg

lol!

Jingles
08-14-2011, 02:48 PM
A country musician will only take you so far. This may work in a place like Iowa. CA, OR, Washington, the north, NH? You'll have more people saying "Who?" than anything. Whatever her Iowa strategy is it won't work in NH. The thing is Ron Paul can appeal everywhere. If he is in the midwest/south he can talk about how his views are inline with moral beliefs and etc... If he is in the North or Far west he can emphasize personal liberty and such. All of which he can do consistent with his beliefs and principles. He can appeal to people wherever he goes. I don't think Bachmann really has that ability.