Watch the debate here and interact with Fox!

[StudentForPaul08]

http://live.foxnews.com/

They will be asking questions and letting us answer during the debate on this page. We should get as many RP supporters on here as we can! Join in and join the discussion as the debate is streamed live.

[harikaried]

Need to ask social conservative questions like Patriot act, wiretapping, surveillance to show why Bachmann isn't Tea Party.

[noneedtoaggress]

talking about Ron & supporters right now...

positive stuff so far...

[harikaried]

Interesting with the thumbs up/down voting for questions that show up on the bottom of the video.

[Agorism]

Romney is doing Cain's numbering system now when he answers...heh

[Dorfsmith]

Is there an official debate thread somewhere?

[brushfire]

chat is fn' annoying. The political commentary loop is annoying to.

[jware]

Is there an official debate thread somewhere?

I would like to know as well!

[jct74]

Is there an official debate thread somewhere?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?307962-Official-Ames-debate-thread!

[GunnyFreedom]

Fox has broken the chatter and the voter on my client lol

[wstrucke]

The stupid voter thing doesn't load.

[axiomata]

So its not just me...

[wstrucke]

Have they asked RP any questions yet? Infuriating.

[FSP-Rebel]

Ya, can't get connected in either.

[FSP-Rebel]

Wow, Paw and Bachmann are really goin at each other!

[sailingaway]

There is a twitter bomb too, using #ronpaul and @ronppaul2012 OK, this is depressing, the debate won't play for me. the chat works but I'm not picking up the audio visual of the debate. I'll try somewhere else.

[majinkoola]

Romney said he and Cain were the only 2 that worked in the private sector. I think Ron being a doctor qualifies as private sector!

[Shimpchip]

Alternative stream: http://www.justin.tv/amesdebate

[RonPaulFever]

gaaaahh....he has got to stop trying to cram an entire economics lesson into 30 seconds. I cringe whenever he starts talking about the business cycle. 99.9% of Americans have no idea what the hell is talking about and it makes him look bad.

[Shane Harris]

did they just ask huntsman the ron paul 2007 question!?!?

[Shane Harris]

ignoring ron? really?

[Chieppa1]

This is a fucking joke.

[eleganz]

Jesus Christ, I haven't seen Ron since I started tuning in, which is about 20-30 minutes ago...

[FSP-Rebel]

Ron had like 1 question while the rest of them have at least 3 or more. Complete fraudulent debate. Considering the polls lately and esp in IA, they really have the nerve to keep the game up. Whatever:rolleyes:

[gosmo]

Ron -1
Romney -4
Cain -3
GINGRICH - 3

Really?

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Yeah they're ignoring Paul.

[wstrucke]

Yeah they're ignoring Paul.

Are you honestly surprised?

[eleganz]

RP killed that question, now we wait another 30 minutes for them to get back to him...

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Are you honestly surprised?

Unfortunately no.

[sailingaway]

Ron Paul is in 3rd place in Iowa with 16% per Rasmussen
Ron Paul is in 3rs place nationally per CNN and Gallup - all polls within the last week. within a couple weeks before that, we learned Ron Paul polls better against Obama than anyone except Romney, who is no conservative.

I sure hope we aren't the only one noticing Fox's bias!

[wstrucke]

We have to use this as motivation to work harder, spend more, do whatever is necessary to fight the people that seek to control out government.

[rich34]

This is complete and utter BS! How can we combat this?? They are controlling the perception. We gotta pull off an Ames victory!

[Agorism]

Are there Paul supporters in audience?

[Harry96]

If you remember the last debate in 2008 (I believe on ABC, but I could be wrong), it was down to McCain, Romney, Huckabee and Paul, and they still spent probably 75% of the time talking to McCain and Romney; they even sat them together to get them frequently in a two-shot. As I recall, Ron even made a comment about it during the debate. It's infuriating, but it's not surprising. It is what it is.

[FSP-Rebel]

Ron Paul is in 3rd place in Iowa with 16% per Rasmussen
Ron Paul is in 3rs place nationally per CNN and Gallup - all polls within the last week. within a couple weeks before that, we learned Ron Paul polls better against Obama than anyone except Romney, who is no conservative.

I sure hope we aren't the only one noticing Fox's bias!
Yeah, it HAS to be obvious by now the scam that's going on.

[Harry96]

I love how everyone is still building up Pawlenty as a contender, when he's at 2-3% despite being shoved down everyone's throats for six months. He's as exciting as vanilla ice cream on a white plate.

[wstrucke]

Yeah, it HAS to be obvious by now the scam that's going on.

It's obvious because we're paying attention. Most people are just passively watching this -- you have to point this out and bring this up to everyone.

[Maltheus]

This is the Anderson Cooper Regan National library debate all over again. They ain't even being slick about it.

[Harry96]

I despise Santorum, but he has a point: getting his first question almost an hour into the debate is unfair.

[FSP-Rebel]

It's obvious because we're paying attention. Most people are just passively watching this -- you have to point this out and bring this up to everyone.

I meant obvious in that when one of the key players has the least amount of chances to speak, it becomes a scam.

[Harry96]

It's obvious because we're paying attention. Most people are just passively watching this -- you have to point this out and bring this up to everyone.

This, unfortunately. I remember talking to my uncle about Ron at Christmas in 2007. He asked why Ron was getting into the race so late. I told him Ron had been in since the spring and had been in every GOP debate that year. He looked at me dumbfounded and told me he had seen every debate -- but, as far as he could recall, he had never heard of Ron. The subtle and not so subtle tricks the media uses to set up anointed front-runners tend to be very effective.

[FriedChicken]

No one but a small minority will point out Fox's bias - Fox can do no wrong by the average fox viewer.
Try not to attack fox on this when talking a fox viewer though, we need those votes and can't afford to alienate them. Draw them in, don't push them away.

I get to practice this everyday with a co-worker.

... I hate fox so much.

[wstrucke]

No one but a small minority will point out Fox's bias - Fox can do no wrong by the average fox viewer.
Try not to attack fox on this when talking a fox viewer though, we need those votes and can't afford to alienate them. Draw them in, don't push them away.

I get to practice this everyday with a co-worker.

... I have fox so much.

There is no possible way to point out this corruption without making Fox look bad. You just have to point out they are doing this. Make the facts clear and unignorable.

[Harry96]

Okay, so I was wrong: they were doing Santorum a favor by not allowing him to speak.

[wstrucke]

Fox is a joke.

[PreDeadMan]

fox is fucking bullshit asking ron like 3 questions in... most of the debate?

[PreDeadMan]

Hahahh yes ron paul!!!!

[eleganz]

It is wise by fox because the more questions Ron Paul got, the more applause and people might actually find out one of the candidates actually make sense.

By FOX's standards, this is the smartest thing to do so they can cover their asses.

[Harry96]

I love everyone except Ron kissing Perry's a**.

[PreDeadMan]

here we go israel ass kissing LOL

[eleganz]

Damn, he just got schooled in history by the good doctor!

[PreDeadMan]

LOL ron paul just slapped that guy

[Harry96]

Santorum seems seriously unstable.

[Benjam]

Paul supporters need to be civil. It turns people off when you get pissy and yell at rick. We are in this race. Chill. We're getting some good coverage.

[ChiefJustice]

A big smile crept across my face when Santorum tried to challenge RP.

[Maltheus]

He woke up a bit on that last question. Even if it does work against him for most of the party. But many will recognize truth when they hear it.

[RonPaulFever]

LOL ron paul just slapped that guy

LOVE your avatar - I'm a huge KD fan!

I hate to say it but Ron is blowing it tonight. He needs to formulate CONCISE answers that appeal to Republicans and independents, not just his base of supporters. He's bumbling worse than ever, totally incoherent at some points. Last time around he framed a lot of his answers around the Constitution; this time around he's kinda all over the place. It's sad because he's so articulate on the cable news shows, but put him on a stage in front of a crowd and he falls apart.

[eleganz]

Ron Paul just schooled Bachmann as well, thats two spankings in the span of 5 minutes.

[PreDeadMan]

man ron paul is getting much more.... LOUDER lol.... and serious WOW....

[nobody's_hero]

This is Bullshit. Santorum is exactly what Bush was when it comes to foreign policy.

The republicans need new talking points. Hello! *This is the rhetoric that lost the 2008 election.*

[Harry96]

I think Ron is dominating, but it's impossible to know how he's coming across to those on the fence. There was a pretty strong mix of cheers and boos from the crowd when Ron talked about the trillions of dollars the wars cost.

[rockandrollsouls]

I didn't like hearing the "boo's" about Ron's foreign policy...I'm afraid that exchange could hurt us.

[Chieppa1]

Ron just destroyed. I'm fucking pumped.

[RonPaulFever]

I think Ron is dominating, but it's impossible to know how he's coming across to those on the fence. There was a pretty strong mix of cheers and boos from the crowd when Ron talked about the trillions of dollars the wars cost.

He's treading into Mike Gravel territory, losing his cool and yelling into the mic. I'm not getting a good feeling from his replies and it's really sad to watch.

[Harry96]

He's treading into Mike Gravel territory, losing his cool and yelling into the mic. I'm not getting a good feeling from his replies and it's really sad to watch.

He's just coming across as passionate to me. But, like I said, I can't know how it comes across to people on the fence; hopefully their perception is closer to mine and further from yours.

[rockandrollsouls]

He was very clear, calm, and concise in the exchange...the volume increase seemed to be more of a rally cry at the end...."Look at what's going on here!"

Still, I wish he would have avoided that exchange with Santorum. It hurt us....Ron really only had time to come off as what the establishment has painted him as..."Anti-War." Not a chance to really communicate his stance....


He's treading into Mike Gravel territory, losing his cool and yelling into the mic. I'm not getting a good feeling from his replies and it's really sad to watch.

[nobody's_hero]

Ron Paul is destroying them in our eyes. I'm afraid it doesn't sound like the crowd is ready for it.

Let them have their $1 trillion foreign policy. They want to be idiots and follow the same path as the soviet union when it collapsed under the weight of its foreign military commitments. Some people are incapable of learning from the misfortune of others; they have to suffer themselves for their eyes to open (and even then, there's no guarantee they'll wake up).

[showpan]

dam, they won't show my comments...lol..it looks like this whole board is there posting

[RonPaulFever]

hopefully their perception is closer to mine and further from yours.

I hope so too. I'll admit that my perception might be distorted as I've watched every single thing he's said over the past 4 years :)

[wstrucke]

I'm afraid it doesn't sound like the crowd is ready for it.

The "crowd" is hand picked by Fox News. This is Television. It isn't real. This is completely staged. Don't get confused on that point.

[MozoVote]

It may play differently to viewers and people who read about the debate. It is becoming an acceptable conservative position that families are being damaged by soldiers doing repeated tours away from them, and that we need to wrap things up in Afghanistan now that Bin Laden is dead.

[eleganz]

Regardless what happens it is still the 'REPUBLICAN' party where most are pro-war, anti-terrorism, what have you.

Anybody supporting anti-war has a chance to get boo'd, what did you think, everybody would cheer? Welcome to realities guys, I'm glad RP got firm.

[mpdsapuser]

Rick Santorum is clinically insane.

[eleganz]

Rick Santorum is clinically insane.

Yea seriously...no abortion for you even if you get raped...

[mpdsapuser]

Santorum debates like a 12 year old kid. Scary guy.

[mpdsapuser]

LMAO. Another Cain question answered with "problem not solved or defined"...

[PreDeadMan]

a cheap shot by that fucking dickhead

[mpdsapuser]

What did Santorum expect Paul and Bachmann to do? Inflict physical violence and pain on their colleagues? They did their part, they spoke out against the bill and voted no. To me, as Representatives that's all they can do.

[Ronulus]

Let Paul respond to Santorum, that guy is a fucking nut job.

[wstrucke]

Didn't RP sponsor the Audit the Fed movement? He should have brought that up

[Harry96]

Maybe Santorum is pissed off because Hair Club rejected his demand for a well-deserved refund, and he's taking his anger out on Ron.

[Benjam]

Santorum is Spiderman!

[Harry96]

Not one mention of Ron 10 minutes into the Hannity show.

[HoosierJayhawk]

bought 2 shirts $44.50