Poll results: Ron Paul in first among Republican males

[Elwar]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/08/11/gop2012poll.pdf

Total Men Women White Non-White
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Frm Speaker Hse Newt Gingrich 5% 7% 3% 6% N/A
Frm AK Gov Sarah Palin 12% 10% 15% 12% N/A
Teas Congressman Ron Paul 12% 17% 5% 9% N/A
Frm MN Gov Tim Pawlenty 2% 2% 2% 2% N/A
Frm MA Gov Mitt Romney 17% 12% 22% 18% N/A
Frm PA Sen Rick Santorum 2% 3% 1% 3% N/A
MN Cong Michele Bachmann 7% 9% 4% 7% N/A
Frm Utah Gov Jon Huntsman 4% 4% 4% 3% N/A
Businessman Herman Cain 4% 5% 3% 3% N/A
Frm NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani 12% 12% 11% 13% N/A
Frm NM Gov Gary Johnson * * * * N/A
MI Cong Thaddeus McCotter * * 1% * N/A
Texas Governor Rick Perry 15% 13% 16% 15% N/A
Someone else 2% 2% 3% 2% N/A
None/no one 4% 2% 7% 4% N/A
No opinion 2% 2% 3% 3% N/A
Sampling Error +/-4.5 +/-6.5 +/-7.0 +/-5.0

[sailingaway]

Woot!

We have to get Ron's kinder gentler side out there.....

[trey4sports]

the most important demographic we should build on is the 65+

considering we're doing VERY poorly with them now, we should be able to do some micro-targeting with direct mail and easily add a couple percent.

[PastaRocket848]

ron has always been far more popular with men than women. women are emotional beings. libertarianism doesn't play well to people who don't look past the intention, like "feeding the children" and see the logical side of the argument. it may be sexist to say it... but it's just human nature, atleast imho.

[sailingaway]

the most important demographic we should build on is the 65+

considering we're doing VERY poorly with them now, we should be able to do some micro-targeting with direct mail and easily add a couple percent.

Sent them this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXKrdE2x5og&feature=youtu.be

[sailingaway]

ron has always been far more popular with men than women. women are emotional beings. libertarianism doesn't play well to people who don't look past the intention, like "feeding the children" and see the logical side of the argument. it may be sexist to say it... but it's just human nature, atleast imho.

I've seen studies saying women are less financially secure and tend to be more the heads of single parent households, more likely to be a paycheck away from needing aid. That also might have something to do with it. What people need is more opportunities to earn money, though, with a recovered economy, not more government.

[trey4sports]

Woot!

We have to get Ron's kinder gentler side out there.....

Agreed. The great thing is that we can micro-target these niches. Increase numbers with women? Send an anti-war and pro-life mailer to registered female voters. Want to target old people? Send a mailer about shoring up medicare and S.S.

Granted i don't think now is the time to do that but rather close to the caucus. The point is we have a LOT to be positive about.


ron has always been far more popular with men than women. women are emotional beings. libertarianism doesn't play well to people who don't look past the intention, like "feeding the children" and see the logical side of the argument. it may be sexist to say it... but it's just human nature, atleast imho.

you are correct.

[trey4sports]

Sent them this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXKrdE2x5og&feature=youtu.be

Didn't know you could send Youtube video through the mail :p

[sailingaway]

Didn't know you could send Youtube video through the mail :p

You can email links and send DVDs :p

[tfurrh]

any particular reason two posts were deleted? one being mine?

[IDefendThePlatform]

The absolute best way for us to increase our numbers with women voters IMO would be to get Grandma Carol as much airtime as possible. That and put this essay on every website and street corner everywhere:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/paul-carol1.html

[IndianaPolitico]

Wow, the momentum is bulding very quickly! I understand why Ron's numbers with woman aren't as high, I hope we can raise them a bit. What is funny is that it was my Mom who told me about Ron Paul, and was the first in my family to support him!

[wgadget]

Whoops. I thought he was in first with women also, but that would be Mitt's claim to fame.

MITT? Really??

[sailingaway]

Wow, the momentum is bulding very quickly! I understand why Ron's numbers with woman aren't as high, I hope we can raise them a bit. What is funny is that it was my Mom who told me about Ron Paul, and was the first in my family to support him!

You need to show the pbs interview for the social security medicare approach, and then you need to work on basic trust, not the issues necessarily imho. Ron has been painted as heartless. His free work and discount work for poor patients both in his private practice where he never took medicare or medicaid and in the Catholic charity hospital where he moonlighted as a flight surgeon, his not taking the federal pension because he felt it was immorally rich particularly when he knew the government wasn't going to be able to fulfill its promises to seniors in the way it was pretending....his refusal to engage in red meat politics or brag about himself. There was a statement by a 'standard conservative' in his district about how he fights to get seniors their wheel chairs and provides more constituent services thgan others while returning a portion of his office budget to the treasury every year. She said, "I don't like his vote, but I trust his heart."

He should easily appeal to head AND heart, but some won't put the homework in, or just don't understand the issues enough to understand why his positions are the best. And trust goes a long way.

[libertyfanatic]

Whoops. I thought he was in first with women also, but that would be Mitt's claim to fame.

MITT? Really??

Must be the hair...

[sailingaway]

Whoops. I thought he was in first with women also, but that would be Mitt's claim to fame.

MITT? Really??

Don't diss the hair....

[IndianaPolitico]

Must be the hair...

We need to get Ron a Mitt Romney wig... Ok, maybe not.

[specsaregood]

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[sorianofan]

ron has always been far more popular with men than women. women are emotional beings. libertarianism doesn't play well to people who don't look past the intention, like "feeding the children" and see the logical side of the argument. it may be sexist to say it... but it's just human nature, atleast imho.

True 100%. That's why I think every single woman is a drooling moron aside from my mother, sister, daughter, wife, etc...


Seriosuly though, women are less rational and their voting habits reflect that.

[specsaregood]

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[silentshout]

Not sure why other women don't get Ron Paul. I am a former Dem, so perhaps selling them on his anti-war stance would work with those types, but honestly, I have no idea what traditional Republican females vote for or what they are into.

[kill the banks]

well pushing no wars is one way ... baby dr ... truth honesty with proof ... and get ron's wife to put out best recipe book with family bio / available at speech places Ron goes to ... show the family values !

[dannno]

ron has always been far more popular with men than women. women are emotional beings. libertarianism doesn't play well to people who don't look past the intention, like "feeding the children" and see the logical side of the argument. it may be sexist to say it... but it's just human nature, atleast imho.

You should start a new thread about this topic, I don't think it has been discussed here before.

[IndianaPolitico]

It is amazing how far ahead of where we were last campaign, and just a few weeks ago! I did my own poll average based on the Real Clear Politics one, minus the McClatchy/Marist inaccurate poll. Ron Paul now has a national average of 9.8%!

[Feeding the Abscess]

For women, push the OB/GYN angle, but don't slam the "ABORTION IS MURDER!!!" idea home unless she has already stated her beliefs on abortion. For pro-choice women who are wary of his pro-life beliefs, bring up his stance that the federal government should have no say in the matter; that it is a state issue.

[libertybrewcity]

Come on dudes. Let's get our game on and start respectfully recruiting females to vote for RP. :)

[libertybrewcity]

For women, push the OB/GYN angle, but don't slam the "ABORTION IS MURDER!!!" idea home unless she has already stated her beliefs on abortion. For pro-choice women who are wary of his pro-life beliefs, bring up his stance that the federal government should have no say in the matter; that it is a state issue.

No? I feel like this method works everytime.


At least we don't have to start with Santorums' numbers: 1%

[RonPaul101.com]

Must be the hair...

Or the fire-proof underware...

[dusman]

I'd say the best place to start are our soldier's mothers. If you have never talked with or heard the perspective of a soldier's mother, you should take a moment and listen.

I think they would be very open to Ron Paul's ideas and would give great voice to the female support.

[papajohn56]

Need need NEED to build the 65+ age group. This is imperative. I'm not kidding when I say go stumping in retirement communities. Many of them don't know much about him.

[KingRobbStark]

The "females are to emotional for libertarian ideas" argument is somewhat valid. I think it applies more to mothers, than single childless females. I think we should focus on the latter.

[S.Shorland]

Deny them sex until they vote for RP.

[Dianne]

I've seen studies saying women are less financially secure and tend to be more the heads of single parent households, more likely to be a paycheck away from needing aid. That also might have something to do with it. What people need is more opportunities to earn money, though, with a recovered economy, not more government.

That surprises me. His anti war message alone should be pulling in female voters... what's not to like about spending US tax dollars at home, rather than Afghanistan or Iraq?

[LibertyEagle]

Ron badly needs to slow down and complete a thought before going on to the next one. There is no reason why women would not be attracted to the idea of pulling their sons and daughters out of these foreign wars and bringing them home to defend our OWN country.

[Diurdi]

The "females are to emotional for libertarian ideas" argument is somewhat valid. I think it applies more to mothers, than single childless females. I think we should focus on the latter.
It's valid because on average female's are more driven by emotion, intuition and prefer not to take less risks.
While on average men are more driven by logic (altough absolutely no guarantee that it's good logic) and don't mind taking risks as much.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Damn 19th amendment.

[amy31416]

Yeah...okay. You smug fellas do realize that it was you who re-elected Bush in a vast majority, women didn't even have the vote when the Federal Reserve Act was voted in, etc. Right?

Why did so many men vote for Bush in 2004? Logic or emotion?

How many times will this subject come up? How many threads will there be with you guys whining that women are:

not slutty enough
too slutty
too emotional
too controlling
too weak
superficial
not pretty enough
too fat
too skinny
too old
too young
too socialist
too career-oriented


My point: Men have just as many good points/bad points as women. If you'd like to point fingers and blame women, you're a victim-mentality jerknose.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

When campaigning for him we need to use words like "Frontrunner, Popular, Awesome," etc.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Yeah...okay. You smug fellas do realize that it was you who re-elected Bush in a vast majority, women didn't even have the vote when the Federal Reserve Act was voted in, etc. Right?

Why did so many men vote for Bush in 2004? Logic or emotion?

How many times will this subject come up? How many threads will there be with you guys whining that women are:

not slutty enough
too slutty
too emotional
too controlling
too weak
superficial
not pretty enough
too fat
too skinny
too old
too young
too socialist
too career-oriented


My point: Men have just as many good points/bad points as women. If you'd like to point fingers and blame women, you're a victim-mentality jerknose.

Yeah I agree.

I think that the demographic of more men liking Ron's views is that men in today's society is the largest group that gets screwed by socialism.... most of the socialist programs target women and minorities. It's easier to recognize the injustice of the system when its hypcrocrisy effects you first hand.