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sailingaway
08-10-2011, 03:10 PM
http://www.newsmax.com/DougWead/ron-paul-churchill-tea/2011/08/10/id/406863

by Doug Wead

Can't say I'm drawn to the comparison....

but it's an excellent article.

anaconda
08-10-2011, 03:12 PM
No, since Ron is not a fat, war mongering, imperialist, banking cartel insider.

RM918
08-10-2011, 03:16 PM
Do you mean JACK Churchill?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill

Then, yes.

sailingaway
08-10-2011, 03:18 PM
Do you mean JACK Churchill?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill

Then, yes.

LOL!

That's rich!

The article really is better than the comparison, though.

RP Supporter
08-10-2011, 03:20 PM
I read this as "Is Ron Paul the American Cthulhu?"

The comparison makes as much sense, oddly.

KingRobbStark
08-10-2011, 03:33 PM
I read this as "Is Ron Paul the American Cthulhu?"

The comparison makes as much sense, oddly.

lol

MarcNY
08-10-2011, 03:37 PM
Do you mean JACK Churchill?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill

Then, yes.

Doug Wead mentions that he is talking about Winston and Doug claims to be the senior adviser to Ronnie.

harikaried
08-10-2011, 04:25 PM
Remember what made Churchill such a dramatic figure in history?

Being right on the issues of his time, and being alone, being pure in this thinking. That gave him a moral authority to rapidly change things when he came to power. In that sense, Winston Churchill was the Ron Paul of his time. He was a legislative pariah. Hated by both political parties.

At one time, the laughingstock of the press. Often voting alone on many issues in parliament but he was prophetic about what was coming and when the nation realized that all of their experts were wrong and Churchill had been right, they turned to him.

And people are turning to Ron Paul now.

Rothbardian Girl
08-10-2011, 04:51 PM
no, since ron is not a fat, war mongering, imperialist, banking cartel insider.
lol.

libertybrewcity
08-10-2011, 05:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtFFnFiJzTo

ProIndividual
08-10-2011, 06:08 PM
I think he's Barry Goldwater, and Perry/Romney/Bachmann are Nelson Rockefeller.

nobody's_hero
08-10-2011, 06:43 PM
I think he's referring to the circumstances Churchill faced, not necessarily the policies of Churchill.

Remove the policies, and the parallels are quite mind-boggling.

TruckinMike
08-10-2011, 07:01 PM
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KramerDSP
08-10-2011, 07:16 PM
I once linked a similar article about RP being compared to Churchill in terms of circumstances, and half the forum jumped down my throat. I think this analogy is great for converting neo-cons who adore Churchill.

Pro-Life Libertarian
08-10-2011, 07:19 PM
I think he's Barry Goldwater, and Perry/Romney/Bachmann are Nelson Rockefeller.

That isn't a good comparison to make for political purposes. Goldwater got crushed and most ignorant people think he was a racist.

Andrew Ryan
08-10-2011, 08:14 PM
No, since Ron is not a fat, war mongering, imperialist, banking cartel insider.

This.

georgiaboy
08-10-2011, 08:17 PM
Wead - pure genius.

AGRP
08-10-2011, 08:18 PM
No, since Ron is not a fat, war mongering, imperialist, banking cartel insider.

lol.

If anyone he's Thomas Jefferson or Taft.

georgiaboy
08-10-2011, 08:24 PM
I think he's referring to the circumstances Churchill faced, not necessarily the policies of Churchill.

Remove the policies, and the parallels are quite mind-boggling.

+rep, exactly. Also, Churchill's circumstances and his strength in the face of them just so happen to tickle the loins of mainstream GOP'ers. Well played, Mr. Wead.

civusamericanus
08-10-2011, 08:26 PM
+rep, exactly. Also, Churchill's circumstances and his strength in the face of them just so happen to tickle the loins of mainstream GOP'ers. Well played, Mr. Wead.
^^ Churchhill doesn't appeal to RP purist, but the average Republican will like it.

FYI I reposted the video on face book and changed the title to:
"Which Presidential Candidate could be revered like Winston Churchill?"

cindy25
08-10-2011, 09:04 PM
Adenauer would also be a good comparison, as would Mr Chips.

Cutlerzzz
08-10-2011, 09:17 PM
I think he's referring to the circumstances Churchill faced, not necessarily the policies of Churchill.

Remove the policies, and the parallels are quite mind-boggling.

This. Churchill was awful, but when the average American hears a professional historian, on national television, claim that Ron Paul is like Churchill, that will do us well.

Matt Collins
08-19-2011, 01:24 PM
Doug Wead was just using a metaphor and was NOT endorsing Churchill. Doug is very educated and realizes how complex Churchill was. He was trying to reach a popular audience and yielding to popular opinions to communicate our ideas.

Acala
08-19-2011, 01:51 PM
I liked the article and agree that churchil is huge with the Greatest Generation (choke) Republicans.

But it is an oddly organized article, isn't it? Not a standard essay form.

Acala
08-20-2011, 08:14 AM
So I sent this article to my Dad. But first a little background.

Dad is a WWII combat vet, now retired after a successful career in large corporate management. Smart man, staunch Republican with neocon leanings but a true fiscal conservative. I have been able to sway him somewhat on world empire issues by pointing out that we can't afford it.

Dad is part of a vast viral email network that circulates humor, political polemics, interesting photographs and such, with a strong "Greatest Generation" theme. He gets tons of email and passes most of it on to his own list of addressees, usually without adding his own comments.

So I sent this article to Dad. And the following day it came right back to me, not individually but as one of the names on his forwarding list, AND with Dad's positive remarks added in the body of the email. So, in my limited sample of one, this article has indeed struck a nerve with a WWII-era Republican.

Standing Liberty
08-20-2011, 10:04 AM
The circumstances are very similar. I think most Americans and especially conservatives view Churchill in the likes with Reagan.
Socialists, Communists and Liberals hate Churchill. Obama even replaced a Churchill stature with a picture of himself.
Overall, I think it is good to be compared with Churchill, especially when so many neocons compare RP with Neville Chamberlain. Also, many people bring up RPs age. Churchill was 77 when he was elected Prime Minister in 1951, and he was an overweight smoker who drank like a fish.

Jace
08-20-2011, 10:24 AM
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