View Full Version : Paul + Napolitano '08: The Dream Ticket
Matt Collins
11-01-2007, 11:49 PM
If this has already been discussed, my apologies... but here goes...
"Ron could say he will need a partner who is as passionate as he is about liberty, individual rights and free enterprise. That one person would have to know the constitution inside out and be an uncompromising champion of the Bill of Rights. His name came up in August on one of the Ron Paul Yahoo group posts.
There is one person who fits that criteria, Andrew Napolitano, a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, who is the senior judicial analyst at Fox News Channel, and the author of The Constitution in Exile, Constitutional Chaos: What Happens When the Government Breaks Its Own Laws, and the forthcoming A Nation of Sheep.
Andrew would be a superb vice presidential candidate. He is smart, articulate, with a great sense of humor. He would be the first Italian-American male on a national presidential ticket. In 1984 Democrat presidential candidate picked the relatively unknown New York representative Geraldine Ferraro to be his running mate.
A Ron Paul/Andrew Napolitano ticket would have geographic balance, ethnic and religious diversity as well as having the greatest spokesmen for liberty campaigning for president and vice president in our nation’s history.
A Paul/Napolitano ticket would energize the Italian-American community as never before in American politics
A Ron Paul/Andrew Napolitano ticket would galvanize traditional conservatives, libertarians, fiscal conservatives, civil libertarians, pro-lifers, gun owners, entrepreneurs, hard money advocates, noninterventionists, and any one else who wants to end the Imperial Presidency and create a free America.
A Paul/Napolitano ticket would crush Hillary or Obama or Edwards or Richardson.
In short, the presidential dream ticket of Ron Paul and Andrew Napolitano would be…(fill in the blank). I am at a loss for words. "
SOURCE:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sabrin/sabrin8.html
great idea should pass it on to the HQ
foofighter20x
11-02-2007, 12:11 AM
How 'bouts we wrap up the nomination first, then pick a Veep, k?
Otherwise, we may be counting our chickens before they hatch. Picking a Veep now is only a distraction form getting the Ticket to begin with.
georgia_tech_swagger
11-02-2007, 12:17 AM
Mark Sanford for VP. He has Congressional experience. He provides instant credibility boost. He brings in the Christian Conservative votes. He's done an effing BRILLIANT job as Governor here in SC. He was often the only one voting for or against bills in Congress with Dr. Paul. He is the best VP for Paul... period.
american.swan
11-02-2007, 12:19 AM
If there is a chance that a Supreme Court position will open up, I think the Judge should go there. WHY? A lifetime on the Supreme Court would do much more good then 4-8 years as VP.
Is it possible to nominate a VP for a Supreme Court Position??? That would be odd.
picking one now, or even hinting at someone of interest might stir up some good press AND bring in their supporters, especially the judge. that would bring in fox news closer to us, MAYBE
foofighter20x
11-02-2007, 12:30 AM
If there is a chance that a Supreme Court position will open up, I think the Judge should go there. WHY? A lifetime on the Supreme Court would do much more good then 4-8 years as VP.
Is it possible to nominate a VP for a Supreme Court Position??? That would be odd.
Not really...
A Veep going to the SC would be a first, but not really odd...
Our 27th President, William Howard Taft, was later the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
American
11-02-2007, 12:31 AM
Since the Iraq issue or National Security is going to be huge I think Colin Powel would be a good VP. He's a centrist, and I think he is still credible.
Syren123
11-02-2007, 12:40 AM
A Napolitano for Attorney General first. He has got to straighten out that mess of a Justice Department. There's major housecleaning to do and God only knows how many innocent border agents to be freed and exonerated, not to mention secret torture jails to be closed down and numerous other wrongs to be righted...lots of work there.
By the time one of those remaining traitors on the Supreme Court bench (the ones who delivered a stolen election) mercifully kicks the bucket, then he can live out the rest of his days doing what he does best...interpreting the Constitutionality of what pass for laws in this country.
That's my vote.
starless
11-02-2007, 12:45 AM
I also think Mark Sanford is the best choice.
foofighter20x
11-02-2007, 12:49 AM
A Napolitano for Attorney General first. He has got to straighten out that mess of a Justice Department. There's major housecleaning to do and God only knows how many innocent border agents to be freed and exonerated, not to mention secret torture jails to be closed down and numerous other wrongs to be righted...lots of work there.
By the time one of those remaining traitors on the Supreme Court bench (the ones who delivered a stolen election) mercifully kicks the bucket, then he can live out the rest of his days doing what he does best...interpreting the Constitutionality of what pass for laws in this country.
That's my vote.
I suggest everyone here be ever careful and wary of the phrase "constitutional interpretation."
The framers didn't believe the Constitution needed to be interpreted because they specifically provided for it's amendment.
What the phrase we all should be behind is "constitutional application."
What does that mean? It means that the constitution--and the treaties and laws derived from such and with its meaning from 1787 intact--should be applied to the case to determine the proper outcome.
If no constitutional answer can be found, then the case needs to be remanded to the state in which the contest originated, as the federal government holds no authority to provide a ruling.
Also, remember that the Supreme Court can only rule on points of law that are brought before it. It can't rule a law unconstitutional unless the law itself is contested as such in the court having original jurisdiction.
That's why when you sue the government on these things, you need to sue on every reason you can think of... ;)
Syren123
11-02-2007, 12:50 AM
I also think Mark Sanford is the best choice.
What about that woman governor of Alaska? She sounds pretty savvy and looks great. That would at least give the feminists who hate Hillary but feel compelled to support their cause reason to jump ship and feel good about it.
Okay what's the story on her - the good and especially the bad.
Flirple
11-02-2007, 12:50 AM
To me, the judge is the obvious choice. How great would it be to steal one of Fox News's own? He is not a divisive figure (like John Stossell is) and he already has a built-in fan base. Great way to convert a few neoconservatives.
And I think he should absolutely announce a VP ASAP before the primaries so that people can start to imagine what a Paul administration would look like. And this way we can have 2 people actively campaigning instead of just Ron Paul campaigning on the side of his full-time job of being a congressman.
Also, this would be a great way to set up Mr. Napalitano for a future run for office in the unlikely case that RP didn't become president. We need to find the next Ron Paul for future campaigns for the Revolution to Rally around because lets face it, Ron Paul isn't exactly a spring chicken. Much in the way that Goldwater's campaign really was the groundlayer for Reagan to win years later (even though he failed to deliver his campaign rhetoric once he got elected).
foofighter20x
11-02-2007, 12:51 AM
How 'bouts we wrap up the nomination first, then pick a Veep, k?
Otherwise, we may be counting our chickens before they hatch. Picking a Veep now is only a distraction form getting the Ticket to begin with.
I also think Mark Sanford is the best choice.
And I think no one listened to me... :(
libertythor
11-02-2007, 01:27 AM
If a VP like Mark Sanford or Napolitano were to be named now, the press coverage would be tremendous, and in the case of Sanford, SC would be in the bag.
But, for now lets focus on the nomination.
american.swan
11-02-2007, 01:41 AM
Since the Iraq issue or National Security is going to be huge I think Colin Powel would be a good VP. He's a centrist, and I think he is still credible.
I don't think so. Armed Madhouse hints that he left the white house because they didn't use his plan to attack Iraq. Unsure about any other issues he had with his fellow Bush Admin.
scudiac
11-02-2007, 02:05 AM
I think Napolitano would be a great running mate. I think the press coverage would be tremendous and it would really boost the campaign.
James R
11-02-2007, 02:20 AM
Since the Iraq issue or National Security is going to be huge I think Colin Powel would be a good VP. He's a centrist, and I think he is still credible.
I liked everything about him until he stated the stuff about Iraq government and terrorism being related. But I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he simply spent too much time around neocons and was tricked by their apparent confidence in that matter.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Colin_Powell.htm
SeanEdwards
11-02-2007, 02:57 AM
How 'bouts we wrap up the nomination first, then pick a Veep, k?
Otherwise, we may be counting our chickens before they hatch. Picking a Veep now is only a distraction form getting the Ticket to begin with.
I'm not convinced that's necessarily true. I believe it was suggested on that political chowder interview with Arnie Arneson that she thought George Bush's candidacy was greatly helped by announcing his VP and cabinet picks early. It showed organizational strength, and it added more bodies able to campaign for the candidate.
If Paul could announce a strong VP that could pull in votes I think it could be a big boost. It's not as if Paul is going to seriously consider any of the other current candidates, except for maybe Tancredo, so he doesn't need to worry about that.
Personally I like Napolitano, but I also like Palin a lot. Having a woman VP could do a whole lot to defuse the effect Hillary will gain by potentially being the first woman President. Honestly I think that is the biggest thing going for Hillary. A lot of women are going to pull the lever for her, just because of the historic opportunity of putting a woman at the helm of state.
James R
11-02-2007, 04:03 AM
Personally I like Napolitano, but I also like Palin a lot. Having a woman VP could do a whole lot to defuse the effect Hillary will gain by potentially being the first woman President. Honestly I think that is the biggest thing going for Hillary. A lot of women are going to pull the lever for her, just because of the historic opportunity of putting a woman at the helm of state.
I think you are right that we'd have a larger vote count with a woman announced as VP ahead of the primaries. I doubt if there is any woman with name recognition who has many Ron Paul views though.
quickmike
11-02-2007, 05:44 AM
Since the Iraq issue or National Security is going to be huge I think Colin Powel would be a good VP. He's a centrist, and I think he is still credible.
"A moderate Republican, Powell is well known for his willingness to support liberal or centrist causes. He is pro-choice regarding abortion,[18] in support of affirmative action, and in favor of "reasonable" gun control"
ewwwwww
aspiringconstitutionalist
11-02-2007, 05:56 AM
'Druther it be Paul/Sanford for me.
manny
11-02-2007, 06:12 AM
Can anyone tell me what's the tradition when it comes to naming a presidential candidates team? I mean it sounds like there are a fair few popular options for RP ... without wanting to sound greedy... couldn't he use more than one? :p From what I understand a governor could be useful in getting votes in that state so Mark Sanford would be a good choice. I agree on what everyone says about Sarah Palin (in other words, yes I'm infatuated with her too) ... could she not have a different but prominent role? What other roles - apart from VP - get announced early? And from the articles I've read I think having Napolitano in as senior legal position as possible would be great. All these guys have their fans... we need them to then vote for RP!
Mortikhi
11-02-2007, 06:35 AM
The dream ticket would be Ron Paul and me as VP.
Do you have to be 35 to be VP? I will barely make it :)
ButchHowdy
11-02-2007, 07:12 AM
1.) Sanford is damaged goods by hanging out with Buffoon Jeb Bush last week.
2.) Napolitano is an EX-Lawyer and supports the Murdo-neoconic agenda.
Kucinich would be a better choice than these two . . .
Ron needs to pick someone LIKE-MINDED, someone with a clear head who saw through the Iraqi subterfuge like James Duncan, TN, or possibly Chuck Hagel
I agree with Butch that Sanford is damaged goods. If all the other neocon candidates are vying for him to become VP, that alone should be a red flag to us.
I'm hoping he asks Sarah Palin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin)to be his VP. She's strong, competent and resourceful. She also holds the record of having the highest approval ratings of any governor in the country for the last six years or so. I think she could pull some female voters away from Hillary.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/snowowl/sabine5.jpg?t=1194010759
http://www.foxnews.com/images/299305/0_61_palin_sarah.jpg
ButchHowdy
11-02-2007, 07:50 AM
[QUOTE=Hope;340728]I agree with Butch that Sanford is damaged goods. If all the other neocon candidates are vying for him to become VP, that alone should be a red flag to us.
I'm hoping he asks Sarah Palin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin)to be his VP. She's strong, competent and resourceful. She also holds the record of having the highest approval ratings of any governor in the country for the last six years or so. I think she could pull some female voters away from Hillary.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/snowowl/sabine5.jpg?t=1194010759
She's a hottie too!
She's a hottie too!
Haha, that too. :P
TheDuke
11-02-2007, 08:21 AM
Ron Paul/Michael Edward Reagan
"A moderate Republican, Powell is well known for his willingness to support liberal or centrist causes. He is pro-choice regarding abortion,[18] in support of affirmative action, and in favor of "reasonable" gun control"
ewwwwww
I think that's why people...or rather, the media...have such a fondness for him.
Syren123
11-02-2007, 08:59 AM
2.) Napolitano is an EX-Lawyer and supports the Murdo-neoconic agenda.
Kucinich would be a better choice than these two . . .
Huh? We're talking about ANDREW Napolitano, not Janet (AZ Gov) or Jeanette (Concrete Blonde) Napolitano.
Kucinich is a socialist.
austin356
11-02-2007, 09:27 AM
Huh? We're talking about ANDREW Napolitano, not Janet (AZ Gov) or Jeanette (Concrete Blonde) Napolitano..
I am also saying ?Huh??
Andrew Nap is always BLASTING the administration and its policies if you get him out of has straight jacket at Faux news. Ask him who the worst president in the last 50 years was. I am sure he would say Bush.
ButchHowdy
11-02-2007, 10:39 AM
Our own RPF Bretheren in the 10/23 post: "Cannot Believe My Ears"
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=28009&highlight=napolitano
clearly heard the 'Judge' spouting the 'agenda'
spivey378
11-02-2007, 10:46 AM
agreed
Matt Collins
11-02-2007, 11:18 AM
She's a hottie too!She could get free exams from the Doc too! How convenient. If only they would cover it on C-SPAN!:D
Matt Collins
11-02-2007, 11:19 AM
Be sure to see these two other threads on The Judge:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=28497
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=30752
Imagine him in the debates!
RP4ME
11-02-2007, 11:22 AM
"A moderate Republican, Powell is well known for his willingness to support liberal or centrist causes. He is pro-choice regarding abortion,[18] in support of affirmative action, and in favor of "reasonable" gun control"
ewwwwww
plus he is CFR
Andrew76
11-02-2007, 11:30 AM
And I think no one listened to me... :(
Boo hoo. Are you really going to try and pretend that you have a right to be bummed out that we're not doing what you tell us to do?
Hey, hear that everyone? Foofighter said stop talking about this!! Why are you still writing!! He said STOP!!
Psh.... ;)
Anyway.... I think it's safe to say that I'd be hard pressed to decide wether it would be best for Napolitano to be VP or attorney general. In both positions he'd be so good for so many reasons. Not to mention that as VP, we wouldn't have to worry about introducing yet another new person to the American public, and all the nonsense that comes with it.
JMann
11-02-2007, 12:10 PM
Napolitano isn't qualified to be President. I like the guy and think he would make a great Supreme Court nominee or AG but in my view you want to find the most qualified person available and someone that hasn't run for office before shouldn't be on the ticket. You don't start you elective office career by running for the US Presidency or VP. You can do it but your chance for success are very limited.
Son of Detroit
11-06-2007, 04:21 PM
How is it possible to get Palin if she will still be Governor in 08?
Matt Collins
12-02-2007, 06:26 PM
Supreme Court for sure. Until then either AG or as a high level federal appellate court.
ValidusCustodiae
12-02-2007, 06:43 PM
Paul-Buchanan '08!
Adamsa
12-02-2007, 06:44 PM
Attorney General Napolitano?
seapilot
12-02-2007, 07:05 PM
How is it possible to get Palin if she will still be Governor in 08?
She has some serious work to do still on the Gas Pipline that is in the works up here. She is a great governor and doesnt pander to special interests at all.
The Lt. Governor Parnell has already endorsed Romney but dont know where she stands. If you think she is pretty you should see her daughters.
trispear
12-02-2007, 07:06 PM
How is it possible to get Palin if she will still be Governor in 08?She can quite her post after elections and the Lt. Governor can take her place -- or special elections can be held -- depending on the rules of her state.
And VP would be a nice post for her -- in line with becoming President in 8 years^_^
Adamsa
12-02-2007, 07:08 PM
And VP would be a nice post for her -- in line with becoming President in 8 years^_^
I'd much prefer her as the first woman president than the wife of a previous one. :|
Richie
12-02-2007, 07:13 PM
Paul-Buchanan '08!
+1
Proemio
12-02-2007, 07:34 PM
... Picking a Veep now is only a distraction form getting the Ticket to begin with.
Yes - a recurring and particularly pathetic one at that...
Selecting a VP is just another decision Ron Paul will make completely on his very own; on priciple and on vastly superior peronal knowledge about the person of choice than any of us will ever possess. As usual, there will be no 'clever' triangulations involved - guaranteed, unless one thinks he is a phony. Anyone?
It's just another fool's errand - with appologies to potential hurt feelings and such...
Adamsa
12-02-2007, 07:36 PM
It's just another fool's errand - with appologies to potential hurt feelings and such...
MY HEART, YOU BROEK IT.
Proemio
12-02-2007, 07:43 PM
MY HEART, YOU BROEK IT.
This could get me in real trouble with the AMA, FDA and UN:
Take two Aspirins and vote Ron Paul - his presidency will mend anyone with a heart!
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