View Full Version : Iowa GOP to announce “special guest” at Ames debate
Chieppa1
08-08-2011, 11:12 AM
Iowa GOP Chairman Matt Strawn will hold a media availability following the meeting of the Ames Rotary at 1pm [CT] today to announce an special guest attending the Iowa GOP/Fox News Debate on Thursday, August 11. Chairman Strawn will also give an overview of the week’s events including Thursday’s debate and Saturday’s Straw Poll. Interested parties should email cmills@iowagop.org.
Its going to be fucking Rick Perry. :mad:
Source (http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/08/iowa-gop-to-announce-special-guest-at-ames-debate/)
Romulus
08-08-2011, 11:14 AM
Lookout.. they're getting desperate...
LibertyEagle
08-08-2011, 11:15 AM
Yeah, probably will be. My understanding is that this is the first year they have allowed write-ins, too. It's all a big Hollywood production for Perry.
Disgusting.
sorianofan
08-08-2011, 11:16 AM
Bilderberg has some real power. They are catapulting this guy. Mark Sanford speaks out about the meeting, and he gets outted for being a perv. Scary stuff.
libertybrewcity
08-08-2011, 11:16 AM
Perrysite
truthdivides
08-08-2011, 11:16 AM
Brace yourself. Be prepared to deal with Perry getting 40% of the debate time to himself, Romney will get 30%, Bachmann 20%, and the final 10% split between Pawlenty and Santorum. They will treat Ron like a decoration.
acptulsa
08-08-2011, 11:18 AM
A special guest at a presidential debate.
This is getting asinine.
eleganz
08-08-2011, 11:20 AM
This is retarded, if he wants to debate, he better announce his intentions to RUN. It is as if he is some sort of exception...
wgadget
08-08-2011, 11:20 AM
Brace yourself. Be prepared to deal with Perry getting 40% of the debate time to himself, Romney will get 30%, Bachmann 20%, and the final 10% split between Pawlenty and Santorum. They will treat Ron like a decoration.
Is Perry in the debate???? WTF?
wgadget
08-08-2011, 11:21 AM
This is retarded, if he wants to debate, he better announce his intentions to RUN. It is as if he is some sort of exception...
Well...COME TO THINK OF IT, they let Bachmann into the last debate...Oh, shit.
erowe1
08-08-2011, 11:23 AM
For now I think this is good.
Ron Paul beating Bachmann at Ames would be a blow to her campaign. But she'd still be in it. Rick Perry getting in the race would take her down. And it would make Perry her nemesis, not Paul.
Then it will be a three-way race between Perry, Romney, and Paul. Perry and Romney will beat each other up for a few months. And then, a week before Ames, Perry's marital infidelities will become front page news. And the race will be a classic battle between a thoroughbred establishment Republican and the ultimate tea party candidate, in an election when all the energy will be for the tea party candidate.
Romulus
08-08-2011, 11:24 AM
It's pissing me off the more I think about it...
Anything to divert the nations attention... I think Paul will be well prepared for it though, assuming he gets time to talk.
pauliticalfan
08-08-2011, 11:25 AM
Watch Perry pull a Bachmann and announce he's running during the debate.
Have no clue how this will affect us.
tsai3904
08-08-2011, 11:26 AM
Criteria for participation in debate:
Candidates must satisfy the following by 4 p.m. CDT on Tuesday, August 9, 2011
1. Registered with the Federal Elections Commission as a presidential exploratory committee or presidential campaign.
2. Meet all U.S. Constitutional requirements.
3. Garnered at least an average of one percent in five national polls based on most recent polling leading up to the registration day.
Seems like Perry will form an exploratory committee by tomorrow or the debate sponsors will change their own rules for him.
wgadget
08-08-2011, 11:26 AM
It's pissing me off the more I think about it...
Anything to divert the nations attention... I think Paul will be well prepared for it though.
Well, on the bright side, a lot of people that follow elections saw the pandering he did just last weekend to evangelicals. I heard a soundbite of Perry praying on the radio, and it really sounded like a Saturday Night Live skit.
Also, we have that little Ron Paul loyalty factoid on our side.
AND, he would just take votes away from Pawlenty and Bachmann, imo.
georgiaboy
08-08-2011, 11:26 AM
why don't they just get past the 'debate' title and call it what it's become, a "Pageant of the GOP Darlings".
Ugh.
Mr. Wead better be preparing our guy to receive every curve ball thrown at him and turn them into home runs.
Romulus
08-08-2011, 11:27 AM
Well, on the bright side, a lot of people that follow elections saw the pandering he did just last weekend to evangelicals. I heard a soundbite of Perry praying on the radio, and it really sounded like a Saturday Night Live skit.
I think it'll backfire... he comes off completely phony... it's another Trump stunt that will chip away at Bachmann... it will hurt us in the beginning, but we will only keep rising throughout all of this.
Romulus
08-08-2011, 11:27 AM
why don't they just get past the 'debate' title and call it what it's become, a "Pageant of the GOP Darlings".
Ugh.
Mr. Wead better be preparing our guy to receive every curve ball thrown at him and turn them into home runs.
I have total confidence in Wead.
sailingaway
08-08-2011, 11:28 AM
Perry or Huckabee, who is planning at being at Ames for Fox.
Perry 'is announcing' per various headlines (the stories aren't quite that definite) I think he saw Ron surging, and figured capping Ron doing well in the straw poll by announcing himself might not do. He wants to head off the surge. I wonder if he's already too late? I mean, I actually assume he'll get a huge bump until people figure out who he is, and that should last through the straw poll.
Not sure Ron will be the one most hurt, though. But I hope Ron is looking out for nasty questions from Fox. Along the lines of the spin they've been pushing of what he got in 2008 in votes BEFORE his predictions came true, and their favorite pretence that he is merely king of the straw polls. Obviously, Reagan won on the 3rd try, and Ron's poll numbers show him surging.
I believe it is a requirement of the debate that participants have a campaign or exploratory committee, isn't it?
harikaried
08-08-2011, 11:30 AM
If it is indeed another candidate, the debate will have to give more time to that person than what it would have if that person wasn't there. But in terms of the straw poll, Ron Paul is likely to benefit the most as his followers are least likely to change their vote. Although I'm not sure how the media will play that down. "Ron Paul only won because X announced and drew votes away from Y. X only had one day to gather votes and did so well but couldn't have been expected to beat Ron Paul. But if you combine the votes for X and Y, they're the clear leaders!"
CaptUSA
08-08-2011, 11:31 AM
Did you notice it says "an" special guest?
I would say that there was originally another word there and they changed it to "special guest" right before sending the e-mail.
goRPaul
08-08-2011, 11:31 AM
I doubt it's Perry. I trust that most people get disgusted when someone gets extra special treatment.
I think the special guest could very well be Nancy Reagan.
KingRobbStark
08-08-2011, 11:33 AM
I knew they were going to do something.
erowe1
08-08-2011, 11:34 AM
Did you notice it says "an" special guest?
I would say that there was originally another word there and they changed it to "special guest" right before sending the e-mail.
Good catch. I'm sure you're right.
"extra special"?
"exciting"?
"anticipated"?
Romulus
08-08-2011, 11:35 AM
Huckabee hosting Perry... its going to be a big show... not sure if people will bite though... its a evangelical lovefest...
wgadget
08-08-2011, 11:35 AM
Did you notice it says "an" special guest?
I would say that there was originally another word there and they changed it to "special guest" right before sending the e-mail.
"Unnnounced"? "Undesireable"? "Unwanted"?
CaptUSA
08-08-2011, 11:35 AM
Maybe "uninvited"?!
CaptUSA
08-08-2011, 11:36 AM
Sadly, I think you may be right with "unannounced".
Jackie Treehorn
08-08-2011, 11:36 AM
Not looking forward to Perry getting half of the questions directed toward him. This debate, much like Perry himself, will be a fu*king sideshow.
libertybrewcity
08-08-2011, 11:37 AM
It could be Thaddeus. he sounds pretty special
Billay
08-08-2011, 11:38 AM
Sarah Palin.
wgadget
08-08-2011, 11:38 AM
I wonder if he'll get any questions about why he attended the Bilderberg meeting in 2007? THAT would make it worth watching.
garyallen59
08-08-2011, 11:38 AM
It says attending, not participating, so lets not jump to conclusions.
LibertyEagle
08-08-2011, 11:39 AM
It says attending, not participating, so lets not jump to conclusions.
Doesn't matter. They are allowing write-in votes for the first time, this year.
Diurdi
08-08-2011, 11:39 AM
Maybe Sarah Palin doing some speaking? Dunno lol.
Billay
08-08-2011, 11:40 AM
Doesn't matter. They are allowing write-in votes for the first time, this year.
Good gonna be harder to spin Ron's victory.
specsaregood
08-08-2011, 11:42 AM
I doubt it's Perry. I trust that most people get disgusted when someone gets extra special treatment.
I think the special guest could very well be Nancy Reagan.
My thoughts as well. Nancy or maybe even Bush or Cheney.
sailingaway
08-08-2011, 11:51 AM
Sarah Palin.
That is another possibility, but not a slam dunk preventative measure unless she endorses someone....
sailingaway
08-08-2011, 11:52 AM
My thoughts as well. Nancy or maybe even Bush or Cheney.
Hoping we'll boo and turn everyone against us?
I sure hope that doesn't happen.
falconplayer11
08-08-2011, 11:55 AM
Whether it is Perry or Palin, it is good for Paul.
According to today's Rasmussen poll:
Overall, just 28% of potential Iowa Caucus participants are absolutely certain of how they will vote, while the rest could change their mind. Among those who are certain of their vote, Ron Paul is on top at 27%.
Just 49% of Paul's supporters would vote for the Republican nominee if their man does not win the nomination. That's well below the total for other candidates.
Paul has strong, loyal support. Perry/Palin will only add another candidate to the mix to steal votes from Romney, Bachmann, and Pawlenty. Elections are a zero-sum game...don't forget that. Paul's support is loyal (if it's not, I'd rather not have it anyways). Adding Perry is exactly what we should want. He won't emerge as the front-runner, either. He will spike at the beginning, and then slowly creep back down the polls after a few weeks like everyone else. Between Romney, Bachmann, Perry, and Pawlenty, the vote is split BIG TIME. Perry may steal a little from Paul, but not too much.
specsaregood
08-08-2011, 11:58 AM
Hoping we'll boo and turn everyone against us?
I sure hope that doesn't happen.
Yeah, that thought crossed my mind as well, if they drag rummy onto stage you'll know that was the plan.
Chieppa1
08-08-2011, 11:58 AM
First time ever I'm rooting for Sarah Palin.
RonPaul101.com
08-08-2011, 11:59 AM
Let's just hope its Bob Dole or such...
PastaRocket848
08-08-2011, 12:01 PM
I wonder if he'll get any questions about why he attended the Bilderberg meeting in 2007? THAT would make it worth watching.
i don't think fox is trying to appeal to the tin-foil hat crowd
Inkblots
08-08-2011, 12:04 PM
Isn't it good for Perry to appear there? It means he'll get more write-in votes in the straw poll, which will presumably hurt Bachmann to Paul's advantage.
Inkblots
08-08-2011, 12:05 PM
Whether it is Perry or Palin, it is good for Paul.
According to today's Rasmussen poll:
Overall, just 28% of potential Iowa Caucus participants are absolutely certain of how they will vote, while the rest could change their mind. Among those who are certain of their vote, Ron Paul is on top at 27%.
Just 49% of Paul's supporters would vote for the Republican nominee if their man does not win the nomination. That's well below the total for other candidates.
Paul has strong, loyal support. Perry/Palin will only add another candidate to the mix to steal votes from Romney, Bachmann, and Pawlenty. Elections are a zero-sum game...don't forget that. Paul's support is loyal (if it's not, I'd rather not have it anyways). Adding Perry is exactly what we should want. He won't emerge as the front-runner, either. He will spike at the beginning, and then slowly creep back down the polls after a few weeks like everyone else. Between Romney, Bachmann, Perry, and Pawlenty, the vote is split BIG TIME. Perry may steal a little from Paul, but not too much.
^This.
musicmax
08-08-2011, 12:07 PM
Mr. Wead better be preparing our guy to receive every curve ball thrown at him and turn them into home runs.
I would love to hear RP react to Perry's inclusion in the debate thusly:
"I'm one of Governor Perry's constituents, and lemme tell ya, he only thinks he can walk on water."
sailingaway
08-08-2011, 12:09 PM
i don't think fox is trying to appeal to the tin-foil hat crowd
Tin foil hat, nothing. He's pretending to be this 'secessionist' populist Texan, full of tenth amendment, nevermind subscribing to international integration through the UN the World Bank and WTO etc. And you don't have to think the Bilderburgers are signed-in-blood conspirators consciously aiming at world domination to know it is the antithesis of what he is pretending to be.
People who like Ron Paul are not into 'one world' stuff, as a rule. It is a case of competing ideologies, not conspiracies. I believe the individual is best represented at the most local possible level where he can actually impact policy, not in distant centralized organizations where you need wealth and connections to have a seat at the table. I think diversity of government shows that individuals are appropriately impacting their local governments with their local preferences, and that those shouldn't be overturned for the cookie cutter convenience of big business and centralized government standardization. There is nothing 'conspiracy' about it.
Perry is not on my side.
brushfire
08-08-2011, 12:10 PM
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/102010/1285930892_kid-sticks-head-in-toilet-bowl.gif
Brown Sapper
08-08-2011, 12:12 PM
Good, Perry isn't good in debates. Thats when Medina started taking off when she tore him up in the gov's race.
Feeding the Abscess
08-08-2011, 12:18 PM
I have total confidence in Wead.
Wead isn't prepping Ron for debate.
Also, I'm predicting that Reagan's corpse will be wheeled out in front of the crowd. Talking points will be played over the loudspeakers, and 15% of the electorate will write him in for the straw poll.
wgadget
08-08-2011, 12:19 PM
I would love to hear RP react to Perry's inclusion in the debate thusly:
"I'm one of Governor Perry's constituents, and lemme tell ya, he only thinks he can walk on water."
LOL...Love it.
speciallyblend
08-08-2011, 12:20 PM
Al Gore?
wgadget
08-08-2011, 12:21 PM
Tin foil hat, nothing. He's pretending to be this 'secessionist' populist Texan, full of tenth amendment, nevermind subscribing to international integration through the UN the World Bank and WTO etc. And you don't have to think the Bilderburgers are signed-in-blood conspirators consciously aiming at world domination to know it is the antithesis of what he is pretending to be.
People who like Ron Paul are not into 'one world' stuff, as a rule. It is a case of competing ideologies, not conspiracies. I believe the individual is best represented at the most local possible level where he can actually impact policy, not in distant centralized organizations where you need wealth and connections to have a seat at the table. I think diversity of government shows that individuals are appropriately impacting their local governments with their local preferences, and that those shouldn't be overturned for the cookie cutter convenience of big business and centralized government standardization. There is nothing 'conspiracy' about it.
Perry is not on my side.
+5
In a word, Perry is a globalist who hangs out with other globalists. And he admitted to approving of NAFTA. It's on tape.
Johncjackson
08-08-2011, 12:25 PM
Alright. So who is it?
Romulus
08-08-2011, 12:27 PM
Alright. So who is it?
W Bush?
JamesButabi
08-08-2011, 12:44 PM
The only reason I would even care if someone else attends the debate is Ron Paul would get less speaking time presumably. The more people hear Ron the better.
PastaRocket848
08-08-2011, 12:51 PM
maybe thomas jefferson has risen from the dead and come to endorse ron.
Sola_Fide
08-08-2011, 12:54 PM
maybe thomas jefferson has risen from the dead and come to endorse ron.
TJ would be consigned to a looney bin by tptb if he were alive today.
Freedom of Speech
08-08-2011, 12:57 PM
Ron Paul just needs to knock it out of the park at the debate and get the media to talk about him and not the surprise guest. I know it'll be hard with the current brands of MSM, but he needs a Guiliani or Romney debate moment for those of you who remember those moments that got the media talking about them.
I would really like to see him repeat over and over and over the fact that he predicted all the problems that are happening right now and the economic crisis back in 2008. It'll complement the RevPAC ads that are repeating the "Ron Paul predicted the economic crisis" message. Not only at the debates, but I'd like to see him start doing it in every interview he has this week.
I know Ron Paul is a humble man and doesn't toot his own horn, but I'd like to see him point out how right he was and how wrong people on the stage were, including certain individuals that contributed to the problems.
harikaried
08-08-2011, 01:00 PM
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/08/08/national-gop-chairman-to-attend-thursdays-presidential-debate-in-iowa
National GOP chairman to attend Thursday’s presidential debate in Iowa
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus will attend Thursday’s Iowa GOP/Fox News Debate in Ames,Iowa officials announced today.
Lord Xar
08-08-2011, 01:06 PM
I think Ron needs to stop being so humble and he needs to shut Perry down immediately..
He needs to bring up NAFTA, emminent domain stuff, forced vaccination info, state funds for illegal immigrants etc...
And that will be that.. if everyone pussy foots around Perry, it will be stupid.
TomtheTinker
08-08-2011, 01:15 PM
^^^^^^
PastaRocket848
08-08-2011, 01:15 PM
of all those... i'd say "state funds for illegal immigrants" is the only one i'd touch with a ten foot pole. everything else just sounds fringe.
musicmax
08-08-2011, 01:21 PM
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/08/08/national-gop-chairman-to-attend-thursdays-presidential-debate-in-iowa
National GOP chairman to attend Thursday’s presidential debate in Iowa
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus will attend Thursday’s Iowa GOP/Fox News Debate in Ames,Iowa officials announced today.
Yippie. Figured the Iowa GOP wasn't stupid enough to diss the declared candidates (esp. MB & TP) by giving Reverend Rick a hall pass.
Still say RP will declare on the 13th to steal all the thunder from Ames.
musicmax
08-08-2011, 01:30 PM
of all those... i'd say "state funds for illegal immigrants" is the only one i'd touch with a ten foot pole. everything else just sounds fringe.
A gynecologist bringing up Perry's executive order mandating Gardasil injections, which would have benefited his contributor Merck, is "fringe"?
wgadget
08-08-2011, 01:37 PM
Yippie. Figured the Iowa GOP wasn't stupid enough to diss the declared candidates (esp. MB & TP) by giving Reverend Rick a hall pass.
Still say RP will declare on the 13th to steal all the thunder from Ames.
See drudge report. You're spot on.
sailingaway
08-08-2011, 01:40 PM
Reince Priebus?
Man, who cares?
sailingaway
08-08-2011, 01:41 PM
of all those... i'd say "state funds for illegal immigrants" is the only one i'd touch with a ten foot pole. everything else just sounds fringe.
You seem very defensive on Perry's behalf.
He is what he is. Pointing it out isn't fringe. He is pretending to be the OPPOSITE of what he is, and hypocrisy is an issue regardless of whether the underlying point is one you agree with.
SilentBull
08-08-2011, 02:02 PM
Doesn't this help us though? Perry doesn't really take votes away from us. The more people that write in his name, the better, no?
musicmax
08-08-2011, 02:38 PM
Doesn't this help us though? Perry doesn't really take votes away from us. The more people that write in his name, the better, no?
Short-term hurt (his announcement will smother coverage of Ames); long-term help. He will be another flavor-of-the-month and dilute the strength of MB/T-Paw/Herm/Mitt.
Does Santorum drop out and endorse Perry after Ames to consolidate the evangelical vote? Does Cain drop out and simply say he'll support the nominee (he doesn't strike me as an endorser)? Is there anyone who might drop out soon who would endorse Ron? Maybe Newt?
Further down the road if Bachmann starts to fade and the race is down to Paul/Perry/Romney, don't be surprised if MB looks at crap like this and says "to hell with the establishment, I'm endorsing Ron Paul":
http://brutishandshort.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/NEWSWEEK-COVER.-Holy-Mike-Huckabee-1.jpghttp://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/6Opxm2jOicsnTdGim2oZ1g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thecutline/michele-bachmann-newsweek.jpg
Romulus
08-08-2011, 02:53 PM
Short-term hurt (his announcement will smother coverage of Ames); long-term help. He will be another flavor-of-the-month and dilute the strength of MB/T-Paw/Herm/Mitt.
Does Santorum drop out and endorse Perry after Ames to consolidate the evangelical vote? Does Cain drop out and simply say he'll support the nominee (he doesn't strike me as an endorser)? Is there anyone who might drop out soon who would endorse Ron? Maybe Newt?
Further down the road if Bachmann starts to fade and the race is down to Paul/Perry/Romney, don't be surprised if MB looks at crap like this and says "to hell with the establishment, I'm endorsing Ron Paul":
she is the establishment
acptulsa
08-08-2011, 02:56 PM
Ron Paul just needs to knock it out of the park at the debate and get the media to talk about him and not the surprise guest
This. The surprise guest I'm looking forward to seeing won't be on the stage, but will make his presence felt nonetheless--Doug Wead.
brushfire
08-08-2011, 02:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq4wpfDiRso
Reggie Brown?
Romulus
08-08-2011, 03:01 PM
This. The surprise guest I'm looking forward to seeing won't be on the stage, but will make his presence felt nonetheless--Doug Wead.
He never fails to deliver... The throw him fastballs and he hits homeruns...
that would make a great YouTube... show them trying set him up then cut to Ron Paul hitting a homerun in the ball game after giving his answer.
Agorism
08-08-2011, 03:02 PM
Could be Huck.
falconplayer11
08-08-2011, 03:04 PM
According to Townhall, the special guest is Reince Priebus, GOP chairman.
Lame.
Link: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2011/08/08/earthquake_perry_to_announce_presidential_bid_on_s aturday
PastaRocket848
08-08-2011, 03:06 PM
that pic of Bachmann on Newsweek looks creepy. could they have picked a worse picture? she looks like a deer in headlights.
doctor jones
08-08-2011, 03:06 PM
I have total confidence in Wead.
+1,000,000,000
Romulus
08-08-2011, 03:11 PM
that pic of Bachmann on Newsweek looks creepy. could they have picked a worse picture? she looks like a deer in headlights.
Done by design...
KramerDSP
08-08-2011, 03:14 PM
This. The surprise guest I'm looking forward to seeing won't be on the stage, but will make his presence felt nonetheless--Doug Wead.
I've seen at least one poster around here insist Doug Wead has no role whatsoever with any prepping. Wead prepped Bush 41 for the debates, and Jack Hunter is another good guy to bounce off attack questions at, so I hope Ron is willing to at least discuss debate strategy with them, if not outright prep with them.
PastaRocket848
08-08-2011, 03:18 PM
i wouldn't imagine he's paying them for nothing....
Restore-America-NOW
08-08-2011, 03:21 PM
How much do you wanna bet that last minute they're going to add Perry to the ballot at Ames. grrr.....
muzzled dogg
08-08-2011, 03:26 PM
perry is in SC that day http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60884.html
sailingaway
08-08-2011, 03:33 PM
perry is going to ANNOUNCE that day in SC and pretend he's important enough to invalidate the Ames straw poll results....
Oversized ego is putting it mildly.....
pauliticalfan
08-08-2011, 03:39 PM
What a creep. The media's really gonna let one guy's announcement trump an entire straw poll that candidates have been campaigning for for months? Pathetic.
LibertyEagle
08-08-2011, 03:42 PM
Wead isn't prepping Ron for debate.
Says who?
John of Des Moines
08-08-2011, 03:52 PM
Be optimistic - special guest at the Debate: Rand Paul.
Romulus
08-08-2011, 03:52 PM
Says who?
That's what I'm saying...
wgadget
08-08-2011, 03:53 PM
I think Ron needs to stop being so humble and he needs to shut Perry down immediately..
He needs to bring up NAFTA, emminent domain stuff, forced vaccination info, state funds for illegal immigrants etc...
And that will be that.. if everyone pussy foots around Perry, it will be stupid.
He also needs to bring up Texas' $27 billion deficit (as of January 2011), which has subsequently been reduced by gutting education and using Federal funds meant for emergencies. The question I have about the budget is: Wasn't Bilderberg Perry governor for the last TEN YEARS? What took him so long to balance it? Any chance the budget reduction was a strictly political move just so Perry can tout his marvelous "Texas economy"? Cuz this time it really IS the economy stupid.
Feeding the Abscess
08-08-2011, 04:04 PM
Says who?
I believe this was mentioned by RonPaulVolunteer, from conversations he's had with Wead.
specsaregood
08-08-2011, 04:18 PM
I believe this was mentioned by RonPaulVolunteer, from conversations he's had with Wead.
Even if they working together to "prep", it doesn't seem like it offers any benefit by announcing it or telling people its happening.
Danke
08-08-2011, 04:26 PM
"Unnnounced"? "Undesireable"? "Unwanted"?
Sadly, I think you may be right with "unannounced".
And they left out "needs" after special too.
Johncjackson
08-08-2011, 08:29 PM
of all those... i'd say "state funds for illegal immigrants" is the only one i'd touch with a ten foot pole. everything else just sounds fringe.
I don't think eminent domain is "fringe." Forced vaccinations shouldn't be, but I think it is taken that way. In any decent world those infringements on liberty certainly wouldn't be any more fringe than scapegoating immigrants.
realtonygoodwin
08-08-2011, 09:15 PM
As a Texas voter, I will tell you that the Gardasil thing is the thing that hurts Perry the most among average voters.
Billay
08-09-2011, 01:33 AM
If Ron Paul is unelectable how the hell is Perry? The guy openly talked about succession. That isn't going to play well with indies.
Tarzan
08-09-2011, 01:55 AM
Do we know the identity of this 'special guest' yet?
If its Perry I have an idea that is best not made public.
pissed in the Heart of Texas
rockandrollsouls
08-09-2011, 02:28 AM
Bilderberg will be a difficult beast to defeat, but Ron can't be shy about this. Our country's future is directly affected by him being cutthroat on issues like this....
He also needs to bring up Texas' $27 billion deficit (as of January 2011), which has subsequently been reduced by gutting education and using Federal funds meant for emergencies. The question I have about the budget is: Wasn't Bilderberg Perry governor for the last TEN YEARS? What took him so long to balance it? Any chance the budget reduction was a strictly political move just so Perry can tout his marvelous "Texas economy"? Cuz this time it really IS the economy stupid.
rockandrollsouls
08-09-2011, 02:29 AM
Because he has a fairytale, hollywood success story Bilderberg is pimping.
MelissaCato
08-09-2011, 04:22 AM
Brace yourself. Be prepared to deal with Perry getting 40% of the debate time to himself, Romney will get 30%, Bachmann 20%, and the final 10% split between Pawlenty and Santorum. They will treat Ron like a decoration.
I think this would be really stupid to do because the whole world is watching.
Revolution9
08-09-2011, 07:05 AM
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/6Opxm2jOicsnTdGim2oZ1g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thecutline/michele-bachmann-newsweek.jpg
My ghawd! This bimbot looks grazed, dazed and phased with that deer in the headlines gaze..
Rev9
John of Des Moines
08-09-2011, 03:23 PM
From the Des Moines Register: Iowa Politics Insider: RNC chairman to be at debate in Ames (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20110809/NEWS09/108090310/Iowa-Politics-Insider-RNC-chairman-to-be-at-debate-in-Ames)
Tarzan
08-09-2011, 05:35 PM
How bout we put on Romney, or Santorum, or Cain shirts and hold these signs between Perry and the cameras:
http://gilbert-american.com/ronpaul/perry.png
Lisle16
08-09-2011, 05:56 PM
How bout we put on Romney, or Santorum, or Cain shirts and hold these signs between Perry and the cameras:
http://gilbert-american.com/ronpaul/perry.png
So basically, screwing over four of Ron's opponents? :D
Agorism
08-09-2011, 06:03 PM
What day is the debate again?
rbohlig
08-09-2011, 06:10 PM
What day is the debate again?
http://tinyurl.com/433lyzr
:p
willwash
08-09-2011, 06:21 PM
I'm having flashbacks to Fred Thompson in 2007. Perry is meaningless. None of our supporters will defect, and Perry will just further split up the neocons. This is a good thing.
Tarzan
08-09-2011, 06:23 PM
:D
So basically, screwing over four of Ron's opponents? :D
Anything but a RP shirt.
JTWilliams
08-10-2011, 11:14 PM
Sarah Palin as well. But God, I can't stand Rick Perry.
It's so true, he comes off as an effeminate, metrosexual cheerleader (which he was) mixed with the f'n Marlboro man. But he'll definately dilute the establishment vote! A couple more candidates an RP will win by default!
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