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Matt Collins
06-12-2007, 07:21 PM
More rebellion against the Real ID act. New Hampshire and Oklahoma have joined Montana and Washington state in passing statutes refuting the ID act's guidelines. "However, these actions could eventually lead to drivers licenses issued in these states to not be accepted as official identification when boarding airplanes or accessing federal buildings. In addition to these four states, members of the Idaho legislature intentionally left out money in the budget to comply with the Act."

Article here:
http://www.lawbean.com/2007/06/11/states-rebel-against-real-id-act/

maggiebott
06-12-2007, 07:26 PM
You can still board a plane with a passport and just say you don't drive. But here's the real kicker...just heard a few days ago on the news that you don't need a passport to fly to cancun and other islands due to the backup of passports that need processing.

I started to wonder if there are people making a mad dash for their passports to avoid this bullshit i.d. card. Passports last ten years and mine is expired.

xcalybur
06-12-2007, 07:32 PM
My wife just came back from Africa. The problem with the passports is that they are too complicated to make. When we first applied for it they said it would take 6-10 weeks. It took 17 weeks. I microwaved the passport as soon as we got it in the mail. Those bastards.

BW4Paul
06-12-2007, 07:34 PM
I microwaved the passport as soon as we got it in the mail. Those bastards.
Does this kill an RFID chip? If yes, how long should something be microwaved?

AlexAmore
06-12-2007, 08:14 PM
I was thinking about how those RFIDs could be destroyed or rendered useless. Microwave is one idea I haven't thought of. I was wondering if it being enclosed in a powerful magnet box would render the signal useless.

X_805
06-12-2007, 08:23 PM
Thank God Oklahoma is taking a stand against this.

Matt Collins
06-12-2007, 08:38 PM
You can still board a plane with a passport and just say you don't drive. You don't even have to do that. Any government issued legal ID will work, and a passport is one of them. And actually, you dont even need an ID to board a plane as long as you are willing to submit to an extra intrusive search. :D




just heard a few days ago on the news that you don't need a passport to fly to cancun and other islands due to the backup of passports that need processing. I don't know if this is true or not but I am an audio engineer and I just had to turn down mixing a music festival for 5 days in the British Virgin Islands because I didn't have a passport.


I started to wonder if there are people making a mad dash for their passports to avoid this bullshit i.d. card. Passports last ten years and mine is expired.If I had the money last year and could've justified the expense I would've gotten my passport prior to the RFID nonsense.

Matt Collins
06-12-2007, 08:40 PM
I was thinking about how those RFIDs could be destroyed or rendered useless. Microwave is one idea I haven't thought of. I was wondering if it being enclosed in a powerful magnet box would render the signal useless.Wrapping your passport in tinfoil can work too.

I dunno about microwaving because any plastic could shrivel and you wouldnt want to catch the pages on fire. That might show signs of tampering with an official document which might be illegal.


Disabling the RFID in the New U.S. Passports?
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/26/1425201


RFID Passports Cloned Without Opening the Package
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/07/1817243

peruvianRP
06-12-2007, 08:43 PM
well, Julie Annie say the ID's will be "Tampered Proof" What a fucking idiot. there is nothing tampered proof.

lucky
06-13-2007, 08:33 AM
I still remember when I was stationed in S. Korea and they had a National ID there. When I would take busses sometimes the bus would be stopped and two soldiers with M-16's would board and everyone had to pull out the ID and hold it up to show they had them.

Of course that could never happen here.

burnice
06-13-2007, 08:51 AM
Thank God Oklahoma is taking a stand against this.

Heh, yeah, you'd never know it from listening to local news though!

Bradley in DC
06-13-2007, 05:56 PM
Happily, I still have an old school passport, but I'm told a hammer works well without burning anthing...

Therion
06-13-2007, 06:01 PM
Wrapping your passport in tinfoil can work too.

I dunno about microwaving because any plastic could shrivel and you wouldnt want to catch the pages on fire. That might show signs of tampering with an official document which might be illegal.


Disabling the RFID in the New U.S. Passports?
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/26/1425201


RFID Passports Cloned Without Opening the Package
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/07/1817243

Microwaves heat up water and fat. Paper would be fine. For the plastic, it depends on the type.