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Anti Federalist
08-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Some interesting numbers and discussion.

I would suggest that the higher misconduct percentages are the result of more people willing to file a complaint against an elected force as opposed to being intimidated by a hired goon squad (city cops) to file a complaint.

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/?p=4510


Police Misconduct NewsFeed Weekend Recap 07-30-11 to 07-31-11

By David, on August 1st, 2011

A few things before I start with this weekend’s report.

Today, Radley Balko asked his readers an interesting question as to whether appointing or electing law enforcement leadership had anything to do with police misconduct. It was an interesting question so I decided to run some analysis on our data and see if there were any correlations between misconduct rates and leadership selection types.

The results were sort of interesting.

First, just looking at overall misconduct per capita rates the results appear to indicate that agencies with elected leaders have less misconduct. Our 2009 Annual Report indicated that the national police misconduct rate was a projected 980.64 officers per 100,000. When we segment that into local Police Departments and Sheriff’s Offices we find that Police departments where leaders are appointed had a misconduct rate of 990.09 per 100,000 while Sheriffs offices where leaders are elected had a misconduct rate of 644.14 per 100,000.

Our 2010 data is somewhat similar in the breakdown. While the overall misconduct rate was 977.98 per 100,000, police departments had a misconduct rate of 1082.04 per 100,000 and sheriff’s agencies had a misconduct rate of 706.74 per 100,000.

So, it would seem that elected officials do better than appointed officials. However, when we look at the number of agencies and leaders implicated in misconduct we see something different.

In 2009 our data indicated that 10.8% of police agencies had officers involved in police misconduct while 7.8% of sheriff’s departments had officers implicated in acts of misconduct. But, in 2010 14% of police agencies had officers implicated in misconduct and 18% of sheriff’s departments had officers implicated in misconduct. Additionally, in 2010, 2.5% of police chiefs were implicated in acts of misconduct while 3.5% of sheriffs were implicated in misconduct. So, when we examine the numbers by agency the picture is a bit more muddled.

However, I personally think that, more importantly than how law enforcement leaders are selected, the laws and policies that govern those leaders and the people they lead are at least as equally important, if not more so. After all, even if you have a good leader in place, what good is it if state laws and local union agreements make it impossible for that leader to hold officers accountable for acts of misconduct?

BamaAla
08-01-2011, 06:47 PM
Our previous Sheriff was accused and found guilty of misconduct a few years back. Guess what happened? He was not reelected and he spent some time in jail. There was no paid vacation or police apologist; he was sent packing and then sent to the jail where is nice office used to be.

I think you're probably right in your suggestion. I don't think we could have gotten the same results with our Sheriff if he was allowed to operate the way appointed people are.

Johncjackson
08-01-2011, 09:12 PM
Are they excluding Arizona? There are at least 2 Arizona sheriffs that regularly make the news for all kinds of horrible anti-American behavior, including that one piece of shit clown who rides around with Steven Seagal and cameras when he's not burning dogs to death, killing immigrants, running over cars with tanks, and playing with pink underwear and old bologna. He's elected- by a lot, I think. Scumbags who are elected seem to feel empowered to do whatever they want, because they are elected by majority vote.

Rael
08-02-2011, 03:29 AM
In NC a constitutional amendment was passed to ban a corrupt sheriff from seeking another term. The amendment bans anyone convicted of a felony being elected sheriff. This was aimed at former Sheriff Gerald Hege.

GunnyFreedom
08-02-2011, 03:47 AM
This is my Sheriff just today:

http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/aug/01/warrant-former-franklin-sheriff-stole-money-provid-ar-1259664/

Been butting heads on this since January. Says he stole $100,000 to provide for his kids.

My bill to allow special elections for vacancies of Sheriff was blocked by the Dems on the County Commission and the Reps in the House.

Rael
08-02-2011, 04:01 AM
This is my Sheriff just today:

http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/aug/01/warrant-former-franklin-sheriff-stole-money-provid-ar-1259664/

Been butting heads on this since January. Says he stole $100,000 to provide for his kids.


My bill to allow special elections for vacancies of Sheriff was blocked by the Dems on the County Commission and the Reps in the House.

What happens now if there is a vacancy?

DamianTV
08-02-2011, 04:58 AM
Police Officers: It's not just a job, its the only method for getting away with Murder! ...Literally!...

brandon
08-02-2011, 05:22 AM
It seems like Sherrifs, being better educated and more socially skilled than regular pigs, would more often dabble in white-collar crime than the blue collar ass-stomping their less intelligent counterparts engage in.

Icymudpuppy
08-02-2011, 06:22 AM
Elected Sheriffs are as corrupt and abusive toward the minority in their county as the majority want them to be. Thus during the black civil rights movement, it was more dangerous for a black facing an elected white supremist sheriff, than an appointed city cop. Thus it is more dangerous for a hispanic to face Joe Arpaio than the Phoenix police dept.

It's all relative.

City cops abuse everybody equally. Sheriff's abuse minorities more, and majorities less.

Pericles
08-02-2011, 09:05 AM
Elected Sheriffs are as corrupt and abusive toward the minority in their county as the majority want them to be. Thus during the black civil rights movement, it was more dangerous for a black facing an elected white supremist sheriff, than an appointed city cop. Thus it is more dangerous for a hispanic to face Joe Arpaio than the Phoenix police dept.

It's all relative.

City cops abuse everybody equally. Sheriff's abuse minorities more, and majorities less.

That ^^^