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reduen
11-01-2007, 12:07 PM
This is a recent email I recieved. Could this be what gets this rat?? ;)

Dear activists, colleagues and friends,
We are beyond thrilled to announce that as a result of your efforts on The REAL Rudy: Radios, Councilman Eric Gioia has committed to "do everything in my power to get answers, to get the truth. There needs to be accountability."

Never say never! We worked, we investigated, we fought, and now we're well on our way to an investigation. Councilman Gioia was so taken with the video and all of our signatures (20,000!) that he sat down and explained to us what is going to happen next:

Watch the video: http://therealrudy.org/radios?utm_source=rgemail

With the councilman's support, we can hold Giuliani accountable for his failure to equip firefighters with radios that could have saved lives on 9/11, and get answers to these questions:

Why was nothing done to improve FDNY radio performance for seven years after a clear need was demonstrated in the 1993 World Trade Center attack?
When new radios were finally ordered, why did the city award a contract to Motorola without a competitive bidding process?
Once Motorola was given the contract, why did its cost jump from $1.4 million to $14 million?
Why were these new radios never field tested?
No, this is not the answer to the distortions of Rudy Giuliani's campaign and administration. This is just the beginning.
But it is a helluva start!

Robert Greenwald
and the Brave New Films team

P.S. You can also watch as we delivered your 20,000 petitions here: http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/17536-nyc-councilman-calls-for-investigation-of-giuliani-s-performance-re-9-11?utm_source=rgemail

P.P.S. Thanks for all the t-shirt designs and ideas you sent in for the Brave New Threads contest. Check them out and vote on your favorites... we'll be making and selling your favorites in a few short weeks. http://store.bravenewfilms.org/threads.php?utm_source=rgemail

ape
11-01-2007, 12:25 PM
I hope this opportunistic SOB falls hard.

Lord Xar
11-01-2007, 12:39 PM
Well, someone should also let them know that Guiliuni's law firm also represent Cintra, the spanish company, that is building the SuperHiway -- which has been associated with the North American Union.

me3
11-01-2007, 12:41 PM
Hot topics?

reduen
11-01-2007, 12:54 PM
Hot topics?


Probably so me3. Sorry..

syborius
11-01-2007, 03:05 PM
Well, someone should also let them know that Guiliuni's law firm also represent Cintra, the spanish company, that is building the SuperHiway -- which has been associated with the North American Union.



I think this cintra association and the north american union is far more damaging. Most people will see the radio thing as maybe no big deal, maybe he didn't know about it, im sure he did, and im sure he will blame others per the usual. Expose him on the Citra!!!! that's where you can get him by his opportunistic nads.

paulitics
11-01-2007, 03:17 PM
I think this cintra association and the north american union is far more damaging. Most people will see the radio thing as maybe no big deal, maybe he didn't know about it, im sure he did, and im sure he will blame others per the usual. Expose him on the Citra!!!! that's where you can get him by his opportunistic nads.

IF there is one hit piece advertising Im in favor of, it is exposing this guy for this treason. I would contribute to any commercial exposing this.

freelance
11-01-2007, 03:43 PM
Hot topics?

WHY? Nothing controversial here.

yongrel
11-01-2007, 03:47 PM
It's in the GOP's best interest that this dirty laundry airs before the primaries. It's bound to come out sooner or later.

Zack
11-01-2007, 03:57 PM
Any news story (short of video of the Ghoul spitting on the graves of 9/11 victims) that has the words 9/11 or Sept. 11th and Giuliani in the same paragraph, will help Giuliani. Heck, it would help him in a general election... in a Republican Primary election... it would help him even more.

This kind of attack is, I think, ineffectual for the same reason trying to nail Bush for reading to schoolkids during the attacks, such as in the movie Fahrenheit 911, was ineffectual. For most people, such displays of incompetence just make them empathize with the people in question even more... because most people don't exactly think of themselves as being master planners and they (either consciously or subconsciously) picture themselves as the ones being accused.

reduen
11-01-2007, 04:02 PM
Any news story (short of video of the Ghoul spitting on the graves of 9/11 victims) that has the words 9/11 or Sept. 11th and Giuliani in the same paragraph, will help Giuliani. Heck, it would help him in a general election... in a Republican Primary election... it would help him even more.

This kind of attack is, I think, ineffectual for the same reason trying to nail Bush for reading to schoolkids during the attacks, such as in the movie Fahrenheit 911, was ineffectual. For most people, such displays of incompetence just make them empathize with the people in question even more... because most people don't exactly think of themselves as being master planners and they (either consciously or subconsciously) picture themselves as the ones being accused.

Here’s to the wisdom of a teenager! lol ;) :rolleyes:

parke
11-01-2007, 04:08 PM
Regardless, the ghoul will not get the nomination. The christian right will not vote for a pro choice, cross dressing, gun grabber. It would mean undoing everything they stand for.

If he does get the nod, it shows how out of touch the GOP is with their base.

Zack
11-01-2007, 04:32 PM
Here’s to the wisdom of a teenager! lol ;) :rolleyes:

I'll be 30 in March. Yes, I do alway base opinions like these on a fundamental understanding of human nature in a societal context, but I believe that a more historical examination would lead one to similar conclusions.

RevolutionSD
11-01-2007, 04:34 PM
Rudy has no chance against Hillary.
They're almost the same candidate so people will overwhelmingly vote democrat because of the Bush republican factor.

JosephTheLibertarian
11-01-2007, 04:34 PM
very good.

TooConservative
11-01-2007, 04:35 PM
TheRealRudy.com has been doing some great work. Very media savvy stuff.

ClayTrainor
11-01-2007, 04:37 PM
Rudy has no chance against Hillary.
They're almost the same candidate so people will overwhelmingly vote democrat because of the Bush republican factor.

ain't that the truth.

Bob Cochran
11-01-2007, 04:38 PM
I hope this opportunistic SOB falls hard.
"Opportunistic SOB"...that's the most polite term I can summon to refer to this creepy man.

Bob Cochran
11-01-2007, 04:40 PM
Regardless, the ghoul will not get the nomination. The christian right will not vote for a pro choice, cross dressing, gun grabber. It would mean undoing everything they stand for.

If he does get the nod, it shows how out of touch the GOP is with their base.
The thing I wonder about is whether the GOP base hasn't lost its way, along with the people who run the party.

Thank you, neocon propaganda machine, especially Faux News, for creating a nation chock-full of Sean Hannity fascist necon chickenhawk bobbleheads.

reaver
11-01-2007, 04:52 PM
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/firefighters_vs_giuliani.html

reduen
11-01-2007, 05:22 PM
I'll be 30 in March. Yes, I do alway base opinions like these on a fundamental understanding of human nature in a societal context, but I believe that a more historical examination would lead one to similar conclusions.

Who said anything about your age? :D

So are you saying that we should just forget about exposing this man for what he really is? That seems illogical to me..

Kregener
11-01-2007, 05:41 PM
Some folks OBSESSION with threads being in the "right" forum leaves a guy shaking his head...

Minlawc
11-01-2007, 05:41 PM
ain't that the truth.

Remember Hilliary has alot of dirty secrets to come out too... well one's not really a secret just look up Peter Paul.

So by the end of the primaries, they'll both be pretty equal.

davidkachel
11-01-2007, 06:10 PM
The christian right will not vote for a ... gun grabber..

They will if they don't know he's a gun grabber!
Has anyone noticed that ALL of the 2nd Ammendment protection groups have their mouths shut tight, even though they all know that Giuliani, Romney and McCain (shame on you John; you of all people should know better) are gun grabbers?
What the hell is going on? Why are all these groups not screaming from the rooftops that G, R and Mc are Trojan horses?
I for one will never trust or give a dime to the NRA again.

paulitics
11-01-2007, 06:16 PM
They will if they don't know he's a gun grabber!
Has anyone noticed that ALL of the 2nd Ammendment protection groups have their mouths shut tight, even though they all know that Giuliani, Romney and McCain (shame on you John; you of all people should know better) are gun grabbers?
What the hell is going on? Why are all these groups not screaming from the rooftops that G, R and Mc are Trojan horses?
I for one will never trust or give a dime to the NRA again.

have they been slowly infiltrated with neocons perhaps? These guys have infiltrated christianity, and completely hijcked the republican party, so I wouldn't doubt it.

rancher89
11-01-2007, 07:26 PM
Any news story (short of video of the Ghoul spitting on the graves of 9/11 victims) that has the words 9/11 or Sept. 11th and Giuliani in the same paragraph, will help Giuliani. Heck, it would help him in a general election... in a Republican Primary election... it would help him even more.

This kind of attack is, I think, ineffectual for the same reason trying to nail Bush for reading to schoolkids during the attacks, such as in the movie Fahrenheit 911, was ineffectual. For most people, such displays of incompetence just make them empathize with the people in question even more... because most people don't exactly think of themselves as being master planners and they (either consciously or subconsciously) picture themselves as the ones being accused.

That's why he inserts 9/11 whenever he answers a question, he's been told it helps him. It works two ways, however. Those who know what kind of <delete expeltives ad nauseum & having trouble here typing person> "being" Ghouliani is know what he has done. Just ask anyone from NYC or a NYC fireman. I'm sure you have all seen the following link. It's the letter from the NYC firefighters union on why they did not invite RG to their forum earlier this year.

http://firefightingnews.com/article-US.cfm?articleID=27125

freelance
11-01-2007, 07:39 PM
I like the way Joe Biden said it in the debates: something about every sentence he says has three components--noun, verb, 911. It was the one-liner of the evening.

A Ron Paul Rebel
11-01-2007, 08:04 PM
I Hate This Fucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!

newmedia4ron
11-02-2007, 12:37 PM
Rudy dirt:
http://therealrudy.org
http://www.rudyrevealed.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20070625221949/www.oppodepot.com/giuliani.html
http://www.realchange.org/giuliani.htm
http://www.ronpaulpostcards.com/rudy.html
https://johnedwards.com/assets/site/scary-times.gif
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/archive/index.php/t-8788.html
http://dontvote4.us/

Elwar
11-02-2007, 12:53 PM
I think this site is the best one:

http://www.joinrudy20008.com

(Don't miss the extra '0')

torchbearer
11-02-2007, 12:59 PM
I think this site is the best one:

http://www.joinrudy20008.com

(Don't miss the extra '0')

+1 i'm surprised it doesn't have more views.

Shooterman
11-02-2007, 01:09 PM
I think this cintra association and the north american union is far more damaging. Most people will see the radio thing as maybe no big deal, maybe he didn't know about it, im sure he did, and im sure he will blame others per the usual. Expose him on the Citra!!!! that's where you can get him by his opportunistic nads.

Many, if not most 'Mainstream Conservatives', read Imperial Big Government types, consider the NAU and The NAFTA SuperDuper to be products of the tinfoil hat crowd. Why their government and Mr Bush would never do such a thing.:D:D:D