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Agorism
07-27-2011, 04:25 PM
McCain: Tea Party-Backed Lawmakers Making 'Foolish' Demands

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/john-mccain-tea-party-_n_911189.html


Speaking on the Senate floor on Wednesday, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) had some harsh words for lawmakers on Capitol Hill insisting their demands be met before supporting any potential agreement to raise the debt ceiling.

A plan put forth by House Speaker John Boehner to lift the deficit limit has left some congressional Republicans at odds with members of their party. In the upper congressional chamber, Tea Party-affiliated members such as Sens. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah) have come out against the proposal. In the House, GOP lawmakers such as Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) have vowed to cast a vote against any measure to raise the debt ceiling. All three Republicans stand behind a "Cut, Cap, and Balance" pledge, which entails opposing any debt limit increase without significant spending cuts, enforceable spending caps and congressional approval of a balanced budget amendment.

"What is really amazing about this is that some members are believing that we can pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution in this body with its present representation -- and that is foolish, said McCain on the Senate floor, according to The Hill. "That is worse than foolish. That is deceiving many of our constituents.

The Arizona senator regarded the situation unfolding as "unfair" and "bizarre."

In an interview with National Review Online earlier this month, McCain singled out Bachmann over her unwavering opposition to raising the debt ceiling.

"There are Republicans who are committed, like Michele Bachmann, to vote against raising the debt ceiling under any circumstances," he explained, suggesting that Bachmann is acting "sort of like Senator Obama did."

In 2006, then-senator Barack Obama cast a vote against raising the deficit limit. White House spokesman Jay Carney has said that the president now considers the vote "a mistake." Back in April Carney explained, "He realizes now that raising the debt ceiling is so important to the health of this economy and the global economy that it is not a vote that, even when you are protesting an administration's policies, you can play around with."

NewRightLibertarian
07-27-2011, 04:26 PM
The establishment is really freaking out over this.

AuH20
07-27-2011, 04:35 PM
The same guy who vouched for Obama? A decent man? :D

Kords21
07-27-2011, 04:50 PM
I really dont' put much stock in the man that unleashed Sarah Palin upon the world.

Bern
07-27-2011, 05:00 PM
What is really amazing about this is that some members are believing that we can pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution in this body with its present representation...

We're working on it John. We're working on it. The sun is setting for you and your friends.

sailingaway
07-27-2011, 05:27 PM
If they don't raise the debt ceiling, they have an automatic balanced budget requirement.

Brett85
07-27-2011, 05:44 PM
"All three Republicans stand behind a "Cut, Cap, and Balance" pledge"

Actually, that's incorrect. Bachmann voted against the cut, cap, and balance bill and has said that she won't ever vote to raise the debt ceiling.

Feeding the Abscess
07-27-2011, 06:02 PM
"All three Republicans stand behind a "Cut, Cap, and Balance" pledge"

Actually, that's incorrect. Bachmann voted against the cut, cap, and balance bill and has said that she won't ever vote to raise the debt ceiling.

lol, even though she voted for the Ryan budget, which raised the debt ceiling for 20 years.

The preening about liberties being lost while being a supporter of the police state is hilarious, too. I'm kind of waiting for someone to ask her, "hey Michele, which liberties have we lost?" and watch the stupid roll out of her mouth.

MJU1983
07-27-2011, 06:10 PM
Stopped reading at "McCain".

Echoes
07-27-2011, 06:12 PM
Proof that a McCain presidency wouldve been no different, if not worse then Obama. We probably wouldve attacked Iran by now.

Napoleon's Shadow
07-27-2011, 06:46 PM
Remember what Mike Church says?

http://www.mikechurch.com/zenshop/images/MuckFcCain_small.jpg

AuH20
07-27-2011, 06:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2BCR7MEiMY&feature=player_embedded

lx43
07-27-2011, 07:00 PM
McCain is a damn fool, I'm glad he lost to Obama.

Agorism
07-27-2011, 07:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2BCR7MEiMY&feature=player_embedded

Notice how he finds ways to take jabs at senators within the context of his speed. His entire purpose is pissing people off.

Brian4Liberty
07-27-2011, 07:04 PM
The RINOs are stampeding today! They are really coming out of the woodwork, proving that they are nothing more than establishment shills.

bunklocoempire
07-27-2011, 07:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2BCR7MEiMY&feature=player_embedded

Well that's hardly maverick of him.

I just love when my employee back talks.

Should went with the temp agency.


Bunkloco

Fermli
07-27-2011, 07:08 PM
I told my mother about this and she was disappointed. I then asked her what the difference between the two was in the last presidential election... the wheels started turning =)

She is a "tea party" aka confused republican fwiw.

Lafayette
07-27-2011, 11:07 PM
The Wars will end ,the bases will close, the social security checks will stop and all the thousands of programs and trillions of dollars for naught. All the free shit that never was ... gone.

Gone not because of an arbitrary number on a date no one will remember, but because the value others place on the paper in your wallet.

anaconda
07-28-2011, 12:15 AM
McCain is an asshole and an idiot and a deceitful scumbag. Senators have the obligation to represent their constituents. They are not obligated to engage in consensus forming deals. If the People of Kentucky say "No Deal," then No Deal it is where Rand is concerned. This is what he was elected to do. If McCain wants to excoriate the people of Kentucky, so be it. I'm sure as far as they are concerned, that fat bastard can shove it where the sun don't shine.

Anti Federalist
07-28-2011, 12:47 AM
In 2006, then-senator Barack Obama cast a vote against raising the deficit limit. White House spokesman Jay Carney has said that the president now considers the vote "a mistake." Back in April Carney explained, "He realizes now that raising the debt ceiling is so important to the health of this economy and the global economy that it is not a vote that, even when you are protesting an administration's policies, you can play around with."

So, the global corporate/government/military/industrial complex can never be denied.

Fuck them.

Default.

KingRobbStark
07-28-2011, 01:04 AM
He doesn't have credentials, record or intelligence to call anyone foolish.

angelatc
07-28-2011, 01:09 AM
McCain called the fiscal conservatives "Tea Party Hobbits?" Somebody should remind him that the hobbits won in the end, and saved Middle Earth in doing so.

headhawg7
07-28-2011, 01:21 AM
If they don't raise the debt ceiling, they have an automatic balanced budget requirement.

Yep...this sounds like a good plan of action to me.

headhawg7
07-28-2011, 01:24 AM
Proof that a McCain presidency wouldve been no different, if not worse then Obama. We probably wouldve attacked Iran by now.

Totally agree! It would have been Obama lite but still the govt would have grown just the same but with spending in different areas. He would have pushed a stimulus the same as obama. You would think the voters would wake up and realize that there is virtually no difference between many of these people excluding paul and a few others.

anaconda
07-28-2011, 02:07 PM
Totally agree! It would have been Obama lite but still the govt would have grown just the same but with spending in different areas. He would have pushed a stimulus the same as obama. You would think the voters would wake up and realize that there is virtually no difference between many of these people excluding paul and a few others.

But this would have assured a Democrat in the white house in 2013. Our timing is good.