purplechoe
07-25-2011, 10:30 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1570899&mesg_id=1570899
There are NO "Fringe Leftists" posting at DU
I have been here daily since February 2001,
and have NEVER read a serious post from a DUer advocating for
the confiscation of all Personal Property,
and having the citizens formed into Collectives to work for the government.
THAT is a "Fringe Left" position.
There ARE some "Fringe leftists" in the USA, but they are a very small minority,
and you won't see them here at DU, or with a voice in the National Media.
Our Media & The Large Corporations who fund it would be happy to have America believe that mainstream FDR/LBJ values
are "The Fringe Left", and are equally "balanced" by the Far Right Tea Party,
because THAT would move the mythological "Center" FAR to the Right.
You will even see that myth propagated at DU.
What you see at DU are the Mainstream-Center Pro-Working Class FDR/LBJ Democrats
advocating FOR traditional Democratic Values.
Attempts to marginalize FDR/LBJ Democrats as the "Fringe Left" only helps move this country further to The RIGHT.
Attempts to draw a False Equivalency between FDR/LBJ Democrats and the Tea Party only helps move this country to The RIGHT.
The following are Traditional Mainstream Democratic Party Values:
"Asked about the platform of the American Liberty League, a pressure group of rich conservative Democrats such as the Du Pont family that declared itself the protector of property rights and free enterprise, Roosevelt remarked that their principles seemed to be that "you shall love God and then forget your neighbor."
Government, he (FDR) countered, involved itself with "people who want to keep themselves free from starvation, keep a roof over their heads, lead decent lives, have proper educational standards" ... and who needed protection from those determined to "enrich and advance themselves at the expense of their fellow citizens."
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/19/business/la-fi-...
and THIS:
"In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
*The right of every family to a decent home;
*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
*The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
Americas own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens. For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.”
---FDR, 1944
THOSE are NOT "Fringe Left" positions,
and if these values are no longer welcome in the New Democrat Party,
then neither am I.
---bvar22
a Mainstream, Center FDR/LBJ DEMOCRAT
for 45 years
I don't remember all those rights being in the Bill of Rights, those people are delusional if they think that they are centrists...
There are NO "Fringe Leftists" posting at DU
I have been here daily since February 2001,
and have NEVER read a serious post from a DUer advocating for
the confiscation of all Personal Property,
and having the citizens formed into Collectives to work for the government.
THAT is a "Fringe Left" position.
There ARE some "Fringe leftists" in the USA, but they are a very small minority,
and you won't see them here at DU, or with a voice in the National Media.
Our Media & The Large Corporations who fund it would be happy to have America believe that mainstream FDR/LBJ values
are "The Fringe Left", and are equally "balanced" by the Far Right Tea Party,
because THAT would move the mythological "Center" FAR to the Right.
You will even see that myth propagated at DU.
What you see at DU are the Mainstream-Center Pro-Working Class FDR/LBJ Democrats
advocating FOR traditional Democratic Values.
Attempts to marginalize FDR/LBJ Democrats as the "Fringe Left" only helps move this country further to The RIGHT.
Attempts to draw a False Equivalency between FDR/LBJ Democrats and the Tea Party only helps move this country to The RIGHT.
The following are Traditional Mainstream Democratic Party Values:
"Asked about the platform of the American Liberty League, a pressure group of rich conservative Democrats such as the Du Pont family that declared itself the protector of property rights and free enterprise, Roosevelt remarked that their principles seemed to be that "you shall love God and then forget your neighbor."
Government, he (FDR) countered, involved itself with "people who want to keep themselves free from starvation, keep a roof over their heads, lead decent lives, have proper educational standards" ... and who needed protection from those determined to "enrich and advance themselves at the expense of their fellow citizens."
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/19/business/la-fi-...
and THIS:
"In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
*The right of every family to a decent home;
*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
*The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
Americas own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens. For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.”
---FDR, 1944
THOSE are NOT "Fringe Left" positions,
and if these values are no longer welcome in the New Democrat Party,
then neither am I.
---bvar22
a Mainstream, Center FDR/LBJ DEMOCRAT
for 45 years
I don't remember all those rights being in the Bill of Rights, those people are delusional if they think that they are centrists...