Obama to give a live address about the debt ceiling at 9 PM EST 7/25

[purplechoe]

more propaganda tonight from the socialist/ fascist in chief...

[devil21]

He sure is laying it on thick. No mention of how MUCH the debt ceiling is. Just cries of huge car loan interest rates and the inability of the feds to pay their bills.

[SilentBull]

Obama says we must raise the debt ceiling so we can pay our bills. Isn't the debt itself a bill, that he wants to make even bigger?

[LibertyEagle]

I am about ready to puke.

Liar-in-chief

[SilentBull]

I personally dislike this man. It's not just about his policies. I've never seen anyone so arrogant and dishonest.

[Carehn]

Is it going to be a comedy? Sounds like a comedy.

[TheNcredibleEgg]

Interest rates would fall if the debt ceiling was not raised.

Simple supply and demand.

1.5T would cease to be borrowed - therefore reducing the demand for loans. Unless other demand crops up - interest rates would fall to a lower level in order for the loanable funds to find a new home.

[purplechoe]

He sure is laying it on thick. No mention of how MUCH the debt ceiling is. Just cries of huge car loan interest rates and the inability of the feds to pay their bills.

he said that Reagan raised the debt ceiling quite a few times already, I dislike that he's so admired by so many "conservatives"...

[devil21]

he said that Reagan raised the debt ceiling quite a few times already, I dislike that he's so admired by so many "conservatives"...

Which was exactly what RP highlighted in the Conviction ad. Last I checked, Reagan didn't raise anything. The President doesn't have the power to raise it. Only Congress does.

[braane]

He was like... "People are tired of Partisan politics..." and then proceeded to rail on Republicans. Our President is a joke.

[AuH20]

Dude is openly threatening our wing on national TV. So he wants a fight I gather? :D

[purplechoe]

Boehner is on...

[devil21]

Boehner's up. Im sure this will be equally gross.

[georgiaboy]

I've got the tube for it already!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsDmPEeurfA

[purplechoe]

Last I checked, Reagan didn't raise anything. The President doesn't have the power to raise it. Only Congress does.

He had to sign the bill into law though...

[purplechoe]

He was like... "People are tired of Partisan politics..." and then proceeded to rail on Republicans. Our President is a joke.

"Now is not the time to play politics", as he's trying to get more money for his socialist agenda... :rolleyes:

[LibertyEagle]

Stephanopoulis, however u spell it, is really spinning big time.

[Napoleon's Shadow]

I am about ready to puke.

Liar-in-chief
I almost did when he tried to invoke Jefferson! :mad:

[AuH20]

This guy really is a dangerous narcissist. I'm slowly moving over to this camp. I'm starting to actually hate him, even though I've made excuses in the past that he's a puppet. I take that back. I think he really enjoys this chaos.

[kahless]

I liked that Boehner got that jab in about the Healthcare plan that no one wants.

[Carehn]

I almost did when he tried to invoke Jefferson! :mad:

He didn't!

[AuH20]

We should pay our bills. That pronoun is laughable when you consider that half the country pays no federal income tax.

[purplechoe]

This guy really is a dangerous narcissist. I'm slowly moving over to this camp. I'm starting to actually hate him, even though I've made excuses in the past that he's a puppet. I take that back. I think he really enjoys this chaos.

At first I thought he might be a Marxist, now I'm pretty sure he's a Marxist-Leninist...

[bunklocoempire]

GWB 2008 TARP redux:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsDmPEeurfA

My thoughts exactly. If it was a bit later in the election, ol' obama could bring the two "top tier" candidates into a closed door meeting and get them both to walk out talking up raising the debt ceiling as a "necessary" evil.... unless one of those candidates was Ron Paul of course!

buncha puke.:mad:

EDIT: I suppose it could be dragged on down to the wire...


Bunkloco

[LibertyEagle]

This guy really is a dangerous narcissist. I'm slowly moving over to this camp. I'm starting to actually hate him, even though I've made excuses in the past that he's a puppet. I take that back. I think he really enjoys this chaos.

Oh, I'm already there.

[asurfaholic]

Honestly i thought Boener did a good job. Is he really a hack job or are my gut feelings that he is drifting closer to Ron Pauls side correct? What are your thoughts - is he big govt puppet or what?

[Southron]

Honestly i thought Boener did a good job. Is he really a hack job or are my gut feelings that he is drifting closer to Ron Pauls side correct? What are your thoughts - is he big govt puppet or what?

Boehner may see the writing on the wall.

[purplechoe]

Honestly i thought Boener did a good job. Is he really a hack job or are my gut feelings that he is drifting closer to Ron Pauls side correct? What are your thoughts - is he big govt puppet or what?

he just puts his finger in the air to see which way the wind blows, to answer your question - my gut is telling me that you are correct about the last part...

[RecoveringNeoCon]

Honestly i thought Boener did a good job. Is he really a hack job or are my gut feelings that he is drifting closer to Ron Pauls side correct? What are your thoughts - is he big govt puppet or what?

He's just a big government establishment Republican. In his response that ended a few minutes ago, he noted his proposal that included a 12-member "super congress" committee that is really scary and grossly unconstitutional.

[Aratus]

Boehner may see the writing on the wall.
in auld dixiecrat time mag speak , obama has set
his merrie self and also pore boehner up to be
most lovingly city slicker slicked by wily and
wise monsieur senator mitch mcconnell...

[AGRP]

Executive branch:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtSgWZbL_kE

[QueenB4Liberty]

This guy really is a dangerous narcissist. I'm slowly moving over to this camp. I'm starting to actually hate him, even though I've made excuses in the past that he's a puppet. I take that back. I think he really enjoys this chaos.

Yeah I couldn't believe how many times he out right lied. He's still talking about not having the funds for Social Security. Seriously. He's sickening.

[bunklocoempire]

Honestly i thought Boener did a good job. Is he really a hack job or are my gut feelings that he is drifting closer to Ron Pauls side correct? What are your thoughts - is he big govt puppet or what?

Boener only cares about the best interest for the country...... he never said it was going to be easy...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ja9q386ek&feature=related


Bunkloco

[QueenB4Liberty]

He's just a big government establishment Republican. In his response that ended a few minutes ago, he noted his proposal that included a 12-member "super congress" committee that is really scary and grossly unconstitutional.

really? I didn't catch that but I believe you. And didn't he say his plan only cut $1 trillion? wtf?

[LibertyEagle]

He's just a big government establishment Republican. In his response that ended a few minutes ago, he noted his proposal that included a 12-member "super congress" committee that is really scary and grossly unconstitutional.

Not to mention his Republican proposal has become a gutted piece of crap.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?304944-Rand-Opposes-Debt-Deal-to-Add-7-Trillion-to-Debt&p=3419399

[Napoleon's Shadow]

Dude is openly threatening our wing on national TV. So he wants a fight I gather? :D
Yeah that was my exact thought.

He is trying to swat at the Tea Party / liberty movement hornet's nest.

[Aratus]

if obama + boehner kick the can down the road,
the control of the process may be handed to a very
congressional person. this may neuter the very imperial
presidency g.w bush added to after the times and epochs
of FDR + RICHARD NIXON! mitch mcconnell is about to make
a power grab equal to the one that senator thaddeus stevens and
war sec' stanton pulled on a contrary sitting southern potus. the lack
of a deal has obama looking like a total idiot. the art of the deal with the
dreaded word compromise all over it hands to senator mcconnell an almost
absolute control of the federal gov't for four glorious years until methinks 2014.

[MelissaWV]

National Debt / Tax Revenue ~ 6.61 ... x / Median Income ~ 6.61 ... x ~ $297,426.96

Given our tax revenue as a nation, and our national debt, this would be akin to someone with an income of $45,000 carrying a debt of nearly $300,000. I use annual income because, of course, this debt is only growing and our tax revenue comes in every year. It's the best analogy though not without fault.

Multiply your income by 6.61 and figure out if you'd ever be able to pay it off without changing your habits so the debt doesn't climb, and the interest doesn't sink you.

The country's in trouble and its leaders can only laugh and point fingers.

[asurfaholic]

I didnt catch the super congress part either, but if he IS behind that then my gut feelings are wrong wrong wrong....

[LibertyEagle]

Honestly i thought Boener did a good job. Is he really a hack job or are my gut feelings that he is drifting closer to Ron Pauls side correct? What are your thoughts - is he big govt puppet or what?

Yes, he's a big government bailout Republican. Make no mistake.

[purplechoe]

quick everyone, send blank checks to Washington... what do they think we're stupid... don't answer that, it's rhetorical...

[trey4sports]

both are nothing but thug, statists.

Fundamentally, they believe it is the government that owns your money, and as President Obama said today "we spent money on tax cuts for the wealthy."

[AuH20]

Obama is trying to hold up the Tea Party Republican resistance for Bush's prolifigate spending and by proxy, Obama's as well. He's a classless thug.

[Deborah K]

He's just a big government establishment Republican. In his response that ended a few minutes ago, he noted his proposal that included a 12-member "super congress" committee that is really scary and grossly unconstitutional.

Is there a tube anywhere? I called my rep's office today about this and the staff knew nothing about it - surprise, surprise. I'd like to send them a tube clip and get a friggin answer on this! NO SUPER CONGRESS!!!! NO!!! This will take authority completely away from the rest of Congress!!

[Aratus]

it strips potus and the congress, both.
it implies oligarchy insted of democracy.

[Revolution9]

What a flipping kettle of putrefacted hogwash, finger pointing prevarication, disingenuous misdirection, arrogantly contrived piffle, ego tripping inflection, passive aggressive pugilisms, simplistic similes and sheer balderdash and codswallop this mack daddy marionette of a male model hell bent on a saturnian chaos magick ritual overdrive impulse dished out.

Can't stand watching him, in case ya didn't figure that out yet.

Rev9

[KramerDSP]

FYI - Boehner was Tom Delay's prized understudy all the way up through Delay's resignation.

[RonPaulGetsIt]

Bog government statists on both sides of the aisle vs. Ron Paul.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Stephanopoulis, however u spell it, is really spinning big time.
It's Snuffleupagus!... George Stephanopoulis is the 'Candle Holder for the Obama Regime''
I can't stand ABC... Political Director Amy Walter, and ABC NEWS has had a complete BLACKOUT of Ron Paul with the exception of Ron commenting on Michele Bachmann's Migranes. No TV coverage, which the people/zombies spend a majority of their time glued to...

The ABC BLACKOUT TEAM
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ABC News Political Director
editor in chief of The Hotline,
National Journal Group's online
briefing on politics and policies,
Amy Walter is the publication's
primary voice.
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ABCNews.com Senior Political
Reporter and Deputy Political Director
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ABC News Political Editor and
Deputy Political Director
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ABC News Digital Reporter
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ABCNews.com Reporter
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ABC News' Senior
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ABCNews.com
Digital Reporter
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ABC News' Senior Political
Editor for 'World News' based
in Washington, D.C.
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ABC News Digital Reporter
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ABCNews.com Digital Reporter
covering the U.S. House of Representatives.

[Deborah K]

What a flipping kettle of putrefacted hogwash, finger pointing prevarication, disingenuous misdirection, arrogantly contrived piffle, ego tripping inflection, passive aggressive pugilisms, simplistic similes and sheer balderdash and codswallop this mack daddy marionette of a male model hell bent on a saturnian chaos magick ritual overdrive impulse dished out.

Can't stand watching him, in case ya didn't figure that out yet.

Rev9

Funny!!!!

[Anti Federalist]

Default.

Now.

Fuck these carpetbagging, two bit, tin horn, wannabe dictators.

I didn't spend this money, I never wanted this money spent, I violently disagreed with what it is being spent on and if because of default the everfucking Communist Chinese get stuck holding a bunch of worthless Federal Reserve paper, well tough fucking shit for them too.

Piss up up a rope, all you cocksuckers, it ain't my fucking bill and I ain't paying it.

[Danke]

Default.

Now.

Fuck these carpetbagging, two bit, tin horn, wannabe dictators.

I didn't spend this money, I never wanted this money spent, I violently disagreed with what it is being spent on and if because of default the everfucking Communist Chinese get stuck holding a bunch of worthless Federal Reserve paper, well tough fucking shit for them too.

Piss up up a rope, all you cocksuckers, it ain't my fucking bill and I ain't paying it.

Wow, and it is only Monday.

[wannaberocker]

Obama is the kinda guy who would be willing to throw the economy to hell , if it meant he would get re-elected.

[The One]

Default.

Now.

Fuck these carpetbagging, two bit, tin horn, wannabe dictators.

I didn't spend this money, I never wanted this money spent, I violently disagreed with what it is being spent on and if because of default the everfucking Communist Chinese get stuck holding a bunch of worthless Federal Reserve paper, well tough fucking shit for them too.

Piss up up a rope, all you cocksuckers, it ain't my fucking bill and I ain't paying it.



I get so tired of you bullshit, AF. Why don't you ever take a firm stance on anything?

[RecoveringNeoCon]

Yea, Boehner didn't specifically say the words "Super Congress", but he did mention a "bipartisan committee" - if I remember correctly.

[Kylie]

National Debt / Tax Revenue ~ 6.61 ... x / Median Income ~ 6.61 ... x ~ $297,426.96

Given our tax revenue as a nation, and our national debt, this would be akin to someone with an income of $45,000 carrying a debt of nearly $300,000. I use annual income because, of course, this debt is only growing and our tax revenue comes in every year. It's the best analogy though not without fault.

Multiply your income by 6.61 and figure out if you'd ever be able to pay it off without changing your habits so the debt doesn't climb, and the interest doesn't sink you.

The country's in trouble and its leaders can only laugh and point fingers.



Where/how did you get your numbers?


I was thinking this same thing earlier. Show me numbers. I'll tell you if you're full of shit.

[Anti Federalist]

Wow, and it is only Monday.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5El2HgYTcrvNNtum6Nr11TdXjDb2SI bWTfcDlWDV9av5LCHUFLQ

[Anti Federalist]

I get so tired of you bullshit, AF. Why don't you ever take a firm stance on anything?

http://i.tfster.com/cache/arch.413chan.net/Not_Sure_if_Serious-(n1292338719834).jpg

[The One]

http://i.tfster.com/cache/arch.413chan.net/Not_Sure_if_Serious-(n1292338719834).jpg


I firmly believe there is a need for a sarcasm font.

[Anti Federalist]

I firmly believe there is a need for a sarcasm font.

LoL

[KingRobbStark]

mmmmmmm...fuck.