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Freedom 4 all
07-24-2011, 12:01 PM
Let's suspend all conspiracy theories for a second and pretend everyone the government says was responsible for stuff actually was. Terrorism always seems to get the opposite result wanted by the terrorist. Timothy McVeigh wanted to fight an oppressive federal government, so he blew up the Oklahoma building. The reaction to this was to ramp up security and make things far more oppressive than they were previously. Osama Bin Laden was pissed off with the West for screwing with middle eastern affairs, and the reaction to 9/11 was to make things far worse in the middle east than they already were. However, this guy in Norway was clearly a neocon and hated Muslims. The reaction to this will almost undoubtedly be ramped up security, which will ultimately and nearly unavoidably end up discriminating against Muslims. This fucking bastard may just well be the first "successful" terrorist.
moderate libertarian
07-24-2011, 12:17 PM
You raise a valid point, it has plenty merit. But case of Osama may be exception to your argument.
Bin Laden Transcript Outlines Plan to Bankrupt U.S. Through War
By Demian McLean - November 1, 2004 16:23 EST
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=us&sid=aQwY7PFwX6oI
pcosmar
07-24-2011, 12:34 PM
:confused:
Let's suspend all conspiracy theoriesrational thought for a second
Assuming the government says,,,,,
WTF.
Tim McViegh did not blow up OKC. He did not plant the bombs inside the building nor did he give the orders to ATF to stay away from their offices.
He was involved in the plot, likely drove the truck. He was a good government soldier.
It was targeted at the Patriot Movement that was growing at the time.
OBL welcomed us to bankrupt ourselves just before he died of a terminal illness.
And Oslo only widens the War on all of us, and expands the Police State.
BlackTerrel
07-24-2011, 02:17 PM
Well this guy was pro-Israel, anti-Muslim and wanted Norway to be pro-Israel.
So by the 9/11 false flag logic cui bono?
Must be the government of Iran behind this.
pcosmar
07-24-2011, 02:21 PM
Well this guy was pro-Israel, anti-Muslim
Naw,, Even the Anti-Islamists didn't want anything to do with this guy.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/23/us-norway-killer-group-idUSTRE76M37Q20110723
BlackTerrel
07-24-2011, 02:33 PM
Naw,, Even the Anti-Islamists didn't want anything to do with this guy.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/23/us-norway-killer-group-idUSTRE76M37Q20110723
Well the narrative is he was pro-Israel.
(Reuters) - A fringe European anti-Islamist lobby group said Saturday the man suspected of Norway's gun and bomb massacre had tried to join their Facebook group on the Internet but had been rejected over his apparent neo-Nazi links.
Anders Gravers, founder of Stop Islamization of Europe (SIOE), said Anders Behring Breivik had made the application around 18 months ago.
Is everyone in Norway named Anders?
pcosmar
07-24-2011, 02:47 PM
Is everyone in Norway named Anders?
I suspect a common name.
There are several things in this story,,, or "reported" in this story, that make no sense.
Contradictions. and inexplicable inconsistencies.
I have, in my past, lived with and dealt with psychopaths. I have had dealings with Klan, Skinheads and Aryan Nations, and recognize their foul stench. So much so that I don't even like to call myself white.
There are parts of this story that don't fit from any perspective beyond being a piece of a larger game.
And with far more evil men men than I have known personally.
Hence my concern.
This will end up affecting us all.
:(
Aratus
07-24-2011, 02:59 PM
i deeply feel this was the bloodiest and most
tragic day for norway in the decades since
WW2 given that the actions of an isolated
terrorist may sadly transform a society.
raiha
07-24-2011, 03:02 PM
I suspect a common name.
There are several things in this story,,, or "reported" in this story, that make no sense.
Contradictions. and inexplicable inconsistencies.
I have, in my past, lived with and dealt with psychopaths. I have had dealings with Klan, Skinheads and Aryan Nations, and recognize their foul stench. So much so that I don't even like to call myself white.
There are parts of this story that don't fit from any perspective beyond being a piece of a larger game.
And with far more evil men men than I have known personally.
Hence my concern.
This will end up affecting us all.
:(
Are you a psychiatrist?
pcosmar
07-24-2011, 03:04 PM
Are you a psychiatrist?
No.
Ex Convict.
I spent several years in a very bad place.
squarepusher
07-24-2011, 03:18 PM
Let's suspend all conspiracy theories for a second and pretend everyone the government says was responsible for stuff actually was. Terrorism always seems to get the opposite result wanted by the terrorist. Timothy McVeigh wanted to fight an oppressive federal government, so he blew up the Oklahoma building. The reaction to this was to ramp up security and make things far more oppressive than they were previously. Osama Bin Laden was pissed off with the West for screwing with middle eastern affairs, and the reaction to 9/11 was to make things far worse in the middle east than they already were. However, this guy in Norway was clearly a neocon and hated Muslims. The reaction to this will almost undoubtedly be ramped up security, which will ultimately and nearly unavoidably end up discriminating against Muslims. This fucking bastard may just well be the first "successful" terrorist.
actually no, he makes white Europeans as possibly terrorists now. He makes Muslims look good.
bunklocoempire
07-24-2011, 05:13 PM
:confused:
Evil begets evil on any side. Ain't nothing unique.
*SNIP* from pcosmar
:(This will end up affecting us all.
^^^THIS^^^
:(:mad:
Bunkloco
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