PDA

View Full Version : YIKES!!! LOST moves forward: the Globalists passed this. Sovereignty at risk.




Lord Xar
10-31-2007, 03:20 PM
I grabbed this at another forum that is very 'up to speed' on the sovereignty issues of the United States and the validity of the Constitution.

They Passed the Law of the Seat Treaty to go to the Floor for Consideration!

IF THIS MOVES FORWARD - you better welcome the globalist agenda.

RON PAUL needs to Vocally come out against this. He probably should have mentioned this last night on Jay Leno.

**********************
Senate Panel Backs Sea Treaty
By JIM ABRAMS – 45 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Reagan-era "Law of the Sea" treaty was primed for its first-ever Senate vote, boosted by strong support from the Bush administration and an emphatic vote of approval Wednesday by the Foreign Relations Committee.

With Senate ratification, the United States would join 155 nations that are party to a convention that sets rules and settles disputes over navigation, fishing and economic development of the open seas and establishes environmental standards.

Treaty supporters, after making little headway for years, have gained momentum recently with concerns that the melting of the global ice cap will trigger a rush of claims by Arctic countries, including Russia, to previously iced-in resources.

Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Joseph Biden, D-Del., said the international pact, first proposed by Richard Nixon in 1970, offered the United States a simple choice. "Do we join a treaty that establishes a framework to advance the rule of law ... or do we remain on the outside, to the detriment of our national interests."

"If we fail to ratify this treaty, we are allowing decisions that will affect our Navy, our ship operators, our offshore industries and other maritime interests to be made without U.S. representation," said Sen. Dick Lugar, the panel's top Republican. "We will also be forced to rely on other nations to oppose excessive claims to Arctic territory by Russia and perhaps others."

The committee vote was 17-4.

The White House has urged the Senate to approve the treaty, and senior Pentagon officials have endorsed it, saying it would give legal clarity to U.S. naval operations. The oil and gas industry says failure to ratify could put it at a disadvantage in sovereignty disputes over Arctic continental shelf areas that may hold one quarter of the world's undiscovered oil and natural gas.

Navy commanders on Wednesday pointed to recent piracy incidents off the Somalia coast as illustrations of how the treaty would provide the U.S. Navy and its sailors with better protections.

Ratifying the treaty, said Vice Admiral John G. Morgan Jr., deputy chief of naval operations, would "give us treaty-based rights to restore order in the maritime realm." The Navy assisted the crew of a North Korean cargo ship after they clashed with Somali pirates this week.

But the convention still faces stiff opposition from Senate Republicans who contend it would subject U.S. military and economic interests to a hostile international bureaucracy.

"I am absolutely convinced it undermines U.S. sovereignty," Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., told a recent news conference of GOP opponents. "This treaty will not be adopted," said Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz. "There aren't the votes to pass it." Treaties must be approved by a two-thirds majority of the Senate.

The Law of the Sea Convention was concluded in 1982 and went into force in 1994. President Reagan opposed U.S. participation because of one provision dealing with deep seabed mining. That provision was amended in 1994 to satisfy U.S. concerns and signed by President Clinton, but the Senate ignored it.

Three years ago, the Foreign Relations Committee voted unanimously in favor of the treaty but the full Senate, then in Republican hands, did not take it up.

The treaty recognizes sovereign rights over a country's continental shelf out to 200 nautical miles and beyond if the country can provide evidence to substantiate its claims. It gives Arctic countries 10 years after they ratify the treaty to prove their claims under the polar ice cap. The United States, with its Alaskan coast, is the only Arctic nation not party to the treaty.

On the Net:
Senate Foreign Relations Committee: http://foreign.senate.gov/

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iKBSNfKHl996nZO4HBhhpedrdoEwD8SKD6P80

BW4Paul
10-31-2007, 03:24 PM
Oh goodness, this is terrible. :(

Does anyone know of anything we can do at this point to express our opposition in a meaningful way?

Stealth4
10-31-2007, 03:27 PM
Oh goodness, this is terrible. :(

Does anyone know of anything we can do at this point to express our opposition in a meaningful way?

call your senators

Congress switchboard (202) 224-3121

I know that number by heart.

Lord Xar
10-31-2007, 03:27 PM
Now this goes to the floor for ratification, then I believe the House.

this needs to stop.... both sides are voting for it. I am 'SURE' Tancredo and Paul will oppose it. But I am sure the majority of America does not even know about this.

the new world order is at hand.

*************************************

Just some of the devastating aspects of the Law of the Sea (LOST) Treaty:

It will give the U.N. total jurisdiction over all the oceans and everything in them, including the ocean floor with "all" its riches ("solid, liquid or gaseous mineral resources"), along with the power to regulate seven-tenths of the world's surface. It is not a stretch to see that "he who controls the oceans, controls the land."

It will allow for mandated international regulations of economic and industrial activities on land.

It will extend foreign bureaucrats and the U.N.'s reach into our Constitution, thereby reducing our sovereignty to nil.

It will threaten American sovereignty by subjecting our governmental, military, and business operations to mandatory dispute resolution, to be decided by bodies that have a reputation for being Anti-American. These "disputes" will be decided by an International Tribunal.

It will compromise American security by requiring the transfer of sensitive, militarily useful technologies to other nations and international organizations hostile to American interests.

It imposes U.S. compliance with the Kyoto Protocol, the UN environmentalism treaty.

It will establish an international tax, which would take money out of the American business revenue stream for the ISA's (International Seabed Authority) use and could be easily transferred to socialist, anti-American nations, which constitute the majority of the nations who have already ratified LOST. The tax money collected would give the UN a continuous revenue stream with no oversight but the UN itself!

It will grant the U.S. only one vote (one vote out of 140 voting nations), despite the fact that the vast majority of funding will come from American taxpayers.

The U.N. will have certain controls over the U.S. military and by signing the treaty we will have to comply.

The U.S. will no longer be able to stop ships on the high seas for terrorism; the LOST treaty doesn't allow it.

The U.N. has been trying to get this treaty passed since the Reagan administration. Regan deep sixed it, but now the proponents are finding globalist politicians imbedded in the U.S. Congress and only too willing to give up our sovereignty.

The US should never join sweeping multilateral treaties that are to the detriment of our sovereignty.

We must not allow the subjugation of the rights and interests of the US to the jurisdiction of the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea or any group of international arbitrators.

LOST is nothing more than a form of World Government!!!

(cut/pasted from another forum)

Please note: OBAMA, KERRY, DODD voted for this treaty. Obama is surely a traitor. Big banks are his bread and butter.

Stealth4
10-31-2007, 03:29 PM
we can make people more aware of it by posting it on more places and discussing it if indeed its that important right now - but what are the chances of it passing the senate and house? I know Sessions (R) is concerned about it and he's a prominent republican?

Im still in the learning stage about this issue.

NinjaPirate
10-31-2007, 04:00 PM
Oh damn, this is not good at all......

olehounddog
10-31-2007, 04:21 PM
I just let dole and burr know how I fell about it.

LibertyEagle
10-31-2007, 04:23 PM
.... trying to get it stopped.

http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/LOST/



This is very, very bad. We must stop it. Please everyone, call your senators repeatedly.