Far too often Paul supporters get angry and banned [Archive]

Pro-Life Libertarian

07-13-2011, 01:34 PM

On other forums. I notice this all the time. Then they get dismissed as "predictable Paulbots". And they are very predictable.

Name calling won't get you anywhere and you have to use real arguments. Makes me angry that supporters get generalized the way they do, but so often it is true.

Kludge

07-13-2011, 01:37 PM

End the Fed! Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate seeking to end IRS violence in America, not MITT CON-ME! If you support Mitt Romney, YOU ARE A SHEEP!

Sola_Fide

07-13-2011, 01:38 PM

I agree with what you say here. Some people in our camp are immature idiots who use name-calling as a way of arguing and therefore hurt the cause of liberty.

dannno

07-13-2011, 01:38 PM

//edit

Thought you were talking about this forum.

Ya, there are a lot of RP supporters out there.

specsaregood

07-13-2011, 01:40 PM

Some people in our camp are immature idiots who use name-calling as a way of arguing

That applies to all camps and all candidates' supporters.

IndianaPolitico

07-13-2011, 01:42 PM

Agreed, once you begin to call names, you have lost the argument.

JoshLowry

07-13-2011, 01:42 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/8388603/US-military-creates-fake-online-personas.html

*whistles*

I want to believe that Paul nuts don't exist, albeit every bunch has them.

dannno

07-13-2011, 01:48 PM

I disagree that this is a Ron Paul movement problem, I think it's the opposite.

Why is it that every time I see an article about Ron Paul, I go to the comments section and it is a bunch of Ron Paul supporters discussing political ideology, then a few others will come through and throw insults like "Ron Paul is a nut", completely uncalled for.

I think Ron Paul supporters get far more name calling flung at them than the opposite.

How many of those forums, where the Ron Paul supporter got banned, was the Ron Paul supporter the person to draw first blood with name calling? I'll bet it's less than 10%.

Pro-Life Libertarian

07-13-2011, 01:51 PM

End the Fed! Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate seeking to end IRS violence in America, not MITT CON-ME! If you support Mitt Romney, YOU ARE A SHEEP!

Pretty much stuff like that. If not the F word being scattered a few times.

Pro-Life Libertarian

07-13-2011, 01:52 PM

That applies to all camps and all candidates' supporters.

I have to say moreso with this camp.

MJU1983

07-13-2011, 01:56 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/8388603/US-military-creates-fake-online-personas.html

*whistles*

I want to believe that Paul nuts don't exist, albeit every bunch has them.

It wouldn't surprise me...on another forum I'm on I saw a lot of "new" members that have the same talking points/responses on Ron Paul to bash him and rarely reply to being called out or refuted.

Similarly, it could be just as easy to alienate potential supporters... even though the instigator may not actually be a "supporter" by acting idiotic as described in the OP.

http://www.picassodreams.com/picasso_dreams/2011/04/cointelpro-techniques-for-dilution-misdirection-and-control-of-an-internet-forum.html

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17852/army_of_fake_social_media_friends_to_promote_propa ganda

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/white-house-dedicates-new-position-to-deal-with-unfavorable-online-media_b36292

http://lewrockwell.com/spl3/25-rules-of-disinformation.html

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/15/sunstein

http://www.infowars.com/fbi-steps-up-harassment-of-political-activists/

http://lewrockwell.com/whitehead/whitehead33.1.html

JoshLowry

07-13-2011, 01:57 PM

Sometimes I think Kludge and Amy are the same person. Sometimes...

Pro-Life Libertarian

07-13-2011, 02:07 PM

Lets do an experiment. I am a regular on this quality forum http://www.republicanoperative.com/forums/

I believe the creator/head moderator of the forum supported Paul last time. Everyone gets along with him because he isn't constantly promoting Ron.

Maybe 2 or 3 of you guys could sign up in the next couple of days. More later down the road. Don't start off talking about Ron Paul. Just ease your views into some of the discussions. Always be friendly and courteous. We have to change the perception of mainstream Republicans. Also, don't let on that anybody referred you to this site, because a some users would be very anxious to find out which of the Paul supporters on that forum invited them.

If anybody is interesting just say it in this thread We don't need a huge wave going into that site, lets make it gradual. We can start of with 3 users.

One will join today.

Another will join Friday.

Another will join Sunday.

Don't let on who you support at first. Just that you support the Constitution. Again, be kind and courteous. Talk more about other topics than you do about Ron Paul. This will earn respect and stop you from being dismissed as "another Paulbot". And again, don't let on that anybody referred you to that forum.

Anybody want to try this?

inibo

07-13-2011, 02:09 PM

End the Fed! Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate seeking to end IRS violence in America, not MITT CON-ME! If you support Mitt Romney, YOU ARE A SHEEP!

I think you need to include some bold and italicized words or people will not realize the buckets of truth you are throwing at them.

LibertyEagle

07-13-2011, 02:10 PM

Well, if you look on the last page of the "Vote for Ron Paul 2012" thread, it looks like a RP supporter or a poser, made us look pretty bad. :(

Pro-Life Libertarian

07-13-2011, 02:13 PM

Well, if you look on the last page of the "Vote for Ron Paul 2012" thread, it looks like a RP supporter or a poser, made us look pretty bad. :(

That sorta prompted me to make this thread. It surely wasn't the first time it has happened.

specsaregood

07-13-2011, 02:13 PM

I have to say moreso with this camp.

We'll have to agree to disagree. The stuff people in the others camps have said has been MUCH worse from my view.

JohnMeridith

07-13-2011, 02:19 PM

I would disagree with this thread. The forums I see RP people on have a bunch of people that read a RP reference post and then the bs starts flying about nut job and terrorists and blah blah blah.

specsaregood

07-13-2011, 02:19 PM

We'll have to agree to disagree. The stuff people in the others camps have said has been MUCH worse from my view.

For example, would you like me to dig up some of the stuff the moderator of the hannity forums said about dr. paul and all of us last time?

LibertyEagle

07-13-2011, 02:26 PM

For example, would you like me to dig up some of the stuff the moderator of the hannity forums said about dr. paul and all of us last time?

It does not matter. We have to be above the fray.

specsaregood

07-13-2011, 02:31 PM

It does not matter. We have to be above the fray.

That is irrelevent to the claims of the OP. We are not worse or unique in this aspect --all camps and their supporters have their fair share of loud, obnoxious assholes.

Revolution9

07-13-2011, 02:34 PM

It does not matter. We have to be above the fray.

Shouldn't be too hard since the fray has long been in the gutter snagged on the sewer grate...fraying.

Rev9

pacelli

07-13-2011, 02:41 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/8388603/US-military-creates-fake-online-personas.html

*whistles*

I want to believe that Paul nuts don't exist, albeit every bunch has them.

bingo. nice find.

acptulsa

07-13-2011, 02:51 PM

Ah, the joy of being for the one the MSM hates. All the candidates have impatient supporters, but ours get all the press. If only we all had more than four cheeks to turn...

Danke

07-13-2011, 03:00 PM

Sometimes I think Kludge and Amy are the same person. Sometimes...

I believe there exists a recent manifestation of that...

And someday it will lead us.

Sola_Fide

07-13-2011, 03:05 PM

amy31416

07-13-2011, 03:26 PM

I believe there exists a recent manifestation of that...

And someday it will lead us.

Salute your future patriotic overlord.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/gbrooks_photo/DSCF0018a.gif

Romulus

07-13-2011, 03:44 PM

I have to say moreso with this camp.

What are you saying.. we are a bunch of insane trolls on other forums?

I frequent a lot of forums and I have never came across a RP supporter that was out of line or over the top. This is my experience.

Chieppa1

07-13-2011, 03:53 PM

Far too often Paul supporters start discussions on other forums, get ignorant, finger-in-ears people angry and get banned. Better?

Danke

07-13-2011, 04:21 PM

Salute your future patriotic overlord.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/gbrooks_photo/DSCF0018a.gif

Awww. In B4 RPF chicks.

LisaNY

07-13-2011, 04:31 PM

What are you saying.. we are a bunch of insane trolls on other forums?

I frequent a lot of forums and I have never came across a RP supporter that was out of line or over the top. This is my experience.

I agree and quite frankly am getting sick of these holier-than-thou posters basing rp supporters here. Can anyone recommend a more cohesive rp site?

acptulsa

07-13-2011, 04:39 PM

I agree and quite frankly am getting sick of these holier-than-thou posters basing rp supporters here. Can anyone recommend a more cohesive rp site?

I'm pretty sure the cointeltrolls have infested them all.

Danke

07-13-2011, 04:41 PM

I agree and quite frankly am getting sick of these holier-than-thou posters basing rp supporters here. Can anyone recommend a more cohesive rp site?

Don't leave us Lisa. The OP only joined last month.

Pro-Life Libertarian

07-13-2011, 09:03 PM

I agree and quite frankly am getting sick of these holier-than-thou posters basing rp supporters here. Can anyone recommend a more cohesive rp site?

I am not saying people on this site-specifically. Some RP supporters are what kept me away from RP for so long though. Ok?

You sound like a good supporter though.

specsaregood

07-13-2011, 09:10 PM

I am not saying people on this site-specifically. Some RP supporters are what kept me away from RP for so long though. Ok?

No offense but that sounds like a really stupid reason not to consider a candidate; but hey sure glad you came around.

BlackTerrel

07-13-2011, 09:15 PM

That is irrelevent to the claims of the OP. We are not worse or unique in this aspect --all camps and their supporters have their fair share of loud, obnoxious assholes.

I see it more said about us.

A couple examples.

1. Herman Cain recently complained of being hounded by Ron Paul supporters. Cain was always going to drop out at some point. And all our people did was make sure his 10% of supporters will look for someone other than Ron Paul when that happens.

2. Someone recently posted an article by a blogger who endorsed Ron Paul who basically said "I held out for so long only because Ron Paul supporters are so pushy and annoying.

You don't hear this about other guys. You hear it regularly about Ron Paul. Have you ever heard anyone say "I like Mitt Romney but his supporters annoy me"? Or "Herman Cain is great but his supporters are terrible"?

Doesn't happen.

specsaregood

07-13-2011, 09:26 PM

You don't hear this about other guys. You hear it regularly about Ron Paul. Have you ever heard anyone say "I like Mitt Romney but his supporters annoy me"? Or "Herman Cain is great but his supporters are terrible"?

Doesn't happen.

Maybe because the assholes that actually support and/or vote for those 2 don't care enough to tell others or are too afraid of being embarrassed by it that you don't know. FWIW: i've seen many annoying dumbass comments by cain supporters, well for the 2 weeks he was popular anyways.

Danke

07-13-2011, 09:44 PM

I see it more said about us.

A couple examples.

1. Herman Cain recently complained of being hounded by Ron Paul supporters. Cain was always going to drop out at some point. And all our people did was make sure his 10% of supporters will look for someone other than Ron Paul when that happens.

2. Someone recently posted an article by a blogger who endorsed Ron Paul who basically said "I held out for so long only because Ron Paul supporters are so pushy and annoying.

You don't hear this about other guys. You hear it regularly about Ron Paul. Have you ever heard anyone say "I like Mitt Romney but his supporters annoy me"? Or "Herman Cain is great but his supporters are terrible"?

Doesn't happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc&feature=player_embedded

RM918

07-13-2011, 10:03 PM

Maybe because the assholes that actually support and/or vote for those 2 don't care enough to tell others or are too afraid of being embarrassed by it that you don't know. FWIW: i've seen many annoying dumbass comments by cain supporters, well for the 2 weeks he was popular anyways.

Exactly. You don't hear about 'Bachmann' supporters, for instance, for the same reason her 'moneybomb' was so freaking pitiful: They don't exist. There can't possibly be anyone who exists who wholeheartedly believes in what Bachmann says, because there's no 'there' there. It's all empty rhetoric and when they say they are 'supporters' it means they 'like' Bachmann, that is it. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a Bachmann supporter who held that position for longer than a couple months.

In truth, they're all voting for one candidate - Team Red. All this primary is about to them is which mask it gets to wear.

heavenlyboy34

07-13-2011, 10:09 PM

BlackTerrel

07-13-2011, 10:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc&feature=player_embedded

He's serious this time. Leave her alone.

dannno

07-13-2011, 10:28 PM

No offense but that sounds like a really stupid reason not to consider a candidate; but hey sure glad you came around.

ROFL!!

"No offense but you SUCK!!!

No offense, though, seriously.."

:D

HarryBrowneLives

07-13-2011, 10:32 PM

Exactly. You don't hear about 'Bachmann' supporters, for instance, for the same reason her 'moneybomb' was so freaking pitiful: They don't exist. There can't possibly be anyone who exists who wholeheartedly believes in what Bachmann says, because there's no 'there' there. It's all empty rhetoric and when they say they are 'supporters' it means they 'like' Bachmann, that is it. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a Bachmann supporter who held that position for longer than a couple months.

In truth, they're all voting for one candidate - Team Red. All this primary is about to them is which mask it gets to wear.

I would agree with this. From what I've seen online on other sites i think it breaks down like this in no particular order:

1. A few name-caller RP supporters once in a while get banned.

2. The Red Team all gangs up on Ron and us as their MEME akin to the Dems meme on George W ... the dog ate my homework or I got a hangnail ... if it weren't for RP! Which, BTW, has become to point of absurdity.

3. Neandertal types who recycle the meme or some stupid comment against RP from the Neocon talk hosts and would rather stick their fingers in their ears screaming the Theme to Oklahoma than discuss an intellectual argument on policy. A lot of people would rather believe what they want to believe than have an actual discussion.

Deborah K

07-13-2011, 10:32 PM

Kludge

07-14-2011, 05:55 AM

End the LIBERAL FED!!! Liberalism (AKA neoCONSERVATISM) was inspired by LEON TROTSKY, the COMMUNIST!! Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate seeking to end IRS violence in America, not TWO-FACED MITT CON-ME! Ron Paul doesn't go around shaking babies and holding their parents hands, trying to act like a saint, because he IS one! If you support Mitt Romney, YOU ARE A SHEEP! You are a fucking hopeless idiot who deserves to be aborted (not that I support that kind of murder!)
Considerations considered. Fixed.