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mello
07-06-2011, 09:56 AM
I'm gonna say now that we are probably gonna break the internet when that story comes out.

http://www.redesign.rumormiller.com/story.php?title=ron-paul-is-all-talk-and-no-action

AlexMerced
07-06-2011, 10:07 AM
Ron Paul should put Pelosi on the spot and introduce a bill that'll cut congress's salary down to the national average and apply the savings to debt reduction.

It won't pass, but it'll put Pelosi on the hot seat if she made those statements

Badger Paul
07-06-2011, 10:12 AM
So Matt Tabbi is going to report that neither Nancy Pelosi or John Boehner like RP. And that RP isn't a complete saint (although compared to the other guys it's an improvement) and some disgruntled staffer doesn't like scheduling RP for TV appearances, and this is supposed to end RP's political career and he's going to have to get police protection and live in hiding after the article is produced because hordes of Paul supporters will be after him?

Whatever. If its anything like his Michele Bachmann piece, which was basically nothing more than stealing what local bloggers had been saying about her for years and reproducing their work as his own, then I'm not overly too concerned. Obviously Bachmann is still going after Tabbi's hit piece. Why would a hit piece on Paul be any different?

AdamT
07-06-2011, 10:16 AM
Taibbi and his establishment masters will lie and slander until the sun goes down. They are scared to death America will realize what it has lost and will want to reclaim the Republic. Onward!

dannno
07-06-2011, 10:17 AM
Rock needs a new magazine, one without Matt Tabbi.

HOLLYWOOD
07-06-2011, 10:24 AM
Ron Paul should put Pelosi on the spot and introduce a bill that'll cut congress's salary down to the national average and apply the savings to debt reduction.

It won't pass, but it'll put Pelosi on the hot seat if she made those statementsNever make it out of committee... "The Establishment of the Duopoly" buries anything that takes power or wealth away from government.

But, it would be a nice 5-10 second point to include on a 30 second commercial.

Romulus
07-06-2011, 10:28 AM
You know it's going to come right before Aimes. I can bet on it... his liberal agenda attacks on cue. I say bring it on Tabbi. The more they attack, the stronger we become.

Dorfsmith
07-06-2011, 10:31 AM
You know it's going to come right before Aimes. I can bet on it... his liberal agenda attacks on cue. I say bring it on Tabbi. The more they attack, the stronger we become.

I don't know any Republican voters who read Rolling Stone. Come to think of it, I don't know anybody who reads Rolling Stone.

sailingaway
07-06-2011, 10:36 AM
You know it's going to come right before Aimes. I can bet on it... his liberal agenda attacks on cue. I say bring it on Tabbi. The more they attack, the stronger we become.


Yeah, the left is a LOT more worried about Ron than anyone else at the straw poll. They are DROOLING over running against Bachmann in the general election. Ron even steals support from the left. Freedom is popular.

When Rand was running for office, this turkey flew to Kentucky and stalked Rand, asking the same question over and over. Given their mutual background in economics and the federal reserve, you would think it would be about the Fed, or Goldman Sachs... but no, he kept yelling "Do you think Martin Luther King is a Communist?"

Rand ignored him.

I suggest we do the same.

Exponent
07-06-2011, 10:36 AM
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Travlyr
07-06-2011, 10:40 AM
Ron Paul Is All Talk And No Action
Writing books is an action, and Ron's written several of them. Reading what Ron Paul writes is informative.

The article if published as described will likely end Matt Taibbi's career and bankrupt Rolling Stone Magazine. It is dumb in this day and age to lie.


The article reveals an intense hatred of Paul's anti-government policies by his Democratic coworkers.
Educated adults know that the U.S. Constitution formed our government, so when people claim that Ron Paul, "The Champion of the Constitution" is anti-government, their credibility is immediately destroyed and any further reading is just a waste of time.

Grade school stuff...

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angelatc
07-06-2011, 10:40 AM
When I heard he refused to talk to Rand Paul about common ground, I lost all respect I had for him. Well, ok - I didn't think I actually had any respect for him, but was strangely disappointed regardless.

But as pointed out above, rumormiller is not even pretending to be a reliable source. I'm guessing there really isn't an article...

sailingaway
07-06-2011, 10:42 AM
My comment:


LOL! You say that because he won't discuss it before it comes out and he can get money from people reading it, that means it will end Ron's career?

And P.S., about Pelosi's statement that he received an 'ever increasing salary', Ron voted against every congressional pay raise until they went to automatic raises, and voted against doing that, and now repeatedly puts bills in to cut congressional pay. He also refuses to participate in the lucrative pension program.

This guy stalked Rand Paul during his campaign saying over and over 'Do you think Martin Luther King was a Communist?' It was the ONLY question he asked, even though they have mutual interests in holding Goldman Sachs and the Fed responsible. This guy has some good economics insight, but is fast becoming a hack.

mczerone
07-06-2011, 10:43 AM
I don't know any Republican voters who read Rolling Stone. Come to think of it, I don't know anybody who reads Rolling Stone.

I quit renewing/reupping my RS subscription after Hunter S. Thompson died. It became just another big-record-company establishment mouthpiece. The articles, style, music features, etc. were all aimed at status-quo yuppies, and it no longer displayed anything of interest to an average, poor, eclectic, local music fan.

Wasn't Taibbi the one with good articles about the wars (Drug, Terror, and international ones) and bailouts? Why isn't he the one person at RS shouting RP's message from the rooftops?

rp08orbust
07-06-2011, 10:49 AM
Is there any way for Ron Paul to exploit this to his advantage? I.e., refer to it as proof that he is the candidate that Obamatrons fear most?

brushfire
07-06-2011, 10:49 AM
I'd expect to feel more heat, the closer we get to the dragon.

This looks to be a very aggressive smear article. Interesting that it took him a year to find the complainers cited in the article.

Ron Paul has already waved his "expensive government official" benefits Pelosi. You make more than Ron Paul, why dont you wave yours...
Ron Paul is consistent in keeping with the big picture, as his policy on the FED also stands to lose him lots of money - should that come to fruition.

Romulus
07-06-2011, 10:52 AM
Yeah, the left is a LOT more worried about Ron than anyone else at the straw poll. They are DROOLING over running against Bachmann in the general election. Ron even steals support from the left. Freedom is popular.

When Rand was running for office, this turkey flew to Kentucky and stalked Rand, asking the same question over and over. Given their mutual background in economics and the federal reserve, you would think it would be about the Fed, or Goldman Sachs... but no, he kept yelling "Do you think Martin Luther King is a Communist?"

Rand ignored him.

I suggest we do the same.

Haha! I never heard that. I bet that pissed off Tabbi. Good for Rand.

Tabbi is nothing more than feel good partisan porn for liberal statists. He is to be ignored. If/when he comes out with his smears, I say WE ignore him too. No hate mail. Focus our energy in a positive direction.

jonhowe
07-06-2011, 10:53 AM
I thought this site was supposed to be a joke site???

Edit: It is: http://www.redesign.rumormiller.com/story.php?title=polls-keith-stone-leading-gop-presidential-candidate

Romulus
07-06-2011, 10:54 AM
When I heard he refused to talk to Rand Paul about common ground, I lost all respect I had for him. Well, ok - I didn't think I actually had any respect for him, but was strangely disappointed regardless.

But as pointed out above, rumormiller is not even pretending to be a reliable source. I'm guessing there really isn't an article...

maybe/maybe not. Tabbi is not concerned about the truth - just his masters agenda. Only the news fit for printing, says the editor.

Brian4Liberty
07-06-2011, 10:56 AM
This "attack point" on Ron Paul has been circulating for the past month or so. Neo-cons have been using it. Maybe it originated on the "right".

jonhowe
07-06-2011, 10:57 AM
I think this is clearly a fake article. Look at the rest on the site.

Can we edit the 1st post to reflect this doubt?

mit26chell
07-06-2011, 11:04 AM
This is all fake, although I am expecting a hitpiece from RS at some point. Matt Taibbi will probably do one on each of the candidates.

ronpaulitician
07-06-2011, 11:22 AM
I don't know any Republican voters who read Rolling Stone. Come to think of it, I don't know anybody who reads Rolling Stone.
I read it. And I enjoy Matt's articles.

Tom in NYC
07-06-2011, 11:43 AM
I read it. And I enjoy Matt's articles.

I used to read it as well, but my interest waned. It's like reading anything: you have to take the good with the bad and consider the source (and their motives). It did turn me on to a lot of interesting articles and books, etc.

Original_Intent
07-06-2011, 11:49 AM
I think this is clearly a fake article. Look at the rest on the site.

Can we edit the 1st post to reflect this doubt?

I agree, I say either lame satire or just flat out fake.

Brian4Liberty
07-06-2011, 12:08 PM
This "attack point" on Ron Paul has been circulating for the past month or so. Neo-cons have been using it. Maybe it originated on the "right".


This is all fake, although I am expecting a hitpiece from RS at some point. Matt Taibbi will probably do one on each of the candidates.


I agree, I say either lame satire or just flat out fake.

Lame satire, with a talking point that originated on the "right".

jonhowe
07-06-2011, 12:51 PM
For full proof, please look at the author's profile/other articles: http://www.redesign.rumormiller.com/user.php?login=Lindsay

falconplayer11
07-06-2011, 12:56 PM
This is fake. Why would he work for a year on a piece when we didn't know Ron was going to run until a few months ago? It would have made a really boring article if Ron didn't run...a total waste of time, because they wouldn't publish a big piece about a Congressman only 5-10% of their readers have heard of.

falconplayer11
07-06-2011, 12:57 PM
Those arguments are so weak they are humorous...Pelosi and Boehner criticizing Ron Paul? Who cares! "Been earning a salary longer than many Americans have been alive..." him and dozens of other Washington officials. Pelosi and Boehner have done far worse, and nobody cared. Why would they care about this?

falconplayer11
07-06-2011, 12:58 PM
An intern subjugated to scheduling media appearances? Speaking as a Washington intern, that is good work for a Washington intern! This is a total fake! Those arguments are so weak that they have to be fake! Did the piece even mention the racist issue? That is the only real issue they could stir up, but even that is not a big deal.

"*Editors note: An earlier version of the article incorrectly referred to worldnetdaily.com as worldnutdaily.com The spelling error was not intentional and we regret the mistake. We ask that worldnutdaily readers direct any further complaints to devnull@rumormiller.com."

That was intentional...you guys are too gullible! And getting angry like this is exactly what the author wanted.

Ron Paul is a nobody to 90% of Americans. Yeah, we all love him, but Rolling Stone wouldn't run an article about someone everyone thinks is a nobody.

Taibbi apparently likes Ron <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/mailbag-why-i-cant-vote-for-ron-paul-20110502more than the other GOP candidates</a>...why would he trash marijuana-legalizing-Ron and not Christian-anti-gay-Bachmann or religious-right-Bush-II-Perry?

Brian4Liberty
07-06-2011, 01:07 PM
For full proof, please look at the author's profile/other articles: http://www.redesign.rumormiller.com/user.php?login=Lindsay

Good find. Satires in favor of war and Israel. Neo-conservative confirmed.

Brian4Liberty
07-06-2011, 01:09 PM
RollingStone Story about Ron Paul by Matt Taibbi [Possibly Fake]

Confirmed fake.

sailingaway
07-06-2011, 02:52 PM
This is fake. Why would he work for a year on a piece when we didn't know Ron was going to run until a few months ago? It would have made a really boring article if Ron didn't run...a total waste of time, because they wouldn't publish a big piece about a Congressman only 5-10% of their readers have heard of.

Everyone at Rolling stone has heard of Ron Paul. Ron Paul has 80% name recognition amongst EVERYONE, including those who don't use the internet.

And it was pretty possible he'd be running a year ago.

However, that doesn't mean it isn't a fake site. Oh, well...wasted a comment, I guess!

newyearsrevolution08
07-06-2011, 03:00 PM
Its a shitty mag that no one reads BUT if it is bad publicity, they will quote the amazing "rollingstone" mag on all this trash THROUGH places like msm, radio, print, online etc.

Everyone would recognize the mag and assume it to be a HUGE deal just due to the name even IF no one actually reads the article. I think people would end up buying the issue just due to the neg press that will odds are be put on it. its a win win for them

Ron Paul or Bust

ronpaulitician
07-06-2011, 03:15 PM
Taibbi apparently likes Ron <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/mailbag-why-i-cant-vote-for-ron-paul-20110502more than the other GOP candidates</a>...why would he trash marijuana-legalizing-Ron and not Christian-anti-gay-Bachmann or religious-right-Bush-II-Perry?
He liked him in 2008. Not so much in 2012, thanks to his interactions with some Tea Party members.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/mailbag-why-i-cant-vote-for-ron-paul-20110502

I must say that I share some of his sentiment, in that I think the bad (or maybe just "lesser") apples that were part of Paul's 2008 campaign seem to have morphed effortlessly into (one side of) the Tea Party.

Still, just like with his view of Rand, that's very much a guilt by association excuse for suddenly not liking Paul.

I also share his sentiment about the racial comments in the newsletters, minus the "at best" part.

Paul has denied that he wrote any of the crazy entries in these newsletters, but at best he exercised extremely bad judgment in letting some of these things (how about calling MLK a “communist philanderer”?) in there go out under his name.

1836
07-06-2011, 03:16 PM
Confirmed fake.

zing

PastaRocket848
07-06-2011, 03:40 PM
"A source close to Speaker of the House John Boehner is quoted in the article quipping "Ron Paul, a libertarian? I don't care what he claims to be- during votes he's a good boy and votes the way the adults tell him to." In fact, the article reveals multiple instances in which the Congressman compromises his principles by voting for stricter regulation, government expansions, harsher drug penalties, and annual pay raises for himself."

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that is clearly satire.

Aldanga
07-06-2011, 03:59 PM
I was thinking it was nothing yesterday when it was posted in Media Spin (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?302011-Ron-Paul-Is-All-Talk-And-No-Action).

ChrisDixon
07-06-2011, 04:24 PM
It's almost like they want to stir us up and wind up the Paul community now...