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rp08orbust
07-01-2011, 07:55 PM
Previous Iowa Robopolls

Please see the thread from 6/30/2011 for an explanation of why I'm doing these robopolls.

6/30/2011 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?301333-Iowa-Robopoll-Report-6-30-2011)


ChipIn for More Robopolling

Please donate to the official Ron Paul campaign at http://iowaforronpaul.com/projects.php if you are not yet maxed out. Otherwise, please consider donating for more robopolls at http://robertgeary.chipin.com/iowa-robopoll-762011 . So far, Ron Paul supporters among Iowa independents have been identified through robopolling for about $4 each.


Today's Sample

Today I called all 2,484 registered Iowa voters who met the following criteria:

1. Registered to vote in Iowa as independent (Non-Partisan).
2. Male
3. Will be younger than 40 years hold on August 13.
4. The phone number provided in the voter database is a cell phone number as determined by phonevalidator.com.
5. Primary ZIP code is 50124, 50134, 50248, 50046, 50236, 50056, 50231, 50037, 50244, 50243, 50154, 50036, 50099, 50073, 50007, 50152, 50075, 50161, 50021, 50102, 50278, 50156, 50247, 50130, 50023, 50226, 50055, 50230, 50246, 50212, 50032, 50035, 50031, 50132, 50313, 50051, 50316, 50317, 50234, 50239, 50301, 50302, 50303, 50304, 50305, 50306, 50319, 50328, 50329, 50330, 50331, 50332, 50333, 50334, 50335, 50336, 50339, 50340, 50359, 50360, 50361, 50362, 50363, 50364, 50393, 50394, 50396, 50936, 50940, 50947, 50950, 50980, 50981, 50347, 50350, 50397, 50391, 50367, 50368, 50369, 50380, 50381, 50392, 50276, 50131, 50109, 50307, 50318, 50395, 50310, 50308, 50309, 50314, 50271, 50122, 50162, 50168, 50107, 50009, 50206, 50315, 50320, 50322, 50311, 50312, 50324, 50028, 50249, 50040, or 50158.
6. Were not called by rp2012.org.

All of the ZIP codes are between 9 and 39 miles driving distance of the Hilton Coliseum, as determined by zip-codes.com (see http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?300831-Driving-distances-from-Ames-by-zip-code&p=3367532&viewfull=1#post3367532). This covers a large chunk of Des Moines. I would normally have a bottom age limit to exclude the flakier end of Ron Paul's younger supporters, but I figure if they live that close to Ames, the teenagers are worth a try.


The question

At Jun Dam's request (he's donating $100 for this poll), I removed Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain (all of whom did quite poorly in the 6/30/2011 robopoll) and added Sarah Palin, who he believes will enter the race. The exact text of the poll question was as follows:


Good evening. Please tell me which candidate you currently support for president in 2012. Enter: One for Barack Obama. Two for Mitt Romney. Three for Michele Bachmann. Four for Tim Paw-lenty. Five for Sarah Palin. Six for Rick Perry. Seven for Ron Paul. Or zero for other or undecided. Once again, please enter. One for Barack Obama. Two for Mitt Romney. Three for Michele Bachmann. Four for Tim Paw-lenty. Five for Sarah Palin. Six for Rick Perry. Seven for Ron Paul. Or zero for other or undecided.

(The hyphen in Pawlenty's name was necessary to get the TTS system to pronounce his name correctly.)


Results

2,484 phone numbers were dialed between 7:30pm and 8:30pm Central time.

2,282 calls were answered, which at $0.05 per minute, cost about $111.

There were 163 responses to the poll question as follows:

Barack Obama 60 (37%)
Ron Paul 31 (19%)
Mitt Romney 18 (11%)
Michele Bachmann 8 (5%)
Sarah Palin 8 (5%)
Tim Pawlenty 4 (2%)
Rick Perry 2 (1%)
Other/Undecided 32 (20%)

The Barack Obama and Ron Paul percentages are remarkably similar to those of the last robopoll. 31 Ron Paul supporters identified for $111 is about $3.58 per identified Ron Paul supporter.

sailingaway
07-01-2011, 08:06 PM
Very cool. I'm wondering if we want to give this information to twitter, or if it should be in the Grassroots Central forum....

And teenagers can be very dedicated. And sometimes they go in groups.

rp08orbust
07-01-2011, 08:07 PM
Very cool. I'm wondering if we want to give this information to twitter, or if it should be in the Grassroots Central forum....

And teenagers can be very dedicated. And sometimes they go in groups.

I'll let you make that call. I started it out in General Politics to maximize visibility to those on the forums right now.

sailingaway
07-01-2011, 08:09 PM
Yeah, and that means it will hit twitter at least once.... I'll leave it for a while. It IS very cool....

rp08orbust
07-01-2011, 08:12 PM
Yeah, and that means it will hit twitter at least once.... I'll leave it for a while. It IS very cool....

What were the tweets like about the last robopoll?

sailingaway
07-01-2011, 08:52 PM
It just goes out by a guy who has 3000+ followers and what they do I only know if I am following them...

I just came here from this tweet:


EconomicMayhem Wesley A. Swan
Iowa Robopoll Report 7/1/2011 http://j.mp/krtCj8 #tcot
16 minutes ago

I just don't know why we should give everyone your good ideas -- and a price list. So I'm going to move it to the other forum now.

specsaregood
07-01-2011, 08:58 PM
I just don't know why we should give everyone your good ideas -- and a price list. So I'm going to move it to the other forum now.

I really wish we had a grassroots forum here that was non guest viewable or even invite only.

BUSHLIED
07-01-2011, 09:32 PM
I love these robopolls...so it seems you extended your radius and left out candidates. If you don't mine, could you please post both polls data in the same thread/post. I want to compare both polls. Thanks.

trey4sports
07-01-2011, 10:29 PM
good work

Galileo Galilei
07-01-2011, 11:30 PM
Previous Iowa Robopolls

Please see the thread from 6/30/2011 for an explanation of why I'm doing these robopolls.

6/30/2011 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?301333-Iowa-Robopoll-Report-6-30-2011)


Today's Sample

Today I called all 2,484 registered Iowa voters who met the following criteria:

1. Registered to vote in Iowa as independent (Non-Partisan).
2. Male
3. Will be younger than 40 years hold on August 13.
4. The phone number provided in the voter database is a cell phone number as determined by phonevalidator.com.
5. Primary ZIP code is 50124, 50134, 50248, 50046, 50236, 50056, 50231, 50037, 50244, 50243, 50154, 50036, 50099, 50073, 50007, 50152, 50075, 50161, 50021, 50102, 50278, 50156, 50247, 50130, 50023, 50226, 50055, 50230, 50246, 50212, 50032, 50035, 50031, 50132, 50313, 50051, 50316, 50317, 50234, 50239, 50301, 50302, 50303, 50304, 50305, 50306, 50319, 50328, 50329, 50330, 50331, 50332, 50333, 50334, 50335, 50336, 50339, 50340, 50359, 50360, 50361, 50362, 50363, 50364, 50393, 50394, 50396, 50936, 50940, 50947, 50950, 50980, 50981, 50347, 50350, 50397, 50391, 50367, 50368, 50369, 50380, 50381, 50392, 50276, 50131, 50109, 50307, 50318, 50395, 50310, 50308, 50309, 50314, 50271, 50122, 50162, 50168, 50107, 50009, 50206, 50315, 50320, 50322, 50311, 50312, 50324, 50028, 50249, 50040, or 50158.
6. Were not called by rp2012.org.

All of the ZIP codes are between 9 and 39 miles driving distance of the Hilton Coliseum, as determined by zip-codes.com (see http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?300831-Driving-distances-from-Ames-by-zip-code&p=3367532&viewfull=1#post3367532). This covers a large chunk of Des Moines. I would normally have a bottom age limit to exclude the flakier end of Ron Paul's younger supporters, but I figure if they live that close to Ames, the teenagers are worth a try.


The question

At Jun Dam's request (he's donating $100 for this poll), I removed Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain (all of whom did quite poorly in the 6/30/2011 robopoll) and added Sarah Palin, who he believes will enter the race. The exact text of the poll question was as follows:



(The hyphen in Pawlenty's name was necessary to get the TTS system to pronounce his name correctly.)


Results

2,484 phone numbers were dialed between 7:30pm and 8:30pm Central time.

2,282 calls were answered, which at $0.05 per minute, cost about $111.

There were 163 responses to the poll question as follows:

Barack Obama 60 (37%)
Ron Paul 31 (19%)
Mitt Romney 18 (11%)
Michele Bachmann 8 (5%)
Sarah Palin 8 (5%)
Tim Pawlenty 4 (2%)
Rick Perry 2 (1%)
Other/Undecided 32 (20%)

The Barack Obama and Ron Paul percentages are remarkably similar to those of the last robopoll. 31 Ron Paul supporters identified for $111 is about $3.58 per identified Ron Paul supporter.

This is great stuff. I ran a Libertarian Party candidate's campaign for congress in 2008 and did some similar things. One thing we did was target households with two registered voters. We robo-called every single household (about 15,000 of them) at least three times in a congressional district that had two registered voters (this was the congressional district in Wisconsin that borders Iowa). And as you can see, it cost only a few hundred dollars to do each time. We picked households with two registered voters as we did not have the money to call everyone and we figured it was more cost effective. We either did polls or did a standard one-minute radio ad. We then sent follow up snail mail letters to the most promising households, and we issued press releases on the polling data.

LibertyEagle
07-01-2011, 11:51 PM
I really wish we had a grassroots forum here that was non guest viewable or even invite only.

Make the request in the Forum Feedback subforum. :)

speciallyblend
07-02-2011, 12:11 AM
reading this thread makes me sleep a lil better at night:) Ron Paul 2012

rp08orbust
07-02-2011, 09:11 AM
If any maxed-out donors to Ron Paul want to donate toward a robopoll for today, you can do so here: http://robertgeary.chipin.com/iowa-robopoll-752011

parocks
07-02-2011, 12:05 PM
Keep up the great work. (you might see me saying the same thing again).

I love looking at this data. I love that it seems to indicate that Ron Paul is doing great. I love that you are indentifying Ron Paul supporters so quickly, easily and cheaply.
I love how only Ron Paul supporters have any clue that these calls benefit Ron Paul.



Previous Iowa Robopolls

Please see the thread from 6/30/2011 for an explanation of why I'm doing these robopolls.

6/30/2011 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?301333-Iowa-Robopoll-Report-6-30-2011)


Today's Sample

Today I called all 2,484 registered Iowa voters who met the following criteria:

1. Registered to vote in Iowa as independent (Non-Partisan).
2. Male
3. Will be younger than 40 years hold on August 13.
4. The phone number provided in the voter database is a cell phone number as determined by phonevalidator.com.
5. Primary ZIP code is 50124, 50134, 50248, 50046, 50236, 50056, 50231, 50037, 50244, 50243, 50154, 50036, 50099, 50073, 50007, 50152, 50075, 50161, 50021, 50102, 50278, 50156, 50247, 50130, 50023, 50226, 50055, 50230, 50246, 50212, 50032, 50035, 50031, 50132, 50313, 50051, 50316, 50317, 50234, 50239, 50301, 50302, 50303, 50304, 50305, 50306, 50319, 50328, 50329, 50330, 50331, 50332, 50333, 50334, 50335, 50336, 50339, 50340, 50359, 50360, 50361, 50362, 50363, 50364, 50393, 50394, 50396, 50936, 50940, 50947, 50950, 50980, 50981, 50347, 50350, 50397, 50391, 50367, 50368, 50369, 50380, 50381, 50392, 50276, 50131, 50109, 50307, 50318, 50395, 50310, 50308, 50309, 50314, 50271, 50122, 50162, 50168, 50107, 50009, 50206, 50315, 50320, 50322, 50311, 50312, 50324, 50028, 50249, 50040, or 50158.
6. Were not called by rp2012.org.

All of the ZIP codes are between 9 and 39 miles driving distance of the Hilton Coliseum, as determined by zip-codes.com (see http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?300831-Driving-distances-from-Ames-by-zip-code&p=3367532&viewfull=1#post3367532). This covers a large chunk of Des Moines. I would normally have a bottom age limit to exclude the flakier end of Ron Paul's younger supporters, but I figure if they live that close to Ames, the teenagers are worth a try.


The question

At Jun Dam's request (he's donating $100 for this poll), I removed Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain (all of whom did quite poorly in the 6/30/2011 robopoll) and added Sarah Palin, who he believes will enter the race. The exact text of the poll question was as follows:



(The hyphen in Pawlenty's name was necessary to get the TTS system to pronounce his name correctly.)


Results

2,484 phone numbers were dialed between 7:30pm and 8:30pm Central time.

2,282 calls were answered, which at $0.05 per minute, cost about $111.

There were 163 responses to the poll question as follows:

Barack Obama 60 (37%)
Ron Paul 31 (19%)
Mitt Romney 18 (11%)
Michele Bachmann 8 (5%)
Sarah Palin 8 (5%)
Tim Pawlenty 4 (2%)
Rick Perry 2 (1%)
Other/Undecided 32 (20%)

The Barack Obama and Ron Paul percentages are remarkably similar to those of the last robopoll. 31 Ron Paul supporters identified for $111 is about $3.58 per identified Ron Paul supporter.

parocks
07-02-2011, 12:33 PM
Do you think that you're going to be finding that the people you're calling are going to be farther and farther away from Ames, or are you going to be calling Ames over and over until you get an answer?

Some suggestions: You might want to break it down as 18-29 and 30-45. That matches what PPP does, and it could be useful to compare your results with PPP. Often PPP will give breakdowns by age, and you can compare. You might start doing women as well. You might start doing landlines as well. And you can compare 18-29 males to 18-29 females, you can compare cell phone to landline, etc.

I think that what you're doing is definitely absolutely worthwhile, but I'm worried that you'll be calling people far far away from Ames if you keep going, and it might be more worthwhile to call females close to Ames than males 4 hours away from Ames.



If any maxed-out donors to Ron Paul want to donate toward a robopoll for today, you can do so here: http://robertgeary.chipin.com/iowa-robopoll-752011

rp08orbust
07-02-2011, 12:38 PM
Do you think that you're going to be finding that the people you're calling are going to be farther and farther away from Ames, or are you going to be calling Ames over and over until you get an answer?

Some suggestions: You might want to break it down as 18-29 and 30-45. That matches what PPP does, and it could be useful to compare your results with PPP. Often PPP will give breakdowns by age, and you can compare. You might start doing women as well. You might start doing landlines as well. And you can compare 18-29 males to 18-29 females, you can compare cell phone to landline, etc.

I think that what you're doing is definitely absolutely worthwhile, but I'm worried that you'll be calling people far far away from Ames if you keep going, and it might be more worthwhile to call females close to Ames than males 4 hours away from Ames.

You're right, this ideal demographic will be exhausted rather quickly. When we get to, say, 60 miles from Ames, I'll probably go back to Ames and remove certain criteria.

I can always break results down by narrower age brackets after the polls are done.

specsaregood
07-02-2011, 12:40 PM
I love looking at this data. I love that it seems to indicate that Ron Paul is doing great. I love that you are indentifying Ron Paul supporters so quickly, easily and cheaply.
I love how only Ron Paul supporters have any clue that these calls benefit Ron Paul.

I agree with you in everything you said; my only concern is that he is doing great with people registered independent. I think Dr. Paul really needs to make a habit in his statements, interviews etc to encourage people registered independent to switch to republican for the primaries/caucus where it matters. I'll leave it up to the experts to figure out how to get him to say it and how to say it.

GunnyFreedom
07-02-2011, 12:52 PM
May also be a good idea to run a poll of "likely Republican caucus voters" at some point between now and...well...January, just to see where we are on that. I don't know that Independents can caucus with the Republicans there.

LudwigVonMisoSoup
07-02-2011, 01:09 PM
Your poll might be getting skewed results because you're continually putting Obama #1 which is easy enough for the caller to end the call, rather than listening to the whole thing. You're also putting RP last which may be influencing their decision because he's the last one they remember. Can you try mixing up the names next time you do a robocall, so they're in no particular order?

rp08orbust
07-02-2011, 01:15 PM
Your poll might be getting skewed results because you're continually putting Obama #1 which is easy enough for the caller to end the call, rather than listening to the whole thing.

That's why I put him first--to get rid of the Obama-leaning independents. I'm not trying to measure Obama's level of support in these polls.


You're also putting RP last which may be influencing their decision because he's the last one they remember.

I put all the other candidates before Ron Paul for the same reason I put Obama before all the Republicans.

But "Zero for other or undecided" is the last thing they hear. If there's a candidate they prefer over Ron Paul but they forgot the number, they'll hear the number the second time the answers are read.

I'm not too concerned about biases, because my only purpose is to identify people who would vote for Ron Paul in the Ames straw poll.

Imperial
07-02-2011, 01:20 PM
Are you giving these names to the campaign? What do you do with them?

rp08orbust
07-02-2011, 01:24 PM
Are you giving these names to the campaign? What do you do with them?

I'm sending the complete poll results to Jun Dam, who has the same voter database and can have the rp2012.org phonebankers call back the Ron Paul supporters.

I'd like to send the data to the campaign, but Steve Bierfeldt and I have not been able to get in touch by phone yet to talk about it.

specsaregood
07-02-2011, 01:46 PM
May also be a good idea to run a poll of "likely Republican caucus voters" at some point between now and...well...January, just to see where we are on that. I don't know that Independents can caucus with the Republicans there.

Independents can caucus in Iowa. And it sounds like that is the specific group that gave Obama the Win over Hillary and Edwards.


Barack Obama 37.6%
John Edwards 29.7%
Hillary Rodham Clinton 29.5%


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/01/AR2008010102318.html


DES MOINES, Jan. 1 -- With two days before Iowans go to the polls, significant support for Sen. Barack Obama from political independents has put rival Democratic campaigns on edge, challenging the traditional model of the state's caucuses as a low-turnout exercise dominated by partisan insiders.

The senator from Illinois received a jolt of momentum late New Year's Eve, when the Des Moines Register's final Iowa poll showed him leading Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) by 32 percent to 25 percent, with former senator John Edwards (N.C.) at 24 percent. But just as striking were two findings that suggest Obama may be succeeding at one of the riskiest gambits of his Iowa campaign, an aggressive push to persuade non-Democrats to participate.

The survey found that more newcomers than regular participants could turn out on Thursday: Overall, 40 percent of likely Democratic caucusgoers identified themselves as independents, the poll said, double the percentage from 2004, and 60 percent said they would be attending a caucus for the first time. Both groups preferred Obama.

As rival campaigns immediately challenged the makeup of the Register sample and a poll for CNN-Opinion Research came out showing the race a virtual tie between Clinton and Obama, the candidates spent the first day of the election year courting the shrinking number of uncommitted voters.

Chief Clinton strategist Mark Penn disputed the poll, calling the Register's turnout model "unprecedented" and "out of sync with other polling done in the race," including several recent surveys that showed a statistical dead heat. Edwards spokesman Eric Schultz called the Register model "at odds with history."

More at link.


It sounds like Obama pushed hard to get the Independent vote to the democrat caucus and they didn't want the "status quo" candidates. If Obama can win with that type of "riskiest gambit", I don't see why Dr. Paul couldn't also pull it off.

GunnyFreedom
07-02-2011, 01:52 PM
Independents can caucus in Iowa. And it sounds like that is the specific group that gave Obama the Win over Hillary and Edwards.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/01/AR2008010102318.html


It sounds like Obama pushed hard to get the Independent vote to the democrat caucus and they didn't want the "status quo" candidates. If Obama can win with that type of "riskiest gambit", I don't see why Dr. Paul couldn't also pull it off.

Good! Independents are where RP does best. It makes it less important to touch registered GOP with the poll, but it would still be interesting to know. I mean for the primary not the straw poll, so I do recognize we are talking about 2 different things here.

parocks
07-02-2011, 02:32 PM
Are you holding on to the data that you yourself are collecting? Keeping a copy I mean. So that when you and Steve do get to talk you can send him the data unless he thinks it's illegal to do so?


I'm sending the complete poll results to Jun Dam, who has the same voter database and can have the rp2012.org phonebankers call back the Ron Paul supporters.

I'd like to send the data to the campaign, but Steve Bierfeldt and I have not been able to get in touch by phone yet to talk about it.

parocks
07-02-2011, 02:51 PM
The official campaign is reaching out to Republicans, and this grassroots effort is doing what the official campaign is not doing, so the efforts aren't duplicated.


Good! Independents are where RP does best. It makes it less important to touch registered GOP with the poll, but it would still be interesting to know. I mean for the primary not the straw poll, so I do recognize we are talking about 2 different things here.

tsai3904
07-02-2011, 02:58 PM
Independents can caucus in Iowa.

Only registered Republicans can vote, but you are allowed to register or change party affiliations at the caucus.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/99999999/NEWS09/70523032/Caucus-history-Frequently-asked-questions


Who can participate?

Anyone who will be 18 years old by the date of the presidential election. If you are eligible to vote for president, you're eligible to participate in a caucus.

You must also be a registered Democrat to attend and vote at a Democratic caucuses. Republicans also require you to register with their party to participate and vote. Both parties allow you to register or change your registration at the caucus site. So, for example, a no-party voter could show up, register and participate.

rp08orbust
07-03-2011, 11:17 PM
ChipIn link added to top post.

FriedChicken
07-03-2011, 11:30 PM
Sorry, we couldn't find an event with the
provided ID.

Anyone else seeing this?

rp08orbust
07-03-2011, 11:34 PM
Anyone else seeing this?

Sorry, fixed.

rp08orbust
07-04-2011, 12:07 AM
Update: All robopoll results will be sent to my good friend Steve.

Suzu
07-04-2011, 12:31 AM
Just out of curiosity, if 2,282 calls were answered, how come you got only 163 responses to the poll question? I mean, do that many people actually hang up without taking the poll? If so, why?? And is there another way to reach these folks? Are these numbers typical of phone polls?

rp08orbust
07-04-2011, 12:34 AM
Just out of curiosity, if 2,282 calls were answered, how come you got only 163 responses to the poll question? I mean, do that many people actually hang up without taking the poll? If so, why?? And is there another way to reach these folks? Are these numbers typical of phone polls?

The vast majority of people hang up as soon as they realize that the call is a pre-recorded message.

Suzu
07-04-2011, 12:39 AM
The vast majority of people hang up as soon as they realize that the call is a pre-recorded message.

So why not conduct a poll using real people to ask the question(s)?

sailingaway
07-04-2011, 12:59 AM
Just out of curiosity, if 2,282 calls were answered, how come you got only 163 responses to the poll question? I mean, do that many people actually hang up without taking the poll? If so, why?? And is there another way to reach these folks? Are these numbers typical of phone polls?

I would. I do. I hear a machine and I'm gone. Usually. Now I might be wanting Rasmussen or something, but that is only for Ron's sake. If he weren't running, I wouldn't wait for a machine to talk to me.

rp08orbust
07-04-2011, 01:04 AM
So why not conduct a poll using real people to ask the question(s)?

There are reasons given under "Why Robopolling?" at http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?301333-Iowa-Robopoll-Report-6-30-2011 .

People hang up on human pollsters at almost the same rate they do machines.

Also, robopolling is just plain fast. It would take a huge number of volunteers to dial 2,484 phone numbers during the optimal 7pm-9pm calling window.

sailingaway
07-04-2011, 01:11 AM
I don't let humans poll me either. I just excuse myself before I hang up in that case....

Oh, well, now I get the other side of it with phone banking..... but I don't blame them if they want to get off. And if they like Ron, they won't want to.

parocks
07-04-2011, 02:54 AM
YES! A good victory. Keep up the great work.


Update: All robopoll results will be sent to my good friend Steve.

Sentinelrv
07-04-2011, 03:56 AM
What's being done about the results you got about cell phones identifying 3x more supporters? Has rp2012.org switched to cell phones because of it or no?

rp08orbust
07-04-2011, 04:32 AM
What's being done about the results you got about cell phones identifying 3x more supporters? Has rp2012.org switched to cell phones because of it or no?

I don't think they have switched.

Sentinelrv
07-04-2011, 06:58 AM
I don't think they have switched.

So what was the purpose of the poll then if not to help us better contact supporters, or was the poll not reliable? It doesn't make sense to me if no action is taken based on these findings. We should adjust our strategy to cell phone users if this is the case. I don't really know enough about the situation though to make that call, so I'll leave it up to you guys to make that decision. I'm just saying this based off of what I heard.

rp08orbust
07-04-2011, 07:51 AM
So what was the purpose of the poll then if not to help us better contact supporters, or was the poll not reliable? It doesn't make sense to me if no action is taken based on these findings. We should adjust our strategy to cell phone users if this is the case. I don't really know enough about the situation though to make that call, so I'll leave it up to you guys to make that decision. I'm just saying this based off of what I heard.

Suggest it to tobefree, who is in charge of the phonebanking. He is aware of the results.

Also, it wasn't a separate poll: I took the results of the phonebanking at the time and sorted them by landline vs cell phone.

rp08orbust
07-04-2011, 10:27 AM
Thanks to XTreat and two Swedish donors, I'll be doing $200 worth of robopolling tomorrow from 7pm to 9pm Central. The poll will start with the same demographic (male independents under 40 with cell phones) between 39 miles and 63 miles driving distance from Ames, including Cedar Rapids and Fort Dodge. The rest of the poll will go back to Ames but reverse male to female. I'll also re-call numbers that were not answered during the first sweep of Ames (if they are not answered, I'm not charged for them).

I had forgotten about non-US citizens as a potential source of funding for grassroots projects. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to promote the robopolling among foreign supporters of Ron Paul?

rp08orbust
07-05-2011, 05:26 PM
Bad news: CallFire has failed to call me back today to take my credit card details so that I could add credit to my account. CallFire has an awesome do-it-yourself system with a very nice user interface and is fairly cheap, but I have never done business with anyone who was less eager to take my money! None of my four credit cards work with their online payment system and getting in touch with their one staff person who can take credit card payments over the phone is a nightmare.

The good news is that I will begin using Dynamic Interactive tomorrow instead. Their system is not as streamlined, but they only need one credit card authorization from me, and they appear to be much cheaper ($0.035 per minute instead of $0.05 per minute, billed in 6-second increments instead of minutes). We'll find out tomorrow whether there is any compromise in quality and response rate.

Eric21ND
07-05-2011, 09:25 PM
So are you only doing this in the Ames radius or in other specific regions as well?

XTreat
07-05-2011, 10:19 PM
Hey thanks for the shoutout!

cdc482
07-08-2011, 12:07 PM
rp08orbust,

You should post a tally of total support gotten.