MA - Woman dies in public pool, body remains for two days while people continue to swim.

[Anti Federalist]

WTF?

I don't even know whether to believe this or not.


Body found in public pool 2 days after victim drowned

Updated: Thursday, 30 Jun 2011, 3:06 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 29 Jun 2011, 6:25 AM EDT

http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/woman-dies-in-public-pool-in-fall-river-25-apx-20110629

FALL RIVER (FOX25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - The body of a Fall River woman was discovered floating in a state run pool late Tuesday night, two days after she apparently drowned in that same pool.

Police say lifeguards were on duty and people were swimming in the Veterans Memorial pool at Lafayette Park Sunday, Monday and Tuesday and it appears no one noticed the dead body.

Investigators identified the body as 36-year-old Marie Joseph.

Police say Joseph was watching her 9-year-old neighbor at the pool on Sunday when she apparently had an accident sliding down a waterside.

Family friends tell FOX25 the little boy told lifeguards that she did not come up from above water but no action was taken.

The Bristol County DA would not confirm if the woman’s body was in the water for two days, but did call the set of circumstances "unbelievable" and said the death is still under investigation.

Fall River Mayor William Flanagan says health inspectors visited the pool on Monday and Tuesday and inspected the facilities and apparently did not see a body either. Those inspectors have been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation.

The Department of Conservation and Recreation (DCR), who runs the pool, has since closed over 20 of their deepwater pools until further notice.

DCR has also placed the entire staff of the pool on administrative leave.

According to friends, Marie Joseph has left behind five children and lived in an apartment a mile from the pool.

[muzzled dogg]

sounds about right for mass

[PaulConventionWV]

Jeez that's fucking depressing!

[EvilEngineer]

I'm guessing the government has managed to turn them invisible to most people... seems like they can't even see them when they are right in front of their face.

Ex...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20075400-504083.html


Or... people are just pathetic and stupid and deserve about as much help as these people got.

[Danke]

Maybe she wasn't quite dead yet.

[skyorbit]

Notice they're "state" pools? Also notice the typical. "We're investigating." More bureaucracy on top of bureaucracy. These times of these were the norm in socialist countries. Kind of scary we're that far along here.

[oyarde]

WTF?

I don't even know whether to believe this or not.


Body found in public pool 2 days after victim drowned

Updated: Thursday, 30 Jun 2011, 3:06 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 29 Jun 2011, 6:25 AM EDT

http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/local/woman-dies-in-public-pool-in-fall-river-25-apx-20110629

FALL RIVER (FOX25 / MyFoxBoston.com) - The body of a Fall River woman was discovered floating in a state run pool late Tuesday night, two days after she apparently drowned in that same pool.

Police say lifeguards were on duty and people were swimming in the Veterans Memorial pool at Lafayette Park Sunday, Monday and Tuesday and it appears no one noticed the dead body.

Investigators identified the body as 36-year-old Marie Joseph.

Police say Joseph was watching her 9-year-old neighbor at the pool on Sunday when she apparently had an accident sliding down a waterside.

Family friends tell FOX25 the little boy told lifeguards that she did not come up from above water but no action was taken.

The Bristol County DA would not confirm if the woman’s body was in the water for two days, but did call the set of circumstances "unbelievable" and said the death is still under investigation.

Fall River Mayor William Flanagan says health inspectors visited the pool on Monday and Tuesday and inspected the facilities and apparently did not see a body either. Those inspectors have been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation.

The Department of Conservation and Recreation (DCR), who runs the pool, has since closed over 20 of their deepwater pools until further notice.

DCR has also placed the entire staff of the pool on administrative leave.

According to friends, Marie Joseph has left behind five children and lived in an apartment a mile from the pool.

I know , sounds unbelievable to me . wth ????

[Napoleon's Shadow]

And the government wants to run our healthcare too?!!

No thanks.

[jmdrake]

Police say lifeguards were on duty and people were swimming in the Veterans Memorial pool at Lafayette Park Sunday, Monday and Tuesday and it appears no one noticed the dead body.

Investigators identified the body as 36-year-old Marie Joseph.

Police say Joseph was watching her 9-year-old neighbor at the pool on Sunday when she apparently had an accident sliding down a waterside.

Family friends tell FOX25 the little boy told lifeguards that she did not come up from above water but no action was taken.


If that was a private pool the state would be ready to shut it down and cart the lifeguards off to jail. I smell a wrongful death lawsuit.

[oyarde]

I read it again , to my Mother ( 78 ), I still cannot believe this .......

[AGRP]

If this was a private pool, then you could count on the state shutting it down and seizing all assets.

The local statist paper would call for the owners heads and demand that all pools be turned over to the state for sake of safety.

[Anti Federalist]

Good god, it looks like this story is turning out be true.

WTF kind of water quality would obscure a dead body in a pool full of people for two days?

WTF, over?

Mom: Boy begged Mass. guards to aid sinking woman

http://news.yahoo.com/mom-boy-begged-mass-guards-aid-sinking-woman-151605072.html

FALL RIVER, Mass. (AP) — A 9-year-old boy told two lifeguards that a woman had not resurfaced after entering the murky waters of a public swimming pool and appearing to struggle, his mother said.

The body of 36-year-old Marie Joseph was found in the Veterans Memorial Pool two days later, on Tuesday night. Officials have been investigating how she could have been in the pool for so long without being noticed.

The boy's mother told the Boston Herald for its Sunday edition that the woman had bumped into her son on a pool slide before she disappeared underwater.

"He did tell two lifeguards — one said she was on break, and had to leave and the other told him they were going to do a pool check," the woman told the newspaper. "But he told me they never did."

The Associated Press, which does not report the names of children who may be witnesses to a crime, is not identifying the woman to protect the privacy of her son.

The state Department of Conservation and Recreation is investigating issues related to Joseph's death, including the clarity of the pool water and whether quality protocols were followed. No one has been charged in the drowning.

His mother said her son is undergoing counseling.

The Fall River pool is 12 feet deep and employs 12 staffers, six of whom are lifeguards and are certified by the Red Cross. All six were on duty last Sunday, the Herald reported.

"Those lifeguards need to be fired," the boy's mother told the Herald. "He's stressed out. He keeps crying, and he thinks he could have saved this lady."

The medical examiner's office has labeled the death an accidental drowning.

Commissioner Edward M. Lambert Jr. with the state Department of Conservation and Recreation said they don't know whether any of the lifeguards looked for Lambert.

"We hope to learn that from the investigation," Lambert said. "We are as anxious as anybody to get answers to this."

An initial investigation showed the water in the pool was murky from the time the pool opened for the season last Saturday. Visibility tests conducted Wednesday revealed a diver couldn't be seen at a depth of 3 1/2 to 4 feet below the surface of the water.

Joseph was a hotel housekeeper in Newport, R.I. She was from Haiti and had five children. Her body was discovered after it floated to the surface shortly before some youngsters sneaked into the pool for a clandestine swim Tuesday night.

[Humanae Libertas]

If this was a private pool, rest assure the government & their shills will be lobbying for regulations. Probably mandate swimming insurance on everyone, including state funded swimming lessons.

[ctiger2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7HbbKmnCe0

[TheViper]

She was Haitian so was likely of dark complexion and yet for 2 days was not visible to swimmers until her body floated to the surface? Either she wasn't in the pool for 2 days or that's the murkiest swimming pool ever.

And it's not difficult to test how long a body has been in the water by the level of decomposition and liquid absorption.

[amy31416]

Murky water in a swimming pool? What the hell? Who the hell would get in that, much less let their children in it?

[ronpaulitician]

April 1, right?

[Anti Federalist]

Murky water in a swimming pool? What the hell? Who the hell would get in that, much less let their children in it?

This was supposedly taken the day she died.

Does not look that murky to me...

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/i9C9hacgRFR6MJ60d2zs0Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MjAwMDtjcj0xO2N3PTE1MDI7ZHg9MD tkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTI1MztxPTg1O3c9MTkw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/dcdd177b9490a30ef10e6a706700123e.jpg

[amy31416]

This was supposedly taken the day she died.

Does not look that murky to me...

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/i9C9hacgRFR6MJ60d2zs0Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MjAwMDtjcj0xO2N3PTE1MDI7ZHg9MD tkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTI1MztxPTg1O3c9MTkw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/dcdd177b9490a30ef10e6a706700123e.jpg

Hardly murky, if that's the same pool on the same day. I don't know if that makes things even worse or what...

[angelatc]

When I was a kid we had a similar thing happen at out neighborhood pool. I was so traumatized (not!) that I totally forgot about it until I read this story.

Ours was a kid that drowned, and was in the deep end for a couple of days.

[dannno]

This was supposedly taken the day she died.

Does not look that murky to me...

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/i9C9hacgRFR6MJ60d2zs0Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MjAwMDtjcj0xO2N3PTE1MDI7ZHg9MD tkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTI1MztxPTg1O3c9MTkw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/dcdd177b9490a30ef10e6a706700123e.jpg

Actually that's pretty murky, pool water should look like this:

http://www.chelseapiers.com/sc/images/club/lap-pool-nyc.jpg

http://www.mtascutneyhospital.org/ezstatic/data/mtascutneyhospital/images/a/pool%20exercise.jpg

If she was 10 feet or so down, I could see how she might not be visible... But I've NEVER swam in a pool that was "murky" like that before that I can recall.

[Rael]

She was Haitian so was likely of dark complexion and yet for 2 days was not visible to swimmers until her body floated to the surface? Either she wasn't in the pool for 2 days or that's the murkiest swimming pool ever.

And it's not difficult to test how long a body has been in the water by the level of decomposition and liquid absorption.

That was my first thought. A pale white persons body could blend in with the bottom, but how do you not notice someone of that complexion in the pool?

[TheViper]

This was supposedly taken the day she died.

Does not look that murky to me...

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/i9C9hacgRFR6MJ60d2zs0Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MjAwMDtjcj0xO2N3PTE1MDI7ZHg9MD tkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTI1MztxPTg1O3c9MTkw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/dcdd177b9490a30ef10e6a706700123e.jpg
That's definitely murkier than it should be. I used to build in ground swimming pools and that looks really bad. I would not doubt that you could miss someone laying at the bottom of the 12 foot section. However, the pool should have been closed anyway for horrible water visibility and anytime someone says that someone may have gone under but hasn't come back up should be thoroughly investigated that moment....especially in water that murky.

[amy31416]

When I was a kid we had a similar thing happen at out neighborhood pool. I was so traumatized (not!) that I totally forgot about it until I read this story.

Ours was a kid that drowned, and was in the deep end for a couple of days.

Whaaaaaaaaat?

[Danke]

Whaaaaaaaaat?

Wow, Angela, you even surprise Amy6.28!

[squarepusher]

Wow, Angela, you even surprise Amy6.28!

Amytau?

[Danke]

Amytau?

Amytau.

[Napoleon's Shadow]

I would use the term "cloudy" instead of "murky".

[angelatc]

Whaaaaaaaaat?

I don't remember the details = I was just a kid . Back in those days parents thought nothing of dropping kids off at the pool for the whole day. We walked up to ours - no parents in sight. I assume this kid walked there too, and didn't come home that night. He was missing for a couple of days, then (and my cousin was there when this happened) somebody diving spotted him while they were down there.

[MelissaWV]

This was supposedly taken the day she died.

Does not look that murky to me...

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/i9C9hacgRFR6MJ60d2zs0Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MjAwMDtjcj0xO2N3PTE1MDI7ZHg9MD tkeT0wO2ZpPXVsY3JvcDtoPTI1MztxPTg1O3c9MTkw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/dcdd177b9490a30ef10e6a706700123e.jpg

As others have said, that looks pretty darned murky. I think the "diver tests" are accurate, considering I can't see those folks' legs as more than a slight blur (including the people with darker skin).

[2young2vote]

I guess I am not as surprised that nobody saw her now that I see how cloudy that water is (disgusting, I would never swim in that). I guess the main problem here is the life guards who didn't take action. They are just lazy bums. I was at the Great Wolf Lodge in Michigan and saw the head life guard testing the regular life guards. In between one of the times that they switched (every 30 minutes) he pushed a small, but lifelike, dummy out into the water. Sure enough the lifeguards began chatting when they switched and didn't notice it for several minutes. Some people swimming were actually the ones who first noticed it.

That woman may still be alive if the lifeguards weren't so lazy and took their jobs seriously.

[Fredom101]

I'm not buying it. So this woman plunged to her death and everyone ignored it? What about her family members? What about this kid she was allegedly watching?