Some drastic solutions to solve our problems

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

1) Abolish all property taxes nation wide. Don't worry about it. The people on top went to college so let them work out any financial short falls.
2) While continuing maintenance, freeze all highway and road contruction for five years (If there are no jobs being created in this jobless recovery, there is no reason to build any new roads and freeways. We aren't going any where as a nation, so why build any more roads and highways? Doesn't this action just create more pollution?)
3) Abolish all federal, state, and local taxes placed on gasoline. As there won't be any new freeway and road construction for at least five years, there won't be any need to place a tax on gasoline. Once again, don't worry about it. The people on top went to college so let them work it out.
4) The people need to convene nation wide to cut healthcare insurance from top to bottom from the president of the United States on down. American social communism won't work in this area.
5) At long last, bring the banking system of the United States under the umbrella of American social communism! As the banking system is part of the government, and as it has been the major reason in the past for wars, for inequity, and for human suffering, regulate the pay of those who work in that industry. In the case of the banking industry, the person working at the top shouldn't make that much more than the person working at the bottom. For example, as all the managers might be paid $25,000 a year, the people working at the bottom might be paid $23,000. The people in the middle would be paid 24,000. Make the banks government institutions by taking the money saved and buying the banks from the investors.
Please, don't even try telling me this would ruin the banking industry or wipe out any incentive. As the banking system has never worked, you have no argument in regards to this issue!
Come on America! Let's show the communist world how to correctly implement socialism!
6) Increase the legal work week from forty hours to sixty. As tyranny is nothing more than a permanent vacation from problem solving, we need to do away with all national holidays. If you want to celebrate your holidays, don't burden the rest of us with it! That is your religion!
As the labor unions were at one time on the side of the people, they have now become part of the same tyranny that is against them.

[newyearsrevolution08]

Well those are ideas

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Well those are ideas

Just call me a winner, I guess, but I've always felt that if their going to do it to us improperly anyway, we should just go ahead and roll over and do it improperly to ourselves. You know, they are cooking things up in the limos right now as we speak. Their on the cell phones thinking they are important. So these serious fuckers can get off by themselves to play with their dingalings, they've got lots of things their going to be needing to scheme up. You know, it isn't enough for these bastards to just detroy this nation's posteriety, but their going to be humping the remains of it afterwards.

[heavenlyboy34]

-rep. The solution to the ills of socialism is not more socialism.

[kahless]

1) Abolish all property taxes nation wide. Don't worry about it. The people on top went to college so let them work out any financial short falls.
2) While continuing maintenance, freeze all highway and road contruction for five years (If there are no jobs being created in this jobless recovery, there is no reason to build any new roads and freeways. We aren't going any where as a nation, so why build any more roads and highways? Doesn't this action just create more pollution?)
3) Abolish all federal, state, and local taxes placed on gasoline. As there won't be any new freeway and road construction for at least five years, there won't be any need to place a tax on gasoline. Once again, don't worry about it. The people on top went to college so let them work it out.
4) The people need to convene nation wide to cut healthcare insurance from top to bottom from the president of the United States on down. American social communism won't work in this area.
5) At long last, bring the banking system of the United States under the umbrella of American social communism! As the banking system is part of the government, and as it has been the major reason in the past for wars, for inequity, and for human suffering, regulate the pay of those who work in that industry. In the case of the banking industry, the person working at the top shouldn't make that much more than the person working at the bottom. For example, as all the managers might be paid $25,000 a year, the people working at the bottom might be paid $23,000. The people in the middle would be paid 24,000. Make the banks government institutions by taking the money saved and buying the banks from the investors.
Please, don't even try telling me this would ruin the banking industry or wipe out any incentive. As the banking system has never worked, you have no argument in regards to this issue!
Come on America! Let's show the communist world how to correctly implement socialism!
6) Increase the legal work week from forty hours to sixty. As tyranny is nothing more than a permanent vacation from problem solving, we need to do away with all national holidays. If you want to celebrate your holidays, don't burden the rest of us with it! That is your religion!
As the labor unions were at one time on the side of the people, they have now become part of the same tyranny that is against them.

1. Abolish all property taxes. Good
2. Freeze government spending on new road construction. Good
3. Abolish all taxes on gasoline. Good
4. Cut in health insurance but you do not give a solution. Ron's solutions sound good here, like allowing them to compete across state lines.

You lost me after that.

[newyearsrevolution08]

I am just happy to see differing views that can be discussed. Bummer everything needs to end in a neg rep just due to policy or belief differences. let the neg wars continue just hopefully not in this mans thread.

speak your mind, I like hearing different solutions whether inline with mine or completely opposite AND everything in between.

I wonder how we will win over new supporters if we run around telling them how fucking stupid they are for voting the way they currently are IF it is different from us. Not sure if it would have high conversion ratios BUT hey anythings worth taking a shot at right?

[TCE]

If you replace the "private banking industry" part with "government employees of all levels" making the same amount of $25,000, then I'm on board. There is no reason the CEO of Fannie Mae and/or the head of the FDA should be making six figures or more.

[heavenlyboy34]

I am just happy to see differing views that can be discussed. Bummer everything needs to end in a neg rep just due to policy or belief differences. let the neg wars continue just hopefully not in this mans thread.

speak your mind, I like hearing different solutions whether inline with mine or completely opposite AND everything in between.

I wonder how we will win over new supporters if we run around telling them how fucking stupid they are for voting the way they currently are IF it is different from us. Not sure if it would have high conversion ratios BUT hey anythings worth taking a shot at right?
You're being overly dramatic. Cool down! :) I've had several rather heated debates with UEW, and this is the first -rep I've ever given him.

[Gumba of Liberty]

My Plan:


Evict the IRS
• End Income Taxes
• End Corporate Income Taxes
• End Capital Gains Taxes
• Enact a national sales tax (10%)
• Enact a national import tax (10%)
Reclaim Private Property
• Abolish Property Taxes
• Enforce Private Property laws (ending corporate violations and loopholes)
Bring the Troops Home
• Slash Military Spending in every sector.
• Return Army to Mexican and Canadian Boarders.
• Return Navy to Atlantic and Pacific Coast Lines.
• Bring transparency to the CIA.
Surrender the Drug War
• Remove all federal penalties on controlled substances.
• Allow states to regulate controlled substances.
• Abolish the DEA.
Overhaul Medicaid
• Free-market voucher system for those under 55.
• Create framework for gradual devolution of responsibility to the states.
Overhaul Social Security
• Allow those under 35 to opt out of Social Security.
• Prevent Congress from raiding the Social Security Trust Fund.
• Means Test Social Security.
• Raise Retirement Age to 72.
Expel Federal Educational Spending
• Allow the states to keep their own funds.
• Allow the free people of each state to create their own educational program and curriculum.
End State Subsidies/Unfunded Mandates
• Remove incentives for states to spend what they do not have.
• Remove incentives for states to blindly listen to the federal government.
• Remove unconstitutional mandates from the federal government to offset the missing subsidies.
Cancel the Federal Communications Commission
• Allow individuals, NOT the FCC, to determine what news is.
• Remove all restrictions that prevent competition in the media industry.
Uproot Agricultural Subsidies
• Remove all incentives that reward non-production.
• Remove all incentives that reward one farming sector over another.
• End Federal Surveillance of American Farm Land.
Unplug the Department of Energy
• End the absolute failure that is the DOE.
Repeal Remaining Stimulus
• Prevent the wasting of more than $300 Billion dollars.
Privatize Federal Lands
• Sell federal parks to the states.
• Sell all other federal lands to individuals in 5 acre parcels.
End the Fed’s Monopoly on Currency
• Legalize competing currencies.
• End Legal Tender Laws.
• Take taxes off precious metals.
• Allow private mints to mine and sell their own currencies.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

I am just happy to see differing views that can be discussed. Bummer everything needs to end in a neg rep just due to policy or belief differences. let the neg wars continue just hopefully not in this mans thread.

speak your mind, I like hearing different solutions whether inline with mine or completely opposite AND everything in between.

I wonder how we will win over new supporters if we run around telling them how fucking stupid they are for voting the way they currently are IF it is different from us. Not sure if it would have high conversion ratios BUT hey anythings worth taking a shot at right?

I started this thread as somewhat humorous. There is strategy in it however. I figure the ultimate social communist state will have two kinds of people in it with these being the counterfeiting bankers and the subordinate commoners. So, kill two birds with one stone. Kill communism and the banking industry by concentrating on socializing only that industry and nothing else. In other words, the banking industry has never been and never will be a free enterprise endeavor.

And this is a good lead in to some social commentary:

At one time, teachers only trained the children of the ruling elite. Socrates, in Plato's Meno, argued that the minds of the children of the slaves could be taught to learn if another kind of serving teacher (mid-wife philosopher)
devoted themselves to helping them "recollect" that which their souls had lost during the traumas of their birth.

Therefore, before the time of Socrates, one can argue that training teachers should have been the highest paid elite as they taught all of society how to perform their functions. Problem is, after paying these teachers what they deservered, then their wouldn't have been enough resources left over to afford an advanced society. Therefore, out of necessity, the function of teaching has become a serving endeavor.

This is why elites do all they can to avoid definition. The more a function in society is defined, the less it will be paid. In other words, if a hard look is made into the question of how important each function in society is, we will realize the function of teaching is the most important one.

I'm not advocating regulating wages. I'm advocating doing away with all those tactics the ruling elites use to avoid becoming better defined in society.

I refer to these elites as "The Fleeing Elites."

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

If you replace the "private banking industry" part with "government employees of all levels" making the same amount of $25,000, then I'm on board. There is no reason the CEO of Fannie Mae and/or the head of the FDA should be making six figures or more.

But I'm more interested with marrying the hideous aspect of social communism with the equally hideous aspect of banking. I do apologize for cursing and letting my emotions get out of hand. I too can behave as a serious fucker at times.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

You're being overly dramatic. Cool down! :) I've had several rather heated debates with UEW, and this is the first -rep I've ever given him.

What is a -rep?

[tpreitzel]

Tariffs, tariffs, and more tariffs ... Unfortunately, the country will prosper though with tariffs, not self-destruct despite bogus claims to the contrary. ;)

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

My Plan:


Evict the IRS
• End Income Taxes
• End Corporate Income Taxes
• End Capital Gains Taxes
• Enact a national sales tax (10%)
• Enact a national import tax (10%)
Reclaim Private Property
• Abolish Property Taxes
• Enforce Private Property laws (ending corporate violations and loopholes)
Bring the Troops Home
• Slash Military Spending in every sector.
• Return Army to Mexican and Canadian Boarders.
• Return Navy to Atlantic and Pacific Coast Lines.
• Bring transparency to the CIA.
Surrender the Drug War
• Remove all federal penalties on controlled substances.
• Allow states to regulate controlled substances.
• Abolish the DEA.
Overhaul Medicaid
• Free-market voucher system for those under 55.
• Create framework for gradual devolution of responsibility to the states.
Overhaul Social Security
• Allow those under 35 to opt out of Social Security.
• Prevent Congress from raiding the Social Security Trust Fund.
• Means Test Social Security.
• Raise Retirement Age to 72.
Expel Federal Educational Spending
• Allow the states to keep their own funds.
• Allow the free people of each state to create their own educational program and curriculum.
End State Subsidies/Unfunded Mandates
• Remove incentives for states to spend what they do not have.
• Remove incentives for states to blindly listen to the federal government.
• Remove unconstitutional mandates from the federal government to offset the missing subsidies.
Cancel the Federal Communications Commission
• Allow individuals, NOT the FCC, to determine what news is.
• Remove all restrictions that prevent competition in the media industry.
Uproot Agricultural Subsidies
• Remove all incentives that reward non-production.
• Remove all incentives that reward one farming sector over another.
• End Federal Surveillance of American Farm Land.
Unplug the Department of Energy
• End the absolute failure that is the DOE.
Repeal Remaining Stimulus
• Prevent the wasting of more than $300 Billion dollars.
Privatize Federal Lands
• Sell federal parks to the states.
• Sell all other federal lands to individuals in 5 acre parcels.
End the Fed’s Monopoly on Currency
• Legalize competing currencies.
• End Legal Tender Laws.
• Take taxes off precious metals.
• Allow private mints to mine and sell their own currencies.

I bet you are one of those who, when you go fishing, you don't talk about fishing. You know, you don't send people to Washington to stop Washington spending. No! You don't send anyone. If your going to get off a crack addiction, it has to be painful! Sure, you don't want to kill yourself, but you want to endure as much pain as possible to solve the problem as quickly as possible.
Look, big daddy has been promiscuous in his activities. Drunk on a false power, he's been going down to the third world stripjoints with the other drunken powers of the world where the exploited, starving, and the depraved are paraded around them. To support his waywardness, he has sold his soul spending every last penny. He has even counterfeited to supported this over heated business.
And now the bastard is at the end of his rope!
He is at war with everyone across town (around the world) and in the neighborhood (in the name of drug enforcement).

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Tariffs, tariffs, and more tariffs ... Unfortunately, the country will prosper though with tariffs, not self-destruct despite bogus claims to the contrary. ;)

You know, as having a large variety of international fruits and vegetables on hand encourages people to eat better, higher fuel prices raises the price of food. And while our government is clear across the world getting our noses into other people's business raising the price of fuel even more, the agricultural business here has been neglected to the extent that our food is getting poisoned.

[heavenlyboy34]

What is a -rep?
It's a demerit reputation point. the little star in the lower left of any given post (to the immediate right of "blog this post") allows you to award the post + or -rep.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

It's a demerit reputation point. the little star in the lower left of any given post (to the immediate right of "blog this post") allows you to award the post + or -rep.

"Scream!"

[kahless]

It's a demerit reputation point. the little star in the lower left of any given post (to the immediate right of "blog this post") allows you to award the post + or -rep.

It is not like he was trolling and was stating his belief which you could have debated him on rather than the cheap shot negative rep.

I suspect we are going to get allot of people here soon interested in this movement with differing beliefs. If that is how they are going to be treated rather than be re-educated then we will not be gaining any supporters for Ron and could potentially drive away potential supporters.

[tpreitzel]

It is not like he was trolling and was stating his belief which you could have debated him on rather than the cheap shot negative rep.

I suspect we are going to get allot of people here soon interested in this movement with differing beliefs. If that is how they are going to be treated rather than be re-educated then we will not be gaining any supporters for Ron and could potentially drive away potential supporters.

This reputation system is simply a laughably petty distraction which needs to be axed. It serves absolutely no constructive purpose, but the moderators probably like it because they think it provides a mechanism for the members to settle quarrels among themselves without involving them. It reminds me of the antics and immaturity of high school...LoL ...

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

It is not like he was trolling and was stating his belief which you could have debated him on rather than the cheap shot negative rep.

I suspect we are going to get allot of people here soon interested in this movement with differing beliefs. If that is how they are going to be treated rather than be re-educated then we will not be gaining any supporters for Ron and could potentially drive away potential supporters.

I've been a chess player since the age of nine. Creating utter chaos by checking our banking system with the utilazation of social communism just seemed like the perfect move at the time.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

This reputation system is simply a laughably petty distraction which needs to be axed. It serves absolutely no constructive purpose, but the moderators probably like it because they think it provides a mechanism for the members to settle quarrels among themselves without involving them. It reminds me of the antics and immaturity of high school...LoL ...

When in highschool, my friends and I would stand around looking cool, smoking cigarettes, and bragging about the twelve notches we had etched onto our belts with each mark representing a virgin. Then Barry got a tattoo etched across his arm that read, "TATTOO."

[tpreitzel]

When in highschool, my friends and I would stand around looking cool, smoking cigarettes, and bragging about the twelve notches we had etched onto our belts with each mark representing a virgin. Then Barry got a tattoo etched across his arm that read, "TATTOO."

Too funny. Barry loves his B&W TV!

[heavenlyboy34]

It is not like he was trolling and was stating his belief which you could have debated him on rather than the cheap shot negative rep.

I suspect we are going to get allot of people here soon interested in this movement with differing beliefs. If that is how they are going to be treated rather than be re-educated then we will not be gaining any supporters for Ron and could potentially drive away potential supporters.
I don't feel a need to engage in a long-winded conversation on every point of contention. If I felt this particular point merited a discussion, I would have started one.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

I don't feel a need to engage in a long-winded conversation on every point of contention. If I felt this particular point merited a discussion, I would have started one.

There are many kinds of individuals in life. There are those who know they are smart, those who don't realize they are smart, those who aren't very smart, and those who like to go fishing.