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AdamT
06-20-2011, 03:13 PM
Breaking off from the main thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?285512-Re-cutting-quot-FOR-LIBERTY-quot-to-be-used-as-a-RP-R3V-2012-campaign-tool-View-within), here's the latest version hot off the presses...more less the final version going to the first batch of 10,000 DVDs. Since we have the subtitle file done, there is picture lock...meaning any changes would have to be minor and could not shift the program forward or back within the timecode numbers.

There were 10 pages of critiques and changes we made throughout the main program from the first version we posted (see main thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?285512-Re-cutting-quot-FOR-LIBERTY-quot-to-be-used-as-a-RP-R3V-2012-campaign-tool-View-within)), which should satisfy the majority of people who commented in the thread.

There now is a new ending (Addendum), which starts around 55:50:00, that kind of carries the viewer through the key events following the 2008 campaign, which have pushed our cause forward up through RP's 2012 announcement. I love this new section!

The song in the Addendum is going to be switched out to a song that's being composed for us specifically for the part, with a similar vibe. As soon as that comes in the master is being overnighted to the replicator.

Password: 2012


http://vimeo.com/25365071

Here's the final artwork (click to enlarge).

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff189/adamtro/1094die_for_liberty_recut_final3_sm.jpg (http://forlibertymovie.com/images/1094die_for_liberty_recut_final3.jpg)

angelatc
06-20-2011, 03:16 PM
Cool!!! I needed something to listen to this afternoon!!!

ETA - Dammit. I'm have to remember that I have to keep working while it's on. :)

robpatozz
06-20-2011, 03:52 PM
Great work! Again, you have all outdone yourselves. We will be buying many copies to distribute.

Sentinelrv
06-20-2011, 04:01 PM
Can't wait to watch this!

angelatc
06-20-2011, 04:21 PM
Dan! Our names are in the credits!!!!

Thanks Chris and Corey ! For the rest of today, I get to be cool!!!

dannno
06-20-2011, 04:28 PM
Dan! Our names are in the credits!!!!

Who, me?

RonPaulVolunteer
06-20-2011, 04:37 PM
When will we be able to embed this in Ron Paul Flix?

angelatc
06-20-2011, 04:39 PM
Who, me?

I don't think so, but everybody looks alike on the internet!

AdamT
06-20-2011, 04:41 PM
When will we be able to embed this in Ron Paul Flix?

When we can get the final version rendered out at 720p and uploaded to YT. Right now the delay is a song we're waiting on. We'll probably upload once we get the new site up and have copies available...at least 2 weeks out.

AdamT
06-20-2011, 04:42 PM
Dan! Our names are in the credits!!!!

Thanks Chris and Corey ! For the rest of today, I get to be cool!!!

You're always cool :)

RonPaulVolunteer
06-20-2011, 04:43 PM
When we can get the final version rendered out at 720p and uploaded to YT. Right now the delay is a song we're waiting on. We'll probably upload once we get the new site up and have copies available...at least 2 weeks out.

Awesome, let me know!

hazek
06-20-2011, 04:48 PM
Perfect. (watched the whole thing)

Pheonix
06-20-2011, 04:55 PM
High quality and effective; nearly brought me to tears at a number of points. Do you know what the pricing is going to look like?

dannno
06-20-2011, 04:59 PM
I don't think so, but everybody looks alike on the internet!

Ya i think you meant to say "Damn! Our names are in the credits!" and said "Dan! Our Names our in the credits!"

For someone who barely tolerates my presence here it didn't make sense that you'd word it that way, plus that happens to me a lot in real life.

AdamT
06-20-2011, 05:10 PM
High quality and effective; nearly brought me to tears at a number of points. Do you know what the pricing is going to look like?

Not 100% certain yet, but they will come in packs with a bigger discount as you go up. 10s, 25s, 50s, 100, 250s, 500s, 1000s. On the high end (lower quantity) in the $2.50/ea range, on the low end (higher quantity) we will push them under $.90/ea maybe lower. So a 10 pack might be $25.00. If a Meetup group ordered 1000 it might be $900.

I would like to get some feedback on this. Want them to be really affordable but we have to cover our costs and make a little, which will go back into ordering more copies.

A7sus4
06-20-2011, 05:10 PM
That was excellent, very inspirational.

KramerDSP
06-20-2011, 05:19 PM
Amazing! Thanks for the credit, even though I really didn't do anything but be a pest. I'm going to get quite a few copies and distribute them to friends and family.

Pheonix
06-20-2011, 05:26 PM
Not 100% certain yet, but they will come in packs with a bigger discount as you go up. 10s, 25s, 50s, 100, 250s, 500s, 1000s. On the high end (lower quantity) in the $2.50/ea range, on the low end (higher quantity) we will push them under $.90/ea maybe lower. So a 10 pack might be $25.00. If a Meetup group ordered 1000 it might be $900.

I would like to get some feedback on this. Want them to be really affordable but we have to cover our costs and make a little, which will go back into ordering more copies.

You folks certainly deserve something for this first class effort, so I don't think anyone should be opposed to you charging more than the baseline. As long as you exercise some wisdom by perhaps charging less for groups making a push in key states/regions who are buying bulk, I'd be fine with whatever you charge. Since you're from within the movement, we know that your priority is to help grow the cause more than to make a profit, so you have my full trust!

nayjevin
06-20-2011, 06:05 PM
Not 100% certain yet, but they will come in packs with a bigger discount as you go up. 10s, 25s, 50s, 100, 250s, 500s, 1000s. On the high end (lower quantity) in the $2.50/ea range, on the low end (higher quantity) we will push them under $.90/ea maybe lower. So a 10 pack might be $25.00. If a Meetup group ordered 1000 it might be $900.

I would like to get some feedback on this. Want them to be really affordable but we have to cover our costs and make a little, which will go back into ordering more copies.


You folks certainly deserve something for this first class effort, so I don't think anyone should be opposed to you charging more than the baseline. As long as you exercise some wisdom by perhaps charging less for groups making a push in key states/regions who are buying bulk, I'd be fine with whatever you charge. Since you're from within the movement, we know that your priority is to help grow the cause more than to make a profit, so you have my full trust!

I think the pricing you've stated is good. You guys should certainly make a profit, one that doesn't have to go back to the movement.

Maybe you could put the extra back into ordering more, but have a separate chipin for 'profit for producers'. People could pay you there. I'd help promote that. There might even be folks who would wait and remember to hook you up after the election.

sunny
06-20-2011, 06:07 PM
I have said this before to Chris. And I think it's important.

I don't understand why you guys left out the punch line. The infamous " Just come home. We just marched in. We can just just come home."

I just don't get it. It's like telling a joke without the punch line. Why did you leave it out?

To me it is very frustrating. His answer is part of those questions and his was the best and shows EXACTLY how he feels and you leave it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-DIpkJRDY

AdamT
06-20-2011, 06:26 PM
I have said this before to Chris. And I think it's important.

I don't understand why you guys left out the punch line. The infamous " Just come home. We just marched in. We can just just come home."

I just don't get it. It's like telling a joke without the punch line. Why did you leave it out?

To me it is very frustrating. His answer is part of those questions and his was the best and shows EXACTLY how he feels and you leave it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX-DIpkJRDY

That clip came out because it was part of an Iowa debate section that got cut...that Iowa part (tax rally, debate, straw poll) was just way too long. I wouldn't have a problem adding that little cut back in as a bonus section on the DVD. It's right around 30 seconds long so it would fit no problem. The menu selection could be "Ron Paul on the Iraq war", then that clip would play through. Thoughts?

TheTyke
06-20-2011, 06:41 PM
I absolutely love the original, and I absolutely love the remake as well. It really calls back the feelings from that awesome time.....

There is one thing that stands out to me though... both of them seem to focus a lot on foreign policy. Especially as a tool for the 2012 election, it seems that normal Republicans would be "hooked" by Ron's prescience on the economy and the tea party connection, and might then give the rest of it more of a chance. But I suppose I should have participated in the suggestion thread a while back.

In any case, it's amazing work, and thanks for what you all did!

MJU1983
06-20-2011, 06:52 PM
That was excellent. I enjoyed it very much.

Sentinelrv
06-20-2011, 06:54 PM
Finally finished it! I'm glad you took my suggestion and added the addendum section. Like I said, it really changes the perception that Ron Paul has no chance by showing all the accomplishments of the liberty movement since 2008, especially Ron's straw poll winnings. This will help to change people's beliefs and convey that he has a great chance of winning.

Chieppa1
06-20-2011, 06:55 PM
I fucking LOVE this movie. Oh, and I just let my cousin watch this. He's been following my posting on FB and I just think he's waking up. A young, 18 year old who just graduated high school. Reminds me of myself in 08. I can't stop smiling.

Johnnymac
06-20-2011, 07:29 PM
posted it on f.b hopefully all my brainwashed friends will see this and wake up... probably not but its worth a try

Nate-ForLiberty
06-20-2011, 07:57 PM
Holy f-ing crap!!! That was A MILLION TIMES BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL CUT!! Great tempo all the way through. An hour that passes so fast! Great opening and fantastic!!!!! ending!. The clip with Judge Nap gave me chills and rekindled some hope in my heart that I didn't even realize had died.

Adam, thank you so much for your work. Thank all of those involved in this project for me, too. I think moving 1 million copies of this film is a serious underestimation. What can we do to get this on prime time tv?!?!

.......my god it was soooo good! :D :D :D

truthdivides
06-20-2011, 08:06 PM
This movie is so ridiculously good!

Fractal_Outlook
06-20-2011, 08:10 PM
oops... posted in the old thread...

I'll post it agaaaain!

59:09 (59:04-05 on the in-video timer) has a pretty severe audio edit... almost like it wasn't actually a sentence originally spoken. That's the only thing I noticed though.

Nice work.

AdamT
06-20-2011, 08:21 PM
oops... posted in the old thread...

I'll post it agaaaain!

59:09 (59:04-05 on the in-video timer) has a pretty severe audio edit... almost like it wasn't actually a sentence originally spoken. That's the only thing I noticed though.

Nice work.

Yep, just found that myself. I will smooth that out before the final render.

R3volutionJedi
06-20-2011, 08:22 PM
This is a great doc. I'm sad I missed out last time around, I was 12/13, but still.....
well, now I'm 16 and I will be able to vote at 17 in the primaries, I am pumped for the

Ron Paul
Revolution
2.012

angelatc
06-20-2011, 08:28 PM
That clip came out because it was part of an Iowa debate section that got cut...that Iowa part (tax rally, debate, straw poll) was just way too long. I wouldn't have a problem adding that little cut back in as a bonus section on the DVD. It's right around 30 seconds long so it would fit no problem. The menu selection could be "Ron Paul on the Iraq war", then that clip would play through. Thoughts?

Yes, one of my favorite Ron Paul moments of all time. Can't remember the whole clip though. Might be better if it wasn't necessary to tie it to Iraq.

AdamT
06-20-2011, 08:35 PM
Holy f-ing crap!!! That was A MILLION TIMES BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL CUT!! Great tempo all the way through. An hour that passes so fast! Great opening and fantastic!!!!! ending!. The clip with Judge Nap gave me chills and rekindled some hope in my heart that I didn't even realize had died.

Adam, thank you so much for your work. Thank all of those involved in this project for me, too. I think moving 1 million copies of this film is a serious underestimation. What can we do to get this on prime time tv?!?!

.......my god it was soooo good! :D :D :D

Hell yeah, thanks Nate. That new Judge clip is one of my favorite clips in the entire film now. I was kind of choking up while working on that section haha. One of those golden moments I was able to get on film from CPAC2010. Made the trip from WI out to DC worth it.

smartguy911
06-20-2011, 08:47 PM
man watching the video made my eyes water.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK

ronpaulhawaii
06-20-2011, 10:18 PM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5764/applause.gif
Bravo - Looking forward to sharing widely

:D

Esoteric
06-20-2011, 10:31 PM
Yes! I just might have to watch for the 10th-ish time!

Sentinelrv
06-20-2011, 11:03 PM
I'm also really glad you kept the part in there with the Ron Paul sign burning down. That part really makes me tear up every time. It gives people that "We really just fucked up..." feeling.

speciallyblend
06-21-2011, 12:18 AM
blimpin at 1hr into for liberty. I have goosebumps sniffle and this is helping energize me once again;) and i swear when i can afford a 2012 blimp of some sort . I am buying one and struting it all over colorado!!:) Ron Paul 2012 for the WIN!!! butters my chihuahua approves of this message!

reduen
06-21-2011, 03:43 AM
Man those were the good ole days....! I sure hope we can get that much excitement back up this time. :)

Aldanga
06-21-2011, 04:34 AM
At 29:29-29:30 the clipping sounds a bit loose and unnatural. I know the applause break might make it impossible to clip it any better, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. I'm OCD about audio. :p

Otherwise, totally fantastic. A superb job as always.

AdamT
06-21-2011, 09:20 AM
At 29:29-29:30 the clipping sounds a bit loose and unnatural. I know the applause break might make it impossible to clip it any better, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. I'm OCD about audio. :p

Otherwise, totally fantastic. A superb job as always.

Will check that, thanks.

angelatc
06-21-2011, 09:32 AM
blimpin at 1hr into for liberty. I have goosebumps sniffle and this is helping energize me once again;) and i swear when i can afford a 2012 blimp of some sort . I am buying one and struting it all over colorado!!:) Ron Paul 2012 for the WIN!!! butters my chihuahua approves of this message!

I'm with you, my brother. When both Ron and Rand are sworn in, our blimp should be flying above the White House. ( Of course, it'll be February.....but we're not the type to learn from our mistakes, are we?)

BrendenR
06-21-2011, 09:34 AM
This is amazing. Thanks so much for making this.

speciallyblend
06-21-2011, 01:25 PM
Hell yeah, thanks Nate. That new Judge clip is one of my favorite clips in the entire film now. I was kind of choking up while working on that section haha. One of those golden moments I was able to get on film from CPAC2010. Made the trip from WI out to DC worth it.

i am choking up just reading this thread;)

AdamT
06-21-2011, 04:39 PM
At 29:29-29:30 the clipping sounds a bit loose and unnatural. I know the applause break might make it impossible to clip it any better, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. I'm OCD about audio. :p

Otherwise, totally fantastic. A superb job as always.

Got this fixed.

Romulus
06-23-2011, 04:30 PM
Put me down for 25-50 of them. Please post a new thread when they're available to purchase - thank you!

Eric21ND
06-26-2011, 05:37 PM
The new ending is simply amazing!! Watched the ending like 10 times already!!

sailingaway
06-27-2011, 09:51 PM
That is fantastic. I love the updated part. I so wish we grass roots could get a tent at the Ames straw poll and screen that...

AdamT
06-27-2011, 10:30 PM
The new ending is simply amazing!! Watched the ending like 10 times already!!

Thanks. The ending song is different now as that one was temp and we couldn't get licensing cleared. Slightly different feel now but better in many ways! Will be posting an HD to Youtube soon.

angelatc
06-27-2011, 11:04 PM
That is fantastic. I love the updated part. I so wish we grass roots could get a tent at the Ames straw poll and screen that...

Grass roots? Huckabee won last time, partly because is campaign had an air conditioned tent where people could cool off, relax and listen to his message. This needs to be done like that!

AdamT
06-29-2011, 08:47 PM
This baby is outta here. Copies and a new site soon.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff189/adamtro/Photo2Jun27102558PM.jpg

LibXist
06-29-2011, 08:52 PM
Finally! Can't wait to show my friends.

sailingaway
06-30-2011, 08:04 AM
This is really, really good.

Eric21ND
06-30-2011, 06:41 PM
Is the new cut on youtube yet?

AdamT
07-03-2011, 04:17 PM
Is the new cut on youtube yet?

Soon.

AdamT
07-03-2011, 04:17 PM
New store is up. We are now accepting pre-orders. Should start shipping on or around July 15th.

http://ronpaulfilm.com

Eric21ND
07-03-2011, 04:52 PM
Soon.
Sweet! Let's make it go viral, post it on every forum you frequent people and of course your facebook page!

LibXist
07-03-2011, 05:17 PM
Do I have to buy it in bulk?

AdamT
07-03-2011, 05:24 PM
Do I have to buy it in bulk?

RonPaulSwag.com is going to be selling single copies.

Article V
07-03-2011, 06:03 PM
Much better film. It normalizes Ron Paul for the uninitiated while showing the tremendous support and education behind his movement. Great work!

We can RESTORE AMERICA NOW! RON PAUL 2012!