National Review Online: Ron Paul Wins Another Straw Poll

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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/269993/ron-paul-wins-another-straw-poll-robert-costa#comment-188233

And they offer more information about Huntsman:


Out of 1,542 votes cast, the Texas congressman and libertarian hero earned 618 of them — a decisive 39.7 percent in a field of 10. Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, who cancelled his scheduled appearance here due to a summer cold — and whose aggressive straw vote efforts took place beneath the radar and were rumored to include paying the way of his supporters to New Orleans — was second with 24.8 percent. Michele Bachmann came in third at 12.4 percent.

[AGRP]

I thought Ron Paul was a Republican.

[Cowlesy]

Not predestined for knowledge --- There is a stupid humility that is quite common and when a person is afflicted with it, he is once and for all disqualified for being a disciple of knowledge. As soon as a person of this kind perceives anything striking, he turns as it were on his heel and says to himself: "You have deceived yourself - where have your wits been! This cannot be the truth! " - and then, instead of looking at it and listening to it with more attention, he runs out of the way of the striking object as if intimidated, and seeks to get it out of his head as quickly as possible. For his fundamental rule runs thus: I want to see nothing that contradicts the usual opinion concerning things! Am I created for the purpose of discovering new truths? There are already too many of the old ones."

- Friedrich Nietzsche, The Gay Science. Die fröhliche Wissenschaft.

First published in 1882.

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Check out the 2 retarded comments

[Anti Federalist]

I happen to be registered at NRO

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[Approved commenter] JohnG

06/18/11 22:18

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How about an accurate headline:

"Ron Paul purchases another Straw Poll, before Jon Huntsman can"

Come on, you guys....

Anti Federalist

06/18/11 23:43


@JohnG -

Neither Paul himself or the Paul campaign, in any way provided funds, buses, monetary payment or any other kind of emolument for the people attending SRLC and voting in the straw poll.

It was people paying their own way, paying for their own tickets, that voted Ron Paul number 1 in this poll.

If you have proof otherwise, present it.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

They're going to distort the article, they are going to distort the comments box, simply as is. It's disgusting.

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It is pretty well known he was giving tickets, it was on his web page, and it doesn't mean something since to vote in a real election, it is free. They didn't give student discount tickets this year, I wonder why?

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They're going to distort the article, they are going to distort the comments box, simply as is. It's disgusting.

This article isn't bad. A lot are, but not this one.

[Anti Federalist]

It is pretty well known he was giving tickets, it was on his web page, and it doesn't mean something since to vote in a real election, it is free. They didn't give student discount tickets this year, I wonder why?

Dammit...it was?...shit, so I put my foot in my mouth.

I regret not being on top of that, but I was seeing people complaining about the cost of the tickets.

And I certainly didn't hear about buses and payments.

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Dammit...it was?...shit, so I put my foot in my mouth.

I regret not being on top of that, but I was seeing people complaining about the cost of the tickets.

And I certainly didn't hear about buses and payments.

They didn't bus anyone or pay for lodging or anything. Debbie Hopper jumped onto a thread and said specifically that they had bussed NO ONE, that the GOP there had one bus with a bunch of people the GOP had arranged, and a few of them were Ron Paul supporters, others supported other candidates, but that was none of the campaign's doing.

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The comments there are infuriating

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Drakes Fortune

06/19/11 02:26

People waste so much time on Paul. He's completely unelectable, yet his rabbid, small, core group of supporters garner him a ridiculous amount of press.

On the other, did you see Perry's speech?! Wow. He blew me away. He's my guy now. I haven't had a single other candidate that I've been "for" yet, but I'm for Perry. He has everything. Most importantly he can say to Obama, I have guided the most successful state in the union. 48% of new jobs came from my state, due to my policies. America, if you want what Texas has for the whole country, vote for me.

I don't see how Perry could lose to Obama. If he runs, and wins the Republican nomination, he'll be the next president. My wife, who has been totally unimpressed with the field so far watched that speech, and for once she was excited. You can just tell that he's passionate about his viewpoint, about America, and about conservatism.

Perry is our guy. There isn't a better choice, and I could get excited about supporting him. He's the only guy I feel that way about in this race.

Perry will be the next president. I'm predicting here.
Almost all American presidents are chosen by the ruling class. President Carter was chosen. Obama a first term Senator from Illinois (Chicago style) who spent most of his time in the Senate voting "present" was chosen. Both Bush presidents are obviously high tier elite. The Clinton family ... chosen. All but a couple of American presidents have been chosen by the elitists, and presented to the people as if we had a "choice" with our vote.

Ronald Reagan was not the chosen one, but he was a much more dynamic speaker, so he was pressured to "accept" the "chosen" one (George H.W. Bush) as his vice president. Reagan won by a landslide because he was a captivating speaker ... the entire nation listened to him even though the media hated him.

Ronald Reagan received an important message on day 69 of his first term. He "learned" to compromise his principles. While Ron remained a popular speaker and won his second term in a landslide -- he was a reformed man.

Rick Perry is the chosen one. His record proves that he is already a member of the global elite.

When the powers-that-be say that Ron Paul is unelectable ... they mean "Ron Paul is not the "chosen" one.

He may have to run as a third party ... Spoiler (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?287771) to win. If he does ... so be it. Ron Paul 2012!

[Anti Federalist]

Ron is not part of the accepted debate parameter:

War and socialism or,

Socialism and war.

The chosen ones argue (understanding that even those arguments are merely window dressing anyway) simply over amount of each 49 percent to 51 or vice versa.

That's why all this talk of "behaving" as if somehow we all acted like mush mouthed, pansy assed, choirboys, that all of sudden, "Huzzah!", the establishment would accept our ideas and flock to "our side" is the most ridiculous premises I have ever heard, in my thirty years of political "activism".

We are outside the box, and always will be, because the idea we represent...

(yeah, wow, how very radical and tres chic': "follow the law of the land" :rolleyes: )

...is a death sentence to the established order that runs the entire operation, the media/government/military/surveillance/corporatist complex.

Third party, no party, republican party makes no difference to me, I'm voting Ron Paul 2012.

And that's the only way we're ever going to "win", is by bringing enough people in that are as sick of the established order as most of us are.

It's almost beyond pointless to keep hounding a "base" that is reflected by the man you quoted, that could so easily be swayed by the empty rhetoric of a Rick Perry.

That said, if it's gonna be an empty suit anointed, let it Perry. Romney has a summer place a couple of towns over from where I live.

Between cops, surveillance, SS, air patrols and God knows what else hut hutting about, media circuses, rubberneckers and traffic, life would become untenable around here.



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Almost all American presidents are chosen by the ruling class. President Carter was chosen. Obama a first term Senator from Illinois (Chicago style) who spent most of his time in the Senate voting "present" was chosen. Both Bush presidents are obviously high tier elite. The Clinton family ... chosen. All but a couple of American presidents have been chosen by the elitists, and presented to the people as if we had a "choice" with our vote.

Ronald Reagan was not the chosen one, but he was a much more dynamic speaker, so he was pressured to "accept" the "chosen" one (George H.W. Bush) as his vice president. Reagan won by a landslide because he was a captivating speaker ... the entire nation listened to him even though the media hated him.

Ronald Reagan received an important message on day 69 of his first term. He "learned" to compromise his principles. While Ron remained a popular speaker and won his second term in a landslide -- he was a reformed man.

Rick Perry is the chosen one. His record proves that he is already a member of the global elite.

When the powers-that-be say that Ron Paul is unelectable ... they mean "Ron Paul is not the "chosen" one.

He may have to run as a third party ... Spoiler (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?287771) to win. If he does ... so be it. Ron Paul 2012!

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Perry's not going anywhere. His own state hates him, and only the establishment thinks he has tea party cred.