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Anti Federalist
06-17-2011, 04:26 PM
A little convoluted to follow this, but here's the thumbnail:

The feds and Anne Arundel county cops set up a fake payment processing center for gambling websites.

They then seized the gambling websites and the money.

When players tried to collect, they were told "tough shit, go see the poker site that you bet on", which, of course, was already shut down and defunct, by the feds.

Anne Arundel's "share" of the extortion racket netted $470,000, which I'm sure will be used to buy more APCs, machine guns and SWAT toys, to bust up...more poker games.

SWAT raids on poker games:

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/11/another_poker_game_raided_by_s.php

http://www.theagitator.com/2007/04/20/tales-of-a-dallas-poker-raid/

http://reason.com/blog/2010/11/05/poker-raid-turns-into-gunfight

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-02-16/news/bs-md-co-poker-game-bust-20110216_1_poker-game-illegal-gambling-operation-baltimore-county-police



Police Celebrate Seized Online Gambling Funds

http://www.openmarket.org/2011/06/13/police-celebrate-seized-online-gambling-funds/

Roughly one week ago, an article appeared in The Odenton Patch covering an Anne Arundel County Police Department press conference where our benevolent ruling class is seen gleefully celebrating their “reward” in assisting a federal investigation which seized over $30 million dollars in internet gambling funds. They even ordered a giant Tiger Woods sized check for a photo-op. Note that though the operation was named “Operation Texas Hold’em,” it is unrelated to the recent crackdown on online poker sites such as Full Tilt and Poker Stars.

The gist of the story is that the police force set up their own online payment processor and processed payments for internet gambling sites as if they were a real legitimate business. The federal government used this evidence to seize funds belonging to those companies. If you visit the website of their now defunct business, they attempt to direct your outrage to the gambling sites:

NOTICE

Linwood Payment Solutions is a Department of Homeland Security Undercover Business set up to identify and prosecute companies accepting and paying out funds for U.S. customers who gamble online illegally.

If you have questions regarding funds withdrawn from your bank account for gambling purposes contact the online gambling company you provided your banking information to.

They begin by seizing roughly $30 million in funds, a large majority of which belonged to American citizens engaged in a private activity within the confines of their home. Then they shut the website down and encouraged Americans to contact the gambling website to see if they can get their funds back. These are the same businesses that were just shut down and lost access to their website, capital, payment processing services, and are dealing with serious criminal charges. There is absolutely no chance that they will be able to pay back the money that belonged to American citizens, some of which is now in the hands of the Anne Arundel County Police Department:

Police said they would use the money for equipment to assist with undercover investigations, plus new vehicles and weapons.

Apologies to the Americans who won’t be receiving the money they deposited via a fake business the government set up, but fear not as they’re going to be buying lots of shiny new police toys with your money. This is yet another way in which horrid police activity fuels itself (much more about that here). The police received monetary rewards for disrupting the lives of innocent people and are using that money to buy fancy new equipment which they will use to harass even more private American citizens engaged in activities that some bureaucrat finds distasteful.

The original article showed up on a popular online poker web forum and individuals from across the world began expressing their disapproval in the comments section. As one online commentator aptly described the situation: “This is disgusting. Their smug faces make me wanna puke.” Another wrote: “So they have taken money that belongs to American citizens. That’s stealing! We should inform the police, oh wait…” The large number of comments prompted the author to write a follow up article, published yesterday. Here is the meat:

To online gamblers and poker players in particular, the seizure and distribution of the funds was the equivalent of a theft.

“What upset me so much was the seizure of those funds and it not being facilitated to get the funds back to the players,” said Bill Sutton, a restaurant manager from Edgewater, who lost $1,000 when a poker site was shut down by the federal government.

Sutton’s money was tied up with Full Tilt Poker, a top online poker site that was shut down in a federal action separate from the one involving Anne Arundel County. But he said he was angered that law enforcement officials appeared to have no plans to work with site operators to return funds to players, who were not the target of the investigation.

“I understand it was a big score for them, and it was a lot of work for them to do it,” he said. “The thing that upset me the most was that they are taking funds from players when it has not been deemed illegal.”

The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Baltimore said it had no plans to give money back.

“Illegal gambling proceeds are forfeited to the government,” spokeswoman Vickie E. LeDuc said. “Anyone who believes that an Internet gambling business owes them money can try to collect from the Internet gambling business. The government is not going to give the money to gamblers.”

Legal experts said the distribution of seized money is not unprecedented, but that it’s rare for a local department to hold a press conference and photo op.

Oops, just kidding. There will be no apologies from the U.S. Attorney’s Office, or really, anyone in a position to actually stop this type of noxious behavior.

The decision to go after gambling operations has had devastating consequences. Earlier this year the state of Virginia agreed to pay a family $2 million after an unarmed man was killed during a investigation into money being wagered on sports.

dannno
06-17-2011, 04:34 PM
Band of thieves.

Pericles
06-17-2011, 04:37 PM
Maryland may be socialist hell hole #4 after California, NY, and NJ.

Wesker1982
06-17-2011, 04:41 PM
Band of thieves.

A bandit gang writ large

AGRP
06-17-2011, 04:47 PM
Can we set up fake police agencies to catch unlawful police departments?

tangent4ronpaul
06-17-2011, 05:28 PM
Linwood Payment Solutions is a Department of Homeland Security Undercover Business set up to identify and prosecute companies accepting and paying out funds for U.S. customers who gamble online illegally.


What does this have to do with "Homeland Security"?

Anybody have a link to their charter? Isn't their mission supposed to be protecting the country from foreign attack?

pcosmar
06-17-2011, 05:38 PM
What does this have to do with "Homeland Security"?

Anybody have a link to their charter? Isn't their mission supposed to be protecting the country from foreign attack?

Hahaha!

You believed that shit?

LibForestPaul
06-17-2011, 05:46 PM
I must have missed the memo...
when did Internet gambling become illegal?
I remember plenty of sites a few years ago advertising even on TV...

heavenlyboy34
06-17-2011, 06:06 PM
Hahaha!

You believed that shit?
this ^^

heavenlyboy34
06-17-2011, 06:08 PM
Band of thieves.

writ large, +a bunch

heavenlyboy34
06-17-2011, 06:09 PM
I must have missed the memo...
when did Internet gambling become illegal?
I remember plenty of sites a few years ago advertising even on TV...
I don't know exactly when, but I've heard stories about "illegal online gambling" in the news occasionally for the past 2-3 years.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
06-17-2011, 06:22 PM
I suspect they're clearing out the business so the US can move into it.

Anti Federalist
06-17-2011, 06:28 PM
I suspect they're clearing out the business so the US can move into it.

Yeah, great... real life versions of these guys, with badges.

http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/casino.jpg

http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/goodfellasn.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/TheSopranos4life90/Sopranos.jpg

Austrian Econ Disciple
06-17-2011, 06:30 PM
This is such a fucking joke. Gambling and lotteries are one of the most blatantly sick twisted double-standard bullshit money-grubbing fuck you up the ass criminal rings the Government runs. Oh, the GOVERNMENT can sell you gambling and lottery shit and make a fortune to continue running their rackets, but if YOU choose to operate some gambling games or otherwise they'll come arrest you and throw you in State-pound you in the ass Prison and confiscate all your property and then use that to further aggrandize itself. ITS LUNACY. My god. Makes me so mad. It would be as if tomorrow they outlawed tobacco for everyone to grow or produce, but the State runs huge 50 acre tobacco farms on its stolen property and then sells it to you at ridiculous inflated prices because they are a fucking MONOPOLY and you have no choice in the matter, and then what is worst is how hypocritical it all is because the Government then goes after people like Standard Oil, Microsoft, or other non-monopolistic enterprise for so-called anti-trust monopoly! UGHHHHHHH.

Dr.3D
06-17-2011, 06:32 PM
And all the while they keep saying they are creating jobs. Looks more like they are killing the gambling jobs and replacing them with "law enforcement" jobs.

Anti Federalist
06-17-2011, 06:34 PM
And all the while they keep saying they are creating jobs. Looks more like they are killing the gambling jobs and replacing them with "law enforcement" jobs.

There will be only two jobs in the future for the Mundane Class:

1) - Guard

2) - Convict

Dr.3D
06-17-2011, 06:37 PM
There will be only two jobs in the future for the Mundane Class:

1) - Guard

2) - Convict
Sure looks that way.

Problem is, I'll bet they haven't figure out how to get the convicts to pay for the guards.

Ehhh.... give em time and they probably will.

Edit:
Come to think about it, how high would the unemployment rate be if they released all of the prisoners from prison?

Anti Federalist
06-17-2011, 06:40 PM
Sure looks that way.

Problem is, I'll bet they haven't figure out how to get the convicts to pay for the guards.

Ehhh.... give em time and they probably will.

Profits from the weapons systems that slave/convict labor will build.


Prisoners Help Build Patriot Missiles

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/prisoners-help-build-patriot-missiles/

March 8, 2011

This spring, the United Arab Emirates is expected to close a deal for $7 billion dollars’ worth of American arms. Nearly half of the cash will be spent on Patriot missiles, which cost as much as $5.9 million apiece.

But what makes those eye-popping sums even more shocking is that some of the workers manufacturing parts for those Patriot missiles are prisoners, earning as little as 23 cents an hour.

Dr.3D
06-17-2011, 06:57 PM
Profits from the weapons systems that slave/convict labor will build.


Prisoners Help Build Patriot Missiles

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/prisoners-help-build-patriot-missiles/

March 8, 2011

This spring, the United Arab Emirates is expected to close a deal for $7 billion dollars’ worth of American arms. Nearly half of the cash will be spent on Patriot missiles, which cost as much as $5.9 million apiece.

But what makes those eye-popping sums even more shocking is that some of the workers manufacturing parts for those Patriot missiles are prisoners, earning as little as 23 cents an hour.

Well, the U.S. has the shit stirred up enough in that region, they will be able to sell arms for decades there.

KevinR
06-17-2011, 07:49 PM
I live in AA county MD... :(

gerryb
06-17-2011, 09:24 PM
I live in AA county MD... :(

Elect a new sheriff.

Anti Federalist
06-17-2011, 11:30 PM
Edit:
Come to think about it, how high would the unemployment rate be if they released all of the prisoners from prison?

Let's see, there are 2.3 million people in prison in the US. (That's 25 percent of the entire world's prison population. The US is 5 percent of world population)

Let's assume, that roughly 40 percent of them are non violent or innocent, and release 1 million.

ETA - I had to rework the numbers WRT unemployment, they were way off. I still stand by the CT though. And the bleak picture for young black males.

Now, considering that the system has now just about made it impossible for a convict to ever work again, let's say that would increase unemployment by a million.

The current, (bogus) UR is hovering around 9 percent with about 13.9 million people out of work.

If you added another million to that number you'd have an UR of roughly 9.7 percent.

14.9 million (total unemployed for May 2011 + 1 million released prisoners) is 9.694 percent of 153.7 million (total US workforce for May 2011)

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

WARNING WARNING WARNING - Unconfirmed Conspiracy Theory coming up!

That is why the system is locking people up left and right, and why my nightmare vision of the near future is not far fetched.

Hell, for young, black, males, that future is already here.

AFPVet
06-17-2011, 11:48 PM
Let's see, there are 2.3 million people in prison in the US. (That's 25 percent of the entire world's prison population. The US is 5 percent of world population)

Let's assume, that roughly 40 percent of them are non violent or innocent, and release 1 million.

Now, considering that the system has now just about made it impossible for a convict to ever work again, let's say that would increase unemployment by a million.

IIRC the current, (bogus) UR is hovering around 9 percent with, again, IIRC, about 440,000 people out of work and actively seeking work.

If you added another million to that number you'd have an UR of roughly 25 percent.

That's a number where revolution starts to take place.

WARNING WARNING WARNING - Unconfirmed Conspiracy Theory coming up!

And that is why the system is locking people up left and right, and why my nightmare vision of the near future is not far fetched.

Hell, for young, black, males, that future is already here.

Dude... you have to listen to System Of A Down! SOAD, Rage Against the Machine and Megadeth are serious liberty groups!

Anti Federalist
06-18-2011, 11:32 AM
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angelatc
06-18-2011, 11:55 AM
What does this have to do with "Homeland Security"?

Anybody have a link to their charter? Isn't their mission supposed to be protecting the country from foreign attack?

NO, I think they were supposed to be the agency that coordinated information and efforts between all the other agencies.

Dr.3D
06-18-2011, 12:05 PM
Edit:
Come to think about it, how high would the unemployment rate be if they released all of the prisoners from prison?

Wait a minute..... if none of them were eligible for unemployment benefits, wouldn't that mean they wouldn't be counted as unemployed?

Isn't that how they fudge the numbers now? They only count those who are on unemployment benefits and thus when those people run out of benefits, they are no longer unemployed? Pretty soon, when every unemployed person has run out of benefits, there will be no unemployment.