Tenn. law bans posting images that "cause emotional distress"

[Americann]

A new Tennessee law makes it a crime to "transmit or display an image" online that is likely to "frighten, intimidate or cause emotional distress" to someone who sees it. Violations can get you almost a year in jail time or up to $2500 in fines.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/06/tenn-law-bans-posting-images-that-cause-emotional-distress.ars

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

the 2girls1cup guys better take their site down, quick.

[Anti Federalist]

a crime to "transmit or display an image" online that is likely to "frighten, intimidate or cause emotional distress"

inb4lock

http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/2809.jpg

http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/2814.jpg

http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/2812.jpg

[Americann]

I get emotionally distressed and frightened when I get a bill.

[aGameOfThrones]

Obama care...

http://www.essence.com/images/mt/obama-health_care_reform_signing.jpg

Patriot act...

http://www.greatdreams.com/political/bush-signs-laws.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

That's some scary pictures there ^^^^

[Americann]

That's some scary pictures there ^^^^
So posting Obama's image should be a crime?

[dannno]

I posted this yesterday, worth posting again tho for those who didn't see it, I forgot to bump it today.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?297548-Internet-Trolling-Illegal-In-Tennessee

[Anti Federalist]

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1875/lpdswat21130200644750pmjh9.jpg

[heavenlyboy34]

That's some scary pictures there ^^^^
qft!! :eek:

[Anti Federalist]

So posting Obama's image should be a crime?

Welcome to the forums.

Clarify your question and I'll answer it.

[aGameOfThrones]

Welcome to the forums.

Clarify your question and I'll answer it.


I think the person didn't get my post. The picture of signing Obama care and the patriot act are frighting to me going by the law.

[Anti Federalist]

I think the person didn't get my post. The picture of signing Obama care and the patriot act are frighting to me going by the law.

I'm thinking the same thing, but I'm curious to see how they will respond.

[Americann]

Welcome to the forums. Clarify your question and I'll answer it.
Because of Obama's policies, millions of people in America and the world get angry when they see Obama in media and in person which leads to emotional stress. These people cannot do anything since Obama is the world's most powerful man and they suffer internally and they have health problems.

[dannno]

Because of Obama's policies, millions of people in America and the world get angry when they see Obama in media and in person which leads to emotional stress. These people cannot do anything since Obama is the world's most powerful man and they suffer internally and they have health problems.

Cool story bro.

However Obama isn't the most powerful man by any stretch of the imagination, he is a puppet.

[aGameOfThrones]

Because of Obama's policies, millions of people in America and the world get angry when they see Obama in media and in person which leads to emotional stress. These people cannot do anything since Obama is the world's most powerful man and they suffer internally and they have health problems.


Hence Obama care. :p

[Chester Copperpot]

the 2girls1cup guys better take their site down, quick.

Thats just chocolate frosting

[Americann]

Cool story bro. However Obama isn't the most powerful man by any stretch of the imagination, he is a puppet.
I had read in Ronpaulforums that a wrestler or fighter had challenged Obama for a wrestling match. Secret service visited this wrestler's house. People are not allowed to take of their frustration and anger. If someday somebody throws a shoe on world leaders then the person will be arrested. Shoe cannot kill anybody.

[amy31416]

I had read in Ronpaulforums that a wrestler or fighter had challenged Obama for a wrestling match. Secret service visited this wrestler's house. People are not allowed to take of their frustration and anger. If someday somebody throws a shoe on world leaders then the person will be arrested. Shoe cannot kill anybody.


Not true. These could kill either the wearer or a person they're thrown at:

http://www.designboom.com/cms/images/-andy/car1.jpg

[UtahApocalypse]

Obama care...

http://www.essence.com/images/mt/obama-health_care_reform_signing.jpg

Patriot act...


http://www.greatdreams.com/political/bush-signs-laws.jpg

Wish I lived in Tennessee.

[Americann]

Not true. These could kill either the wearer or a person they're thrown at:
If the shoe miss the target then also the person is arrested. Why? It is near impossible to get a direct hit from a shoe because of the shoe aerodynamics/shape.

[awake]

This law is much like the hate laws: designed for certain privileged people to use against certain un-privileged people.

[CaliforniaMom]

So I guess Tenn. never heard of the 1st amendment.

[low preference guy]

So I guess Tenn. never heard of the 1st amendment.

let me nitpick and say that Tenn. legislators never heard of the 1st amendment.

[Anti Federalist]

LoL, hello yet again, Fire11.

[Anti Federalist]

Not true. These could kill either the wearer or a person they're thrown at:

http://www.designboom.com/cms/images/-andy/car1.jpg

I'd pay to see Mrs AF in those...LoL

[low preference guy]

I'd pay to see Mrs AF in those...LoL

i'd pay to see any hot chick in those as well

[UtahApocalypse]

Do we have any Tennessee persons on this board? a Lawyer also.....

plan cooking in my head.

[aGameOfThrones]

Do we have any Tennessee persons on this board? a Lawyer also.....

plan cooking in my head.

---> :collins:

[dannno]

Do we have any Tennessee persons on this board? a Lawyer also.....

plan cooking in my head.

Who in TN do you want Matt Collins to help prosecute and for what?

[Americann]

Hence Obama care. :p
There is no Obama care for poor country people. Millions of international people get angry when they see Obama in media. Obama policies have resulted into high inflation in many countries. World people are suffering because of illegal bail-outs.

[amy31416]

There is no Obama care for poor country people. Millions of international people get angry when they see Obama in media. Obama policies have resulted into high inflation in many countries. World people are suffering because of illegal bail-outs.

How do you feel about Hindus? Just curious.

[aGameOfThrones]

There is no Obama care for poor country people. Millions of international people get angry when they see Obama in media. Obama policies have resulted into high inflation in many countries. World people are suffering because of illegal bail-outs.


I'm sorry, but you deserve this.

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[amy31416]

I'd pay to see Mrs AF in those...LoL

You certainly would. :p

[Yieu]

LoL, hello yet again, Fire11.

How do you feel about Hindus? Just curious.

Haha, I was just skimming through his posts to see if anyone called Fire11 out yet... he was being a bit more subtle so I thought I might call him out first.

Anyway, hello Fire11.

[Kenny Tan]

Created a page for people to coordinate efforts to fight this new legislation. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_129564287123983

[Matt Collins]

The author of the bill spoke about this at a recent town hall meeting:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzdMDIdfQiQ&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOMJBlpcUkg&fmt=18

Apparently a lot of YAL and CFL guys were there to ask him questions...

[UWDude]

Incredibly graphic images can be incredibly powerful. It is a visceral reaction in a person to feel threatened by a violent scene, and immediately hate or want to fight the person inflicting the violence, as witnessed recently in the Vancouver riot videos, where every body felt bad for the kid who got knocked out, only to later have many change their mind after seeing he was a prime vandalizer.

Major news networks never show blood or somebody dying, but they made an exception for Neda Agha Sultan, who was shot in the neck by Iranian paramilitaries during the green revolution. Make no mistake, that this "one time" release of an incredibly graphic and bloody snuff video released upon the American psyche was part of the campaign to whip Americans into Iranian hatred.

Now we see Tennessee trying to control who can, and cannot use this potent psychological weapon. A court case could make this acceptable, and not covered under the first amendment, so that the Federal government could ban incredibly graphic videos and images. We all know the power of the media, and how they can take anything, make it into a major issue, and then provide a solution that always seems to mean one more piece torn from the constitution.

The point is, this is more than just trying to keep people from posting gory photos. It is an attempt to give the state a monopoly on posting and broadcasting gory photos and videos, and it is incredibly dangerous.

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

The author of the bill spoke about this at a recent town hall meeting:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzdMDIdfQiQ&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOMJBlpcUkg&fmt=18

Apparently a lot of YAL and CFL guys were there to ask him questions...

If I had to define 'Irony', it would be sitting in front of a board that says 'Faith, Character & the Constitution' having advocated for a bill that basically brings back The Alien & Sedition Act.

[PaulConventionWV]

The author of the bill spoke about this at a recent town hall meeting:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzdMDIdfQiQ&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOMJBlpcUkg&fmt=18

Apparently a lot of YAL and CFL guys were there to ask him questions...

That guy has the mental capacity of a box of rocks.

[My First Name Is Paul]

let me nitpick and say that Tenn. legislators never heard of the 1st amendment.


So I guess Tenn. never heard of the 1st amendment.

Or maybe they did. Let us now open our Constitutions and read from Bill of Rights, Amendment I: "Congress shall make no law..."

[teacherone]

my lawyer said it didn't limit free speech... we were told.... blarghghgh

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

Or maybe they did. Let us now open our Constitutions and read from Bill of Rights, Amendment I: "Congress shall make no law..."

Umm, yea, you forgot one important one:

"No State shall....pass any ex post facto Law...."

[Napoleon's Shadow]

That guy has the mental capacity of a box of rocks.
You obviously haven't met most of your elected officials

[My First Name Is Paul]

Umm, yea, you forgot one important one:

"No State shall....pass any ex post facto Law...."

The law is retroactive? And even if it is, how does that affect the first amendment?

[Danke]

inb4lock

http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/2809.jpg

http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/2814.jpg

http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/2812.jpg

Criminal. Be glad you don't live in TN. What about Matt and all the photos of himself and dancing? Oh, noes!

[devil21]

The law is retroactive? And even if it is, how does that affect the first amendment?

Ugh.

Tennessee has it's own state Constitution which guarantees freedom of speech. This is in addition to the incorporation of the US Constitution First Amendment freedom of speech through the 14th Amendment to the States.

Please read: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_doctrine_of_incorporation_under_the_Fo urteenth_Amendment

[My First Name Is Paul]

Ugh.

Tennessee has it's own state Constitution which guarantees freedom of speech. This is in addition to the incorporation of the US Constitution First Amendment freedom of speech through the 14th Amendment to the States.

Well, if they're violating the state constitution that's one thing, but the incorporation clause affecting the 1st amendment is an invention of the Supreme Court. The purpose of the amendment is to give rights to freedmen, not alter the entire constitution. Raoul Berger's Government by Judiciary is usually considered the definitive work on this topic.

[Dr.3D]

The cause of emotional distress is vague to say the least. I could be emotionally distressed if someone posted a picture of a spider and I happened to be afraid of spiders.

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

Well, if they're violating the state constitution that's one thing, but the incorporation clause affecting the 1st amendment is an invention of the Supreme Court.

Which is why I used Article 1, Section 10 instead of the 1st Amendment. The States are not allowed to make illegal today what was perfectly legal yesterday (which is the actual definition of ex post facto).

[My First Name Is Paul]

Which is why I used Article 1, Section 10 instead of the 1st Amendment. The States are not allowed to make illegal today what was perfectly legal yesterday (which is the actual definition of ex post facto).

Can you please cite a source? Kevin Gutzman's Politically Incorrect Guide To The Constitution (http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Constitution-Guides/dp/1596985054) states the definition of ex post facto law as:
A law passed after the commission of an act to change the act's legal consequences. Generally, the term refers to retroactive criminalization or heightening of a criminal penalty.This jives with the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law).

[pcosmar]

Is Tennessee planing to separate their Internet access from the WWW???
How do they plan on enforcing this outside their jurisdiction?
Drone Strikes?

[Brooklyn Red Leg]

Can you please cite a source? Kevin Gutzman's Politically Incorrect Guide To The Constitution (http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Constitution-Guides/dp/1596985054) states the definition of ex post facto law as: This jives with the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law).

Except that view is based on Calder v. Bull. Its not based on any rational interpretation of what ex post facto means but instead of giving The State the power to actually make ex post facto law and get away with it. A retroactive punishment would be a violation of the 8th Amendment.

[My First Name Is Paul]

Except that view is based on Calder v. Bull. Its not based on any rational interpretation of what ex post facto means but instead of giving The State the power to actually make ex post facto law and get away with it. A retroactive punishment would be a violation of the 8th Amendment.

Please cite your source.

[ctiger2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t-m98ErmoQ

[Brian4Liberty]

But you can't ban those images if they are in a video game!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?300661-US-Supreme-Court-California-can-t-ban-violent-video-game-sales-to-children

[Danke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t-m98ErmoQ

That guy is great.

[amy31416]

That guy is great.

He really is. One of my favorites on the YouTube.

[Kade]

Why was Americann banned?

[Dr.3D]

Why was Americann banned?

Ehhh... I believe it may have been because they thought he was Fire11. Not sure though.

[pcosmar]

Why was Americann banned?
Just guessing,,Because it is a new name of an often banned troll.

don't worry, will likely be back with a new name and some inane bullshit.
Very persistent.

Ehhh... I believe it may have been because they thought he was Fire11. Not sure though.
Possibly, seems to share some of the same style.

[Slutter McGee]

Good intentions. I certainly understand why they passed this. Cyber bullying. But it opens the door for so much goddamn potential abuse of our liberties, and is blatantly unconstitutional.

Reminds me of the CS Lewis quote. Ya'll know the one.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[angelatc]

He really is. One of my favorites on the YouTube.

I have never seen him before. He's hysterical.