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BamaAla
06-09-2011, 12:32 PM
New study says New Hampshire and South Dakota are the freest states; meanwhile, New York and New Jersey are the least free.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hampshire-south-dakota-ranked-free-states/story?id=13791773


Live free or die? New Hampshire may be on to something, according to researchers at George Mason University's Mercatus Center.

They used a variety of statistics to rank the 50 states for their just-published report on which states are the freest -- and least free -- from taxes and government regulation.

Their horserace has ranked New York as the "least free state in the Union" followed by neighboring New Jersey. New Hampshire and South Dakota were in a virtual tie for most "free" state. ...

Anti Federalist
06-09-2011, 12:45 PM
Freedom is also good for you health.

NH ranks six in greatest life expectancy by state.

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/longevity/


Good for your personal safety:

NH has lowest US violent crime rate:

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nhcrime.htm


Good for your economic well being:

NH has third lowest unemployment rate nationwide.

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm


Freedom works, it's good for your body, mind, soul and bank account, statism kills, physically and psychologically.

It's no more difficult than that.

Sentient Void
06-09-2011, 12:54 PM
God damnitt I can't wait to move to NH.

High fucking property taxes though. But that's bout it. The benefits farrr outweigh this (no income tax, no sales tax, no capital gains tax, etc).

Anti Federalist
06-09-2011, 12:58 PM
God damnitt I can't wait to move to NH.

High fucking property taxes though. But that's bout it. The benefits farrr outweigh this (no income tax, no sales tax, no capital gains tax, etc).

Search closely my brother.

NH property taxes can vary widely by town. http://www.nh.gov/revenue/munc_prop/2010PropertyTaxRatesRelatedData.htm

Mine just went down, again, for the fourth year in a row.

And for what I have, land and home, I guarantee I'm paying half of what you would be in Mass. especially in the Boston area.

BamaAla
06-09-2011, 01:03 PM
God damnitt I can't wait to move to NH.

High fucking property taxes though. But that's bout it. The benefits farrr outweigh this (no income tax, no sales tax, no capital gains tax, etc).

I'm sure this new immigration law will destroy my business. When it does, I'm heading that way.

kahless
06-09-2011, 01:08 PM
New study says New Hampshire and South Dakota are the freest states; meanwhile, New York and New Jersey are the least free.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hampshire-south-dakota-ranked-free-states/story?id=13791773

I live in NY in the burbs and travel in rural parts of the state also. I can say first hand that it is a police state here. You cannot go anywhere, even a hike in the woods or throwing a line in along the Hudson river without the police looking over your shoulder. There is so many police wherever you turn it is like they are a standing army. Despite the reputation NYC gets, the suburban and rural areas I speak of there is not much crime or anything for the police to do to warrant such a heavy presence. DWI road blocks are common. One weekend I went through 5 different road blocks.

We also have the highest property taxes in US and the world. So no one really owns property here. For example you can expect to find the lower Hudson Valley homeowners charged on average a $1000 a month or more in property taxes. Much of this is for the public schools of course in this Democratic party dominated state. We have the highest paid teachers in the country and some of the schools are like palaces. There are several Socialists parties that run the same candidates as the Democrat party and you have the Republican party which is about as Socialist. There is a Conservative party that essentially runs the same Socialists that the Republicans do. The Conservative party also has some scary authoritarian police state stuff in their platform.

Despite NY having a reputation of being very liberal it is really only the politics of NYC, Albany and Buffalo that ruins the state. Immigration plays a huge role in keeping the state Democratic. Probably a little bit of voter fraud going on to boot. I and my friends have seen the fraud first hand with being switched to the Democrat against our will and having to complain to the board of elections.

Keith and stuff
06-09-2011, 01:52 PM
The actual report is here, http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011 It includes information about all 50 states, a video, a ranking list and even a pdf version of the publication.

And NH is getting freer this year with several pro-liberty bills having already passed:
NH passes HB 544 the Knife Preemption Law http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?297628-NH-passes-HB-544-the-Knife-Preemption-Law
NH House passes HB 651 to relegalize Quaker Parrots in NH http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?285656-NH-House-passes-HB-651-to-relegalize-Quaker-Parrots-in-NH
NH House passes bill to eliminate the gambling tax http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?283830-NH-House-passes-bill-to-eliminate-the-gambling-tax
Evergreen law repealed in NH http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?282437-Evergreen-law-repealed-in-NH

With many, many more bills still being debated or waiting for the Governor to act.

RileyE104
06-09-2011, 01:55 PM
Dang. Texas is only in the middle... :(

acptulsa
06-09-2011, 01:58 PM
Oklahoma, a state which has some of the best concealed carry laws, and the best homeschool laws, in the nation, is not ranked as highly as Indiana, the first state to simply write off the Fourth Amendment. Why? Because you can't buy liquor in a drug store in Oklahoma?

Somebody's criteria on this thing is, well, certainly not my criteria.

Vessol
06-09-2011, 01:59 PM
I'm planning on moving to New Hampshire once I graduate ;)

ChaosControl
06-09-2011, 02:02 PM
Maybe when I get back to the US I'll go to NH if the trend continues. Especially if they can pass some anti-groping bill and not back down from federal threats.

RileyE104
06-09-2011, 02:13 PM
I'm planning on moving to New Hampshire once I graduate ;)

I'd like to but I'd also like to stay here in Texas... For some reason I feel maybe, one day, we will become our own country again. *fingerscrossed*

ItsTime
06-09-2011, 02:32 PM
God damnitt I can't wait to move to NH.

High fucking property taxes though. But that's bout it. The benefits farrr outweigh this (no income tax, no sales tax, no capital gains tax, etc).

Paying a $1000 more in property tax is worth it. Lets see, if I lived in VT, I would have to pay $xx,xxx in income tax, 6% sales tax. I just bought $3000 in office equipment that is a $180 savings right there, now I can buy more ad space for my websites.

I live on the New Hampshire/Vermont border. I find it funny to see all these communists and socialists with their socialist bumper stickers shopping in New Hampshire (to avoid paying 6% sales tax) with their "buy local" bumper stickers on their foreign cars. :collins:

ChaosControl
06-09-2011, 02:39 PM
i live on the new hampshire/vermont border. I find it funny to see all these communists and socialists with their socialist bumper stickers shopping in new hampshire (to avoid paying 6% sales tax) with their "buy local" bumper stickers on their foreign cars.

lol

belian78
06-09-2011, 02:41 PM
For those living in NH, where are some good cities to live? What is considered decent pay per hr? (My experience is in sales, B2B, marketing) I've kicked the idea about moving around, but I get more serious by the day.

ItsTime
06-09-2011, 02:45 PM
For those living in NH, where are some good cities to live? What is considered decent pay per hr? (My experience is in sales, B2B, marketing) I've kicked the idea about moving around, but I get more serious by the day.

My guess would be Manchester and Portsmouth would be your best bet. Here is some income stats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire_locations_by_per_capita_income

belian78
06-09-2011, 02:47 PM
My guess would be Manchester and Portsmouth would be your best bet. Here is some income stats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire_locations_by_per_capita_income

Thanks a bunch!
+rep

White Bear Lake
06-09-2011, 03:18 PM
I love Minnesota, but if I ever leave, NH would be the first and only place I'd look at. Any chance that there would be a decent job market for CPA's in a few years?

Acala
06-09-2011, 03:26 PM
In a couple years I may be pulling up roots. And NH is in the running. Here's a question: although NH might be relatively free, it is surrounded by some very populous, very statist states. What happens if things get ugly? South Dakota would be much farther from any socialist population centers. Does it matter? What do y'all think?

HOLLYWOOD
06-09-2011, 04:21 PM
In Remembrance... of the LIVE FREE STATE

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/New_Hampshire_GOP_Results_2008.png

New Hampshire Primary, both McCain and Romney had gambled much on the state. McCain had staked much on his grassroots efforts in the state he won in 2000, as well as the state with one of the most independent voting blocks which was McCain's favor. Romney, coming from neighboring Massachusetts, was known by many in New Hampshire and even owned a home in the state of New Hampshire. Pre-Primary polling showed McCain with a slight edge (32%-28%)with Huckabee leading Giuliani for third (12%-9%).

Primary results: McCain won 37% to Romney's 32% Ron Paul took one county.
McCain lost New Hamsphire in the Presidential general election to Obama 54-45%

Warrior_of_Freedom
06-09-2011, 04:24 PM
I live in NJ and the police will pull you over for taking your seatbelt off just with your car running, not even driving. They stop you all the time for walking down the sidewalk in the evening, and use the excuse "I smelt pot" to pull over every single teenager. I got pulled over before for "blocking" traffic, when it's was really a truck that cut in front of me that caused a traffic jam in the first place. Police didn't care.

freedom-maniac
06-09-2011, 04:49 PM
Oklahoma, a state which has some of the best concealed carry laws, and the best homeschool laws, in the nation, is not ranked as highly as Indiana, the first state to simply write off the Fourth Amendment. Why? Because you can't buy liquor in a drug store in Oklahoma?

Somebody's criteria on this thing is, well, certainly not my criteria.

+1

The problem is so many of these studies are arbitrary. And let us never confuse being free from "taxes and regulation" with being "free" in general.

Anti Federalist
06-09-2011, 04:51 PM
Yeah, well...*facepalm*

Whaddya ya want from me?


In Remembrance... of the LIVE FREE STATE

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/New_Hampshire_GOP_Results_2008.png

New Hampshire Primary, both McCain and Romney had gambled much on the state. McCain had staked much on his grassroots efforts in the state he won in 2000, as well as the state with one of the most independent voting blocks which was McCain's favor. Romney, coming from neighboring Massachusetts, was known by many in New Hampshire and even owned a home in the state of New Hampshire. Pre-Primary polling showed McCain with a slight edge (32%-28%)with Huckabee leading Giuliani for third (12%-9%).

Primary results: McCain won 37% to Romney's 32% Ron Paul took one county.
McCain lost New Hamsphire in the Presidential general election to Obama 54-45%

Anti Federalist
06-09-2011, 04:53 PM
Oklahoma, a state which has some of the best concealed carry laws, and the best homeschool laws, in the nation, is not ranked as highly as Indiana, the first state to simply write off the Fourth Amendment. Why? Because you can't buy liquor in a drug store in Oklahoma?

Somebody's criteria on this thing is, well, certainly not my criteria.

True enough.

FWIW you can't buy distilled liquor in NH outside of a state liquor store.

Also FWIW, they are cheap as hell.

HOLLYWOOD
06-09-2011, 05:41 PM
Yeah, well...*facepalm*

Whaddya ya want from me?
Statistics are nice for propaganda talk... for starters, the granite state/FSP could give some results, which history has proven the voters are not so FREE or LIBERTY minded for Ron Paul.

At least Nevada gave very good results... A 2nd place primary finish AND a resultant 3 GOP delegates for Ron Paul.

No Stats... Just Results.

ItsTime
06-09-2011, 05:59 PM
Statistics are nice for propaganda talk... for starters, the granite state/FSP could give some results, which history has proven the voters are not so FREE or LIBERTY minded for Ron Paul.

At least Nevada gave very good results... A 2nd place primary finish AND a resultant 3 GOP delegates for Ron Paul.

No Stats... Just Results.

Apparently you have not looked at the make up of BOTH the house and senate in NH. They are filled with Ron Paul republicans. Times are changing.

And NV has a caucus not a primary like NH.

HOLLYWOOD
06-09-2011, 06:05 PM
Apparently you have not looked at the make up of BOTH the house and senate in NH. They are filled with Ron Paul republicans. Times are changing.

And NV has a caucus not a primary like NH.Yes I am well aware and I know it's been posted here before.

Where's Ron in all the Polls in NH again?

How many delegates did NH vote for RP again?

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1608

ItsTime
06-09-2011, 06:06 PM
Yes I am well aware and I know it's been posted here before. BUT where's Ron in all the Polls in NH again?

Ever think its Ron Paul the people of New Hampshire dont like, not his ideas? I have, and we need to change that.

Anti Federalist
06-09-2011, 06:11 PM
Statistics are nice for propaganda talk... for starters, the granite state/FSP could give some results, which history has proven the voters are not so FREE or LIBERTY minded for Ron Paul.

At least Nevada gave very good results... A 2nd place primary finish AND a resultant 3 GOP delegates for Ron Paul.

No Stats... Just Results.

LoL - I was partly pulling your leg.

Yes, Nevada delivered, no doubt.

I still have no idea where McPain came from in 08...

HOLLYWOOD
06-09-2011, 06:18 PM
LoL - I was partly pulling your leg.

Yes, Nevada delivered, no doubt.

I still have no idea where McPain came from in 08...
Somebody in the campaign staff needs to address the women vote in NH... Ron is polling tied for last with women voters. It's just not NH, Ron does awful with women voters across the nation. Now why would Ron do so badly for a person that was a doctor delivering more than 4000 babies? What is setting women voters to dislike him so much, that unknown Herman Cain has more than twice the support and Romney scores more than 7 times the support in NH?

PS: OK, just did the math on the latest NH poll... of women that voted for a republican candidate in the upcoming primary,

5% support RP,
22% support Palin
25% vote Romney
Bachmann, Cain, Newt all tied with 10% of women votes each.
The rest of the field split the other~10+%

Keith and stuff
06-09-2011, 06:52 PM
For those living in NH, where are some good cities to live? What is considered decent pay per hr? (My experience is in sales, B2B, marketing) I've kicked the idea about moving around, but I get more serious by the day.

Because taxes are so low and there isn't much crime you don't need as much money to live in NH as the other near-by states. You could live an OK life in NH on $10 an hour if you were smart about it but pay tends to be higher in NH than other places. I think NH has either the highest median household income or the 4th highest median household income, depending on how you look at it (whether you average it over the last 4 years or not.) Property taxes varies wildly in NH from town to town and city to city depending on what the people in that town want. In some towns, people on average pay twice as much in property taxes as people in other towns.

As for good places to live, a lot of liberty folks are gathering in Manchester/Nashua/Concord/Portsmouth/Dover/Rochester/Seabrook/Keene/Grafton and other places and also places near those places. Some people start out renting a room or apartment in Manchester or a near-by town, find a job or nice house somewhere else and then move there.

BuddyRey
06-09-2011, 06:57 PM
This study is highly flawed in a few key respects. Don't get me wrong; I know NH is a beacon for freedom, especially compared to the surrounding states. But, for just one example, they have South Carolina listed as less free than North Carolina, and North Carolina even less free than Virginia. I can tell you as a native North Carolinian who's spent a great deal of time in SC and VA that this couldn't be further from the truth. Taxes are outrageous here compared to SC, gun laws are stricter (heck, we're not even "allowed" to have fireworks), and if charged with a felony here (charged, not convicted), you can have your DNA collected and put in a state database.

South Carolina is enviably, gloriously free in comparison (though certainly not as free as it could be). Whoever put this graph together also failed to note the amazing legislative successes that have happened in Wyoming and Idaho since the state nullification movements there have taken hold. You can now legally conceal a firearm in Wyoming without a government concealed carry permission slip. That's pretty darn amazing from my East Coast frame of reference.

Keith and stuff
06-09-2011, 07:00 PM
In a couple years I may be pulling up roots. And NH is in the running. Here's a question: although NH might be relatively free, it is surrounded by some very populous, very statist states. What happens if things get ugly? South Dakota would be much farther from any socialist population centers. Does it matter? What do y'all think?

NH isn't surrounded by very populous states. VT is #2 in the nation for personal freedom and is less densely populated than NH. ME ranks high for personal freedom and is less densely populated than NH. MA and the states near it (except for NH) tend to be pretty socialist (especially NY and RI) but I think it lost people over the last 10 years or something. The parts of Canada near NH aren't very populated either.

If you are in to living off the land, homestead, gardening and all of that, there are families doing that in NH. NH is the type of places where you can make your own sugar (from maple or bees), raise your own meat and eggs, collect your own water (from wells) and heat your house by cutting down your trees. NH is the 2nd most forested states behind only Maine. NH also has an international border, most of it is very sparsely populated and there is even a coastline.

NH has the lowest crime in the nation and the lowest poverty in the nation. While it's true that some folks to travel to NH from MA to commit crimes, NH has arguably the least restrictive self-defense/weapons laws in the nation and then continue to improve year after year.

Also, I like that people from MA come to NH to buy guns/fireworks/smokes/drinks/swords and everything else. It keeps taxes down and money in the pockets of NH folks.

Keith and stuff
06-09-2011, 07:10 PM
This study is highly flawed in a few key respects. Don't get me wrong; I know NH is a beacon for freedom, especially compared to the surrounding states.

You can now legally conceal a firearm in Wyoming without a government concealed carry permission slip.

No offense but did you read the publication? The study may be flawed in some ways but you really didn't say anything that would indicate that. I recommend reading it, it's pretty interesting http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011

As for the recent legal change in WY, the researches stopped collecting data in 2009 so no doubt things would look differently now. This was the second study. Both the 1st and now this study claim that NH is the freest state. In 2003, the FSP voters selected NH as the FSP state. A tend is developing. Perhaps a 3rd study will come out in 2013 and it will use 2011 as the cut off date for data or something.

Anti Federalist
06-09-2011, 07:18 PM
Somebody in the campaign staff needs to address the women vote in NH...

Someone needs to address the women's vote WRT to freedom issues, period.

Every time I bring the subject up, I'm shouted down as some sort of grunting Neanderthal.

But the fact is woman do not vote for freedom candidates as a whole, just like blacks, as a demographic, do not vote Republican.

We can rant and rave about collectivism all we want, but that's the facts.

Anti Federalist
06-10-2011, 12:34 PM
bump for another thread.

Keith and stuff
06-19-2011, 01:06 AM
OK, here is the detailed research, the list of factors. If you think the states are in the wrong order, please look through this and point out some errors. Heck, the authors of the study might even like the help. I'm sure they want to do as good a job as possible :)

http://www.statepolicyindex.com/the-research/

BTW, Jason Sorens is going to be at Porcfest this year, http://porcfest.com/ and the day after Porcfest both of the authors are likely going to be in Concord, NH giving a presentation about the study.

Keith and stuff
06-28-2011, 08:33 AM
So the presentation in Concord, NH happened on Monday. Here is info about it.

http://www.nhpr.org/free-state-project-founder-gives-nh-thumbs

Free State Project Founder Gives N.H. Thumbs Up
By Dan Gorenstein on Monday, June 27, 2011


The founder of the Free State Project says New Hampshire is moving in the right direction. NHPR’s Dan Gorenstein reports.


And while only some 900 Free Staters have come, movement founder Jason Sorens says when you look at bill’s that have passed and the new budget- this Legislature is hitting many of the Project’s policy goals.

“We have a caucus in the statehouse of about 50 people who are more or less Libertarian, or classical Liberal, the Natural Rights Council. We haven’t had that before. I would agree the current statehouse has a definite Libertarian tinge to it.”


One critic- who attended the talk- said the Free State agenda threatens to change the state into a libertarian society beyond recognition to most Granite Staters.

Theocrat
06-28-2011, 09:58 AM
I've been thinking a little bit about moving to a new place, and NH sounds a little bit better each time I hear about the Free State Project. One of my concerns is where to find a good church in NH. I was considering moving to Manchester, so I guess that would be a good place to research for churches I would like.

Southron
06-28-2011, 11:13 AM
If I lived in the Northeast, I would definitely consider NH.

Keith and stuff
06-28-2011, 01:03 PM
Jason Sorens and William Ruger, the authors of the study, talk about the study on Reason.TV


http://www.youtube.com/embed/oBvdKK9InIE

Rael
06-28-2011, 01:08 PM
This study is highly flawed in a few key respects. Don't get me wrong; I know NH is a beacon for freedom, especially compared to the surrounding states. But, for just one example, they have South Carolina listed as less free than North Carolina, and North Carolina even less free than Virginia. I can tell you as a native North Carolinian who's spent a great deal of time in SC and VA that this couldn't be further from the truth. Taxes are outrageous here compared to SC, gun laws are stricter (heck, we're not even "allowed" to have fireworks), and if charged with a felony here (charged, not convicted), you can have your DNA collected and put in a state database.

South Carolina is enviably, gloriously free in comparison (though certainly not as free as it could be). Whoever put this graph together also failed to note the amazing legislative successes that have happened in Wyoming and Idaho since the state nullification movements there have taken hold. You can now legally conceal a firearm in Wyoming without a government concealed carry permission slip. That's pretty darn amazing from my East Coast frame of reference.

Yeah but IIRC stores cant even open before noon on Sunday in SC which is really bass akwards and no alcohol sales on Sunday at all. Also, NC allows open carry of firearms and SC does not. VA bans radar detectors. I guess the state that's more free depends on which freedoms you value more.

scottditzen
06-28-2011, 01:55 PM
The study is really interesting.

But yeah, it's very subjective dependent on what freedoms you value more.

Personally, I think they gave smoking bans far too much weight.

edit: I know you can visit their website and plug in your own criteria to get rankings more accurate to your beliefs. Haven't done that yet but will tomorrow.

IDefendThePlatform
12-30-2012, 10:36 PM
Any updates from the potential NH movers in this thread?

Keith and stuff
12-30-2012, 10:50 PM
Any updates from the potential NH movers in this thread?

Sorry, I am not sure I understand your question.

The 2009 Report used 2006/2007 data. It said NH was the freest state. The 2011 Report used 2008/2009 data. It said NH was the freest state. In 2009 and 2010, NH lost freedom. In 2011 and 2012, NH gained freedom. I think a new report will come out within a few months using 2010/2011 data.

As for NH, I'm loving it here. Do you have a question about NH or something?

John F Kennedy III
12-30-2012, 10:51 PM
Freedom is also good for you health.

NH ranks six in greatest life expectancy by state.

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/longevity/


Good for your personal safety:

NH has lowest US violent crime rate:

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nhcrime.htm


Good for your economic well being:

NH has third lowest unemployment rate nationwide.

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm


Freedom works, it's good for your body, mind, soul and bank account, statism kills, physically and psychologically.

It's no more difficult than that.

Amen bro.

IDefendThePlatform
12-30-2012, 10:56 PM
Sorry, I am not sure I understand your question.

The 2009 Report used 2006/2007 data. It said NH was the freest state. The 2011 Report used 2008/2009 data. It said NH was the freest state. In 2009 and 2010, NH lost freedom. In 2011 and 2012, NH gained freedom. I think a new report will come out within a few months using 2010/2011 data.

As for NH, I'm loving it here. Do you have a question about NH or something?

I just saw a few "I'm considering moving to NH" posts from my fellow RPFers and was wondering if they had pulled the trigger yet. With Ron retired now I think the FSP is about the best chance we've got to actually make any gains.

Keith and stuff
12-31-2012, 12:10 AM
I just saw a few "I'm considering moving to NH" posts from my fellow RPFers and was wondering if they had pulled the trigger yet. With Ron retired now I think the FSP is about the best chance we've got to actually make any gains.

OK, cool. I also like the FSP, as if you couldn't tell. If someone is considering the FSP, I recommend checking out NH. Don't just take what some of us pro-FSP say on this forum as the truth. IMO, the best time to visit NH is during Liberty Forum if you are just going to check out southeastern NH (where 80% of the people in NH live). Porcfest would be best if you want to check out other parts of the state. I like Liberty Forum because it happens during winter. Some people think the cold my be too much for them, they can find out during Liberty Forum. With Liberty Forum, you don't even need to rent a car as long as you stay at the hotel that hosts the event. The hotel will pick you up and drop you off at the Manchester airport as long as you tell the hotel when you reserve your room.

Liberty Forum February 21-24, 2013 - Crowne Plaza, Nashua, NH
http://freestateproject.org/libertyforum $99 if you order now. $199 if you want 5 buffets includes with your ticket. $99 plus taxes per night at the hotel. Some other motels in NH are as low as $50 plus taxes. There are 3 res truants within walking distance of the hotel, plus a restaurant at the hotel so you don't have to buy the meals package (though I recommend it for the networking).

Porcfest Roger's Campground Lancaster, NH June 17–23, 2013
http://porcfest.com/ I think it costs b/t $30 and $50 to attend. Plus $30 per campsite (you may share with up to 1 adult and your kids at no extra charge, a 3 and 4th adult each cost $5 extra per day) per day. The onsite motel and cabins are usually full. However, you can stay at the motel across the street or in town. However, there is a $5 per adult day fee that the campground charges to enter the campgrounds.

WilliamShrugged
12-31-2012, 12:34 AM
I just saw a few "I'm considering moving to NH" posts from my fellow RPFers and was wondering if they had pulled the trigger yet. With Ron retired now I think the FSP is about the best chance we've got to actually make any gains.

Haven't moved yet but i am saving up to... be there hopefully in late 2013. no later than fall of 2014.

Pauls' Revere
12-31-2012, 01:51 AM
I noticed that the states with the majority of the population were listed some of the least free. They also carry a large weight of the voters as well. No wonder were in the mess were in. No wonder every election becomes more meaningless.

Keith and stuff
12-31-2012, 03:56 AM
In Remembrance... of the LIVE FREE STATE

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/New_Hampshire_GOP_Results_2008.png

New Hampshire Primary, both McCain and Romney had gambled much on the state. McCain had staked much on his grassroots efforts in the state he won in 2000, as well as the state with one of the most independent voting blocks which was McCain's favor. Romney, coming from neighboring Massachusetts, was known by many in New Hampshire and even owned a home in the state of New Hampshire. Pre-Primary polling showed McCain with a slight edge (32%-28%)with Huckabee leading Giuliani for third (12%-9%).

Primary results: McCain won 37% to Romney's 32% Ron Paul took one county.
McCain lost New Hamsphire in the Presidential general election to Obama 54-45%

What a difference 4 years makes :)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/New_Hampshire_Republican_Presidential_Primary_Elec tion_Results_by_Town%2C_2012.png/220px-New_Hampshire_Republican_Presidential_Primary_Elec tion_Results_by_Town%2C_2012.png

Results by town. Orange indicates those won by Romney, gold indicates those won by Paul, crimson those won by Huntsman. White indicates towns where there were no votes cast.
From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_New_Hampshi re,_2012

In 2012, Ron Paul took both towns Huckabee took in 2008. He also took several towns that were shaded white in 2008. Paul took several towns Romney won in 2008. He took dozen and dozens of towns McCain won in 2008.

More about the election in NH.
http://freestateproject.org/intro/ron_paul

fr33
12-31-2012, 08:01 AM
^^ That's a pretty big improvement there.