"Raising a Glass to Ron" - Ongoing...

[ronpaulhawaii]

I posted the other day about a flier... This is earned media


Raising a glass to Ron
Barkeeps hail 'no-tax' tips
By HELEN FREUND and TODD VENEZIA
Last Updated: 1:22 AM, June 6, 2011
Posted: 11:02 PM, June 5, 2011

There's one congressman who will never have to pay for a drink in Manhattan.
Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning Republican presidential candidate from Texas, has become an unlikely hero among bar and restaurant workers as he fights for a bill that would end all taxes on tips -- the bread and butter of bartenders and waiters.
Last Thursday, a group of Paul's Big Apple supporters, called the Ron Paul NYC Liberty HQ, held a Manhattan pub crawl in support of the legislation.
"It's just not right. That money is supposed to be a gratuity for [the workers], not for the government," said Dominic Inferrera, 38, a volunteer with the group.



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/raising_glass_to_ron_pnQMYegNe82iIc7oNyuVPK#ixzz1O TTQk9bm

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[tpreitzel]

Let's face it. People are just tired of paying taxes. ;)

[libertybrewcity]

!!! this is wonderful!

[afwjam]

Great side story. We need to spread this around the service industry.

[parocks]

This is the kind of thing that grassroots should be doing. The campaign is going to be taking care of typical campaigning. Much of what grassroots wants to do the campaign already does. But special projects like a bar crawl the campaign is not likely to do.



I posted the other day about a flier... This is earned media



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[Napoleon's Shadow]

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[Bern]

If you go out to eat, tell your waiter about H.R.1139 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.1139:). If they are interested in getting their tips tax free, they should call their congressman and tell them to support the bill!

[reduen]

If you go out to eat, tell your waiter about H.R.1139 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.1139:). If they are interested in getting their tips tax free, they should call their congressman and tell them to support the bill!

Leave a card with this info when you tip somone...

[CaptUSA]

Leave a card with this info when you tip somone...

You know that's a great idea! You could hit everybody in the restaurant with one card! You better believe they'll share THAT info with their co-workers! Something like, "This tip is supposed to be for you because of your service, not for the government - If you agreee, support Ron Paul's bill."

What a nice, easy way to get his name out there to folks who probably don't pay that much attention.
(Just don't be a lousy tipper when you do it.)

Anyone want to take a stab at creating a little card?

[kill the banks]

yes there are a bundle of votes by promoting this

[chudrockz]

I delivered pizzas a long time ago for a living for awhile, and I never reported my tips.

Hey IRS: FUCK YOU!

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Isn't taxing tips unlawful anyway? They are being taxed on a skewed average, right?

[LisaNY]

I just saw this! Where can I get in touch with the NY group? And when is Ron coming back?

[ronpaulhawaii]

Haha - Now we got FoxNews on the line and are setting up an event for this afternoon



Anyone want to take a stab at creating a little card?

http://www.maresco.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Tax-Free-Tip-Act-Flier.pdf


I just saw this! Where can I get in touch with the NY group? And when is Ron coming back?

Facebook is easiest but you are "in touch" with the NY group right here. HQ is in Nolita on Mott St. Not sure when Ron will be back...

[CaptUSA]

That's great! I'm printing this off and putting a few in my wallet. My wife and I dine out quite a bit. I will leave one of these with every tip.

[KCIndy]

Isn't taxing tips unlawful anyway? They are being taxed on a skewed average, right?

It OUGHT to be unlawful, but unfortunately (just ask any waitress/waiter) tips are indeed taxed. What's worse, at least as I understand it, the
IRS *assumes* that wait staff are making at least 15% in tips. A while back, the IRS was pushing hard to have restaurants keep track of the total
tab for each waitress based on sales, and the waitress would be expected to pay taxes on 15% of the total sales tab. In other words, if the customers were tightwads, the waitress could end up getting taxed on tips that were not even earned. I'm not sure if this law ever went through or not.

Regardless, it would be really good to have some cards or slimjims to pass out to wait staff. Anyone with design talent on this yet?

[LisaNY]

Thanks Mike. I work in midtown, I'll have to stop by one of these days and say hello.

[Matthew Zak]

Don't let the government steal YOUR gratuity. Support H.R.1139.
Ron Paul 2012
www.ronpaul2012.com

[ronpaulhawaii]

Just got the hard copies delivered. Page 3 :D Could not ask for better placement

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251353_1888865994644_1631292989_1839480_3606052_n. jpg

[Sweman]

http://www.maresco.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Tax-Free-Tip-Act-Flier.pdf

Good, but they don't say that he's a presidential candidate, and they could be smaller.

[ronpaulhawaii]

Good, but they doesn't say that he's a presidential candidate, and they could be smaller.

The strategy here is to seed his name without "selling" a candidate. Lots of reasons for this, including getting the press interested...

And yes, a business card sized version would be good too

[Wkaram]

For any of you in the Las Vegas area, this would be a great place to show this. Almost every job there is tip oriented.

[Maximus]

Possibly gonna organize a pub crawl in San Diego

[ronpaulhawaii]

More earned media

Dominic is who we are using as a spokesperson on this initiative. Francine will like him
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/247027_10150275279397953_663957952_8871194_7194086 _n.jpg

We prepped the Bartender an hour before the news crew showed up. He surprised us with his shirt
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249833_10150275272222953_663957952_8871119_2791973 _n.jpg

This was a random democrat who "likes" Ron Paul, is in the service industry, and, strongly supports the bill
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252527_10150275277732953_663957952_8871165_6985784 _n.jpg

Francine friendly earned media is priceless... :)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249669_10150275251767953_663957952_8870862_7438018 _n.jpg

[malkusm]

Awesome! Wish I could have come down this afternoon, but I couldn't get away from work....I'm sure NYC HQ will have plenty more pub crawls in the future :p

ETA: When is the clip supposed to air on Fox?

[ronpaulhawaii]

Awesome! Wish I could have come down this afternoon, but I couldn't get away from work....I'm sure NYC HQ will have plenty more pub crawls in the future :p

ETA: When is the clip supposed to air on Fox?

It was a rush job, they saw the Post article and wanted a story today. Not sure how long the media will stay interested, but the regular outreach crawls will be ongoing... Should be on the Local "Fox 5" Channel at 10p http://www.myfoxny.com/

[IDefendThePlatform]

Awesome work guys!

Michael I hope you don't mind I cleptoed your fliers and made a Facebook page for it:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tax-Free-Tips-Act/160101794057327

I'm definitely going to print those off and hand them out.

Please Like the facebook page as well! I just started advertising it on facebook:


http://i.imgur.com/unh4Y.png

This ad targets 392,860 users:
who live in the United States
age 17 and older
who like bartender, bartending, waiter, waiterbartender, waiters or waitress



Any suggestions on ad or page would also be appreciated.

This seems like a really good recruiting area for us. We should try to repeat this in other places. Plus, wait staff and bartender types are naturally pretty social and probably likely to help spread the message if we can get them on board.

[JTforRP]

Very solid. This could generate lots of enthusiasm. Just shared it on Facebook and got a couple likes.

[LisaNY]

For any of you in the Las Vegas area, this would be a great place to show this. Almost every job there is tip oriented.

Yes, also to pass out at the diners/restaurants in Iowa.

[Michigan11]

Somebody should setup some platic type business cards with this information on them and sell them in packs of 100 or something. I would definitely buy them and leave them everywhere I go and I also eat out alot and bars too

[Kregisen]

Somebody should setup some platic type business cards with this information on them and sell them in packs of 100 or something. I would definitely buy them and leave them everywhere I go and I also eat out alot and bars too

yes who wants to do this?

[KingRobbStark]

This is a great idea.

[Schueltar]

I delivered pizza about 5 years ago, or so, my tips got taxed, but, but i only reported .25 cents per delivery

[Kregisen]

Created a thread about this on slickdeals.net's political forum....it's actually quite a popular forum, and has tons of liberals and conservatives alike.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?p=40144235#post40144235

comment on it.

[psi2941]

Living in korea has taught me to never to tip again, why the fuck are we tipping these assholes anyways? Isn’t it part of the job to serve? But my biggest problem with tipping is that, people expect a tip and they give a mediocre service.

for example a hair salon in south Korea, I walk into a hair salon to get my hair cut. The person at the door greats me and grabs my coat to put it into an individual locker. I didn't have to take off the coat, they did it for me after this they hand me the keys to open the locker so no one can open it. Then they prewash my hair (really good by the way). While I’m waiting for my hair to be cut, the barber’s assistant comes and gives me a "hand massage". Then after the hair cut, they wash my hair again. After the whole thing they went and grabbed my coat and put it on for me. They would not let me do it myself.
All this service for 12,000won which is about 11.50 dollars and remember you never tip in korea.

Another thing, the food delivery is great here. You can order a 4,500 won item which is about 4.10 dollars and they will deliver it to you without a delivery charge nor a tip.
I think we should change the tipping guide lines. If the person goes out of their way to provide an extra service then yea tipping should be fine. But if the asswipes are just doing something the job requires I think we should not tip them.

sorry i'm just mad at all the times i tipped because i'm living in south korea.

[malkusm]

Living in korea has taught me to never to tip again, why the fuck are we tipping these assholes anyways? Isn’t it part of the job to serve? But my biggest problem with tipping is that, people expect a tip and they give a mediocre service.

You're saying that waiters/waitresses should be happy with their $3-4/hour wage and shouldn't be paid a gratuity?

I hope you're not a repeat customer anywhere....Rule #1: "Never mess with those who handle your food."

[MRoCkEd]

Just caught the segment on Fox 5. Very positive. Good coverage.

[malkusm]

Here's the video from Fox 5: http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/ron-paul-gains-fans-in-new-york-bartenders-and-servers-20110606

:)

[doctor jones]

Here's the video from Fox 5: http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/ron-paul-gains-fans-in-new-york-bartenders-and-servers-20110606

:)

"Very NICE!" - Borat

[truthdivides]

That is excellent coverage!!

[ronpaulhawaii]

Here's the video from Fox 5: http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/ron-paul-gains-fans-in-new-york-bartenders-and-servers-20110606

:)

:D

[Bern]

I added a note to this site: http://www.make-better-tips.com/

:)

If anyone here has a Facebook account (I don't and won't), there are a couple of web pages about tipping that accepts Facebook comments that could use a mention about the bill:

http://www.ehow.com/how_2071286_earn-more-tips.html

http://www.ehow.com/how_6367286_better-waiter.html

I suggest:
Ron Paul's Tax Free Tips bill and would eliminate income taxes for tips!

Media: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/raising_glass_to_ron_pnQMYegNe82iIc7oNyuVPK

Contact Congress: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

HR1139: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.1139:

[Slutter McGee]

I might. mention this. Please don't leave info if you tip less than 15 %. Not that less than 15% is always wrong, but the idea is to make a good impression. I think back to my waiting days. People people would leave religious tacts and no money to go with it. Lets just say they didn't work.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[Bern]

http://forums.foodservice.com/index.cfm?FSF_action=view_thread&FSF_UI_tab=forum&FSF_ID=20052

:) (That's a forum where restaurant owners hang out)

[ronpaulhawaii]

A note about organizing potential "Pub-Crawls" - It will be most effective if core teams consist of light/non drinkers and those who hold their liqueur well... jus' sayin'... :P

[CaptUSA]

A note about organizing potential "Pub-Crawls" - It will be most effective if core teams consist of light/non drinkers and those who hold their liqueur well... jus' sayin'... :P

Damn, you just disqualified a large portion of this constituency! I'll just have to make sure someone from the "core team" is strong enough to carry me along... :)

[psi2941]

You're saying that waiters/waitresses should be happy with their $3-4/hour wage and shouldn't be paid a gratuity?

I hope you're not a repeat customer anywhere....Rule #1: "Never mess with those who handle your food."
if they dont like their 3-4/hour job they can certainly quit. by the way min wage in korea is 4,000 won about 3.60 and the waiters are doing just fine.

[IDefendThePlatform]

I added a note to this site: http://www.make-better-tips.com/

:)

If anyone here has a Facebook account (I don't and won't), there are a couple of web pages about tipping that accepts Facebook comments that could use a mention about the bill:

http://www.ehow.com/how_2071286_earn-more-tips.html

http://www.ehow.com/how_6367286_better-waiter.html

I suggest:

Thanks for the links. I just commented on both ehow.com articles with the Tax Free Tips Act facebook page. Its picking up fans quickly, and is now big enough to have a personalized URL:

http://www.facebook.com/TaxFreeTipsAct

I'm planning on making some business cards with the new URL, mostly based off the content in ronpaulhawaii's fliers from post #14. Please share it if you can.

[CChenard]

My friend created this: http://i.imgur.com/sN939.png
What do you guys think?

[ronpaulhawaii]

My friend created this: http://i.imgur.com/sN939.png
What do you guys think?

NICE! :D

I like using both sides, a quick blurb like,


With H.R.1139, Dr. Paul highlights the unfair burden of our tax code, while providing actual solutions that would directly benefit workers and our economy.

Or something like,


I can gift up to $13,000 a year to perfect stranger, tax-free, but I cant even give you a buck without the government taking a cut. What is up with that? - Google Ron Paul!

What else?

As is is great though for first printing :) Thanks for posting and welcome

[ronpaulhawaii]

Sparked a question on FreedomWatch

http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/freedom-watch/index.html#/v/981797989001/ron-pauls-money-bomb/

haha

[martyr_rabbit]

Really like all these ideas; didn't actually realize all the buzz was going on about the same concept until hawaii pointed it out. I've posted a much simpler, less "political"-looking one over here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?297333-New-idea-to-target-waitresses-bartenders-etc. It could definitely fit inside a wallet since we made it about the size of a business card. Feel free to alter if you'd like.

[Bern]

My friend created this: http://i.imgur.com/sN939.png
What do you guys think?

Good work. They are tight.

[ronpaulhawaii]

Ongoing media

A Facebook Status:

James V. Barcia
I will be at the HQ closer to 1p today, as I will be doing a WABC 770 radio interview at 11:20a from home. The interview will last about 7 or 8 minutes and the topic is tax-free tips. Tune in!

:D

And the crew is going on a midtown crawl tonight...

[DisillusionedPatriot]

Somebody should setup some platic type business cards with this information on them and sell them in packs of 100 or something. I would definitely buy them and leave them everywhere I go and I also eat out alot and bars too

Anybody thought about this yet? I would definitely be interested in purchasing and distributing several packs of these.

[frodus24]

As an avid reader of the forums for the past several months, I have decided that this is the perfect opportunity for me to help restore the republic. The "Tax Free Tips Act of 2011" is a genius piece of legislation that needs to be pushed and catapulted into every restaurant in the country.

This Friday, I am mailing a letter to every restaurant in my city, Danville, Virginia. I am simply stating that every restaurant needs to be contacting their congressman and get this pushed hard. I am also including a PDF http://www.maresco.us/wp-content/upl...-Act-Flier.pdf These will be pre-cut and on very nice card stock. My hope is that restaurant owners will at least make these available to their employees. This is a win win for waiters/waitresses/busboys/bartenders and restaurant owners.

Maybe this idea will allow others to follow suit and get the word out. This could help resonate much positivity into the campaign and help Dr. Paul gain a ton of momentum with new younger voters.

[Paul Or Nothing II]

As an avid reader of the forums for the past several months, I have decided that this is the perfect opportunity for me to help restore the republic. The "Tax Free Tips Act of 2011" is a genius piece of legislation that needs to be pushed and catapulted into every restaurant in the country.

This Friday, I am mailing a letter to every restaurant in my city, Danville, Virginia. I am simply stating that every restaurant needs to be contacting their congressman and get this pushed hard. I am also including a PDF http://www.maresco.us/wp-content/upl...-Act-Flier.pdf These will be pre-cut and on very nice card stock. My hope is that restaurant owners will at least make these available to their employees. This is a win win for waiters/waitresses/busboys/bartenders and restaurant owners.

Maybe this idea will allow others to follow suit and get the word out. This could help resonate much positivity into the campaign and help Dr. Paul gain a ton of momentum with new younger voters.

+1

[speciallyblend]

You know that's a great idea! You could hit everybody in the restaurant with one card! You better believe they'll share THAT info with their co-workers! Something like, "This tip is supposed to be for you because of your service, not for the government - If you agreee, support Ron Paul's bill."

What a nice, easy way to get his name out there to folks who probably don't pay that much attention.
(Just don't be a lousy tipper when you do it.)

Anyone want to take a stab at creating a little card?

great idea ,but make sure ron paul 2012 is on their somewhere;)

[speciallyblend]

As an avid reader of the forums for the past several months, I have decided that this is the perfect opportunity for me to help restore the republic. The "Tax Free Tips Act of 2011" is a genius piece of legislation that needs to be pushed and catapulted into every restaurant in the country.

This Friday, I am mailing a letter to every restaurant in my city, Danville, Virginia. I am simply stating that every restaurant needs to be contacting their congressman and get this pushed hard. I am also including a PDF http://www.maresco.us/wp-content/upl...-Act-Flier.pdf These will be pre-cut and on very nice card stock. My hope is that restaurant owners will at least make these available to their employees. This is a win win for waiters/waitresses/busboys/bartenders and restaurant owners.

Maybe this idea will allow others to follow suit and get the word out. This could help resonate much positivity into the campaign and help Dr. Paul gain a ton of momentum with new younger voters.

2nd this motion, the revolution needs to make it happen in every state!!

[ronpaulhawaii]

We earned more press for this

http://www.plumalibrenews.com/news.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=2258


The Ron Paul NYC Liberty HQ conducted a tax-free tips event at the renowned Natives Restaurant - Theater - Bar in Queens to promote federal legislation that would exempt gratuities from all federal income and employment taxes. The bill would affect bartenders, servers and workers of other occupations whose tips are currently taxable according to Internal Revenue Service (IRS) criteria.

...

"As a proud American of Colombian descent, I am deeply appreciative that Dr. Paul promotes initiatives that, once enacted, will bring needed relief to overtaxed, overburdened workers in communities like Jackson Heights, Queens," said Pierre Alcantara, referring to Congressman Paul as "doctor" because Dr. Paul is an OB-GYN by trade who personally delivered 4,000 babies.

"Now is the time for Hispanic Americans and others to remain engaged on this issue of tax-free tips so that millions of workers get immediate, significant relief. In Washington, we have a costly federal government that bails out its union and corporate cronies but never assists middle-class households. The situation as it stands is wrong", added Pierre, who is the Ron Paul NYC Liberty HQ visibility coordinator.

...

The response to tax-free tips advocacy has been remarkable. Other grassroots supporters of Dr. Paul now are emulating the Ron Paul NYC Liberty HQ's tax-free tips pub-crawls in New Jersey, New York's Nassau and Suffolk Counties, Orange County, California, St. Paul, Minnesotta and Atlanta, Georgia. With respect to tax-free tips legislation advocacy, the HQ also has inspired activists in the important Republican presidential primary states of Iowa and Nevada.

For more information, please contact the Ron Paul NYC Liberty HQ by calling ... Or, send an email to nyc.liberty.hq -at- gmail.com or taxfreetipsnyc -at- gmail.com

About the Ron Paul NYC Liberty HQ:

The Ron Paul NYC Liberty HQ is the only grassroots effort and workspace assembling Republicans and conservatives in support of Ron Paul. Located in NoLita, Manhattan, the HQ conducts fully independent online and on-the-ground initiatives to promote the legislative agenda of Ron Paul. The Ron Paul NYC Liberty HQ is not affiliated with the Ron Paul Presidential Campaign.

Even better, this was just from a press release and not written by the reporter who came down. So we are expecting more to follow

Go Grassroots!

[ronpaulhawaii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/264823_168385166560579_164782150254214_390240_5437 13_n.jpg

"If you ain't having fun, you are so doing it wrong" - Ernie Hancock

[outspoken]

It is almost impossible to track cash tips and these folks will be able to make their income appear small to the IRS man. Thus, it will be difficult to overcome the mindset of free Obamacare.

[ronpaulhawaii]

The IRS estimates cash tips and the servers are liable. That means if you work in a dive down the block from a 5 star your taxrate on cashtips is disproportional; unfair.

Secondly, as we move to a digital world the servers are getting squeezed. They know exactly what we are getting on about. Soon we will begin subtly educating customers.

Finally, most people do not agree with the "mandate" and are no longer fooled by Obama's charisma...