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aid632007
06-04-2011, 05:19 AM
Is Voluntary Charity the same as Wealth Distribution/Redistribution I know that Voluntary Charity is still Voluntary but you are still giving your Wealth to other People ?

Distribution of wealth
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Charity

In addition to government efforts to redistribute wealth, the tradition of individual charity is a voluntary means of wealth transference. There are also many voluntary charitable organizations making concerted efforts to aid those in need.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth

Force, Charity and Logic

April 6, 2011 · Posted in Abundance

Some people claim wealthy people must be forced to provide for the needy. Logic and evidence show that is false. Charity is always freely given, and that is often.

http://markproffitt.com/2011/04/06/force-charity-and-logic/

http://markproffitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ForcedCharity.png

Ray
06-04-2011, 05:27 AM
Anytime you spend money on anything it's technically by definition redistribution of wealth if you really want to nitpick, but in common use it means forced redistribution.

AceNZ
06-04-2011, 05:32 AM
Money is not the same thing as wealth.

noxagol
06-04-2011, 05:41 AM
It is, but it is not bad because it is voluntary.

sailingaway
06-04-2011, 07:22 AM
Sure it is still wealth redistribution, it just isn't objectionable.

It is the force that makes wealth redistribution objectionable.

awake
06-04-2011, 07:35 AM
Voluntary charity has a much more discriminating effect - a person can decide when some one is trying milk them and stop the handouts. State wealth distribution can not recognize loafer from the those truly in need. In light of this, it necessarily tends to buy political allegiance with other peoples money instead.

Charity has the power and best chance to truly benefit a person in opportunity and spirit ; wealth redistribution enslave both giver and receiver to benefit the political ambitions of the enforcers of such "charitable" schemes.

truthdivides
06-04-2011, 08:30 AM
From a Christian perspective.

2 Corinthians 9:7 : You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don’t give reluctantly or in response to pressure. “For God loves a person who gives cheerfully.”

As other people have said, the force is what makes it bad. If it is forced I very much doubt you are cheerful about it. When you do it voluntarily it is much more likely you will be cheerful about it.

Sola_Fide
06-04-2011, 08:43 AM
Voluntary charity has a much more discriminating effect - a person can decide when some one is trying milk them and stop the handouts. State wealth distribution can not recognize loafer from the those truly in need. In light of this, it necessarily tends to buy political allegiance with other peoples money instead.

Charity has the power and best chance to truly benefit a person in opportunity and spirit ; wealth redistribution enslave both giver and receiver to benefit the political ambitions of the enforcers of such "charitable" schemes.

Great post.

Sola_Fide
06-04-2011, 08:44 AM
From a Christian perspective.

2 Corinthians 9:7 : You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don’t give reluctantly or in response to pressure. “For God loves a person who gives cheerfully.”

As other people have said, the force is what makes it bad. If it is forced I very much doubt you are cheerful about it. When you do it voluntarily it is much more likely you will be cheerful about it.

Another great post.

ChaosControl
06-04-2011, 09:27 AM
Yes.
Wealth redistribution is fine.
The problem is force, not redistribution. So when it is voluntary, there is no issue at all.