View Full Version : June 13th New Hampshire Debate

06-03-2011, 12:32 PM
Confirmed Candidates
- Mitt Romney (establishment)
- Newt Gingrich (semi-establishment)
- Tim Pawlenty (wannabe-establishment)
- Rick Santorum (wannabe-establishment)
- Herman Cain (wannabe-teaparty)
- Michele Bachmann (wannabe-teaparty)
- Ron Paul (teaparty/anti-establishment)


This time, organizers WMUR-TV, CNN and New Hampshire's Union Leader newspaper, stipulated that participants must only be "taking substantive steps towards a presidential run," and have demonstrated support with either an average of 2% in three national polls released in April and May, or at least 2% in a May University of New Hampshire poll.
- http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-new-hampshire-gop-debate-20110603,0,5409679.story?track=rss

Unfortunately, this most likely means there will only be one libertarian on stage. :(
Also, I've never seen Santorum poll at least 2%... Seems unfair to let him debate.

My analysis of Ron's opposition:

Mitt Romney - We all know his flaws. All I have to say is that Ron needs to hit him HARD on Romneycare and abortion. Also, Ron needs to revisit Romney's argument in a 2008 debate that the President shouldn't have to go to Congress before taking military action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3BbIPbLSRw) and compare that to Obama's war in Libya.

Newt Gingrich - If the opportunity arises, hit him hard on his teamup with Nancy Pelosi on climate change (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaZFfQKWX54) and also his recent attack on Paul Ryan's Medicare plan. Also, if I recall correctly, Gingrich somewhat said that he supports the individual mandate.

Herman Cain - Hit him hard over his support of TARP and flip-flop over auditing the Federal Reserve (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTUseC3-Q8E) - point out that it's good he's on the side of the people now, but a shame that before it became such a popular issue he didn't see a need for it.

Pawlenty, Santorum - I don't really see much of a reason for Ron to get into debates with these guys. Don't even give them the light of day.

Michele Bachmann - I don't see a real need to engage Bachmann either, but if the topic arises point out her support of the Patriot Act.


If treated fairly, I believe Ron has the potential to come out of this upcoming debate as a real, major, major player for the nomination. Hopefully CNN sticks to the economy and doesn't stray off like FOX did in the last debate. The economy is what matters, more than anything right now. We all know that foreign policy is part of the economy, and hopefully Ron will be given the opportunity to clarify that stance on June 13th. During the last debate, Ron didn't get much of a chance to talk about his usual talking-points like the debt and a looming currency crisis. I hope CNN will give him that chance.

06-03-2011, 12:38 PM
Cain also said there was no housing bubble in 2005 and apparently has an Enron-esque scandal yet to be fully vetted. see opposition candidates section.

06-03-2011, 04:30 PM
FYI an email I received from the Gary Johnson campaign regarding his exclusion from the debate:

"CNN, WMUR, and the New Hampshire Union Leader will host a presidential debate on Saturday, June 13th in Manchester. Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Tim Pawlenty, Herman Cain, and Ron Paul will participate. In addition, unannounced candidate Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum will also take part.

Gary Johnson, however, will not participate. Why? Because he wasn’t invited.

This morning, we learned along with the rest of world that CNN and the other debate sponsors have decided to exclude Governor Johnson from sharing your voice in the debate.

Apparently, the powers-that-be in the mainstream media do not want Americans to hear from the man who has been called “the most dangerous politician in America.”

In the latest Gallup poll, released one week ago, Governor Johnson’s level of support registered at 3% nationally. This is competitive with candidates like Tim Pawlenty and Rick Santorum, both of whom have been invited to participate. In fact, I’m not aware of a poll in which Mr. Santorum has out-polled Governor Johnson nationally.

We first heard about this debate from numerous supporters in New Hampshire excited to see Governor Johnson take part. Those supporters assumed that Governor Johnson was invited.

Our campaign office, however, had not received an invitation, so we called this week, thinking we might have misplaced it or simply overlooked it. To our shock, at about 6:30 this morning, we learned that Governor Johnson was not invited, he was not going to be invited, and he would not be allowed to participate.

CNN has claimed they used “objective criteria” to determine debate participants. As to what those criteria are, your guess it as good as mine.

Why are CNN, WMUR, and the Union Leader excluding the one Republican candidate with executive experience and a record of fighting for true fiscal conservatism and limited government? Why are they denying Americans the opportunity to hear from the Republican presidential candidate whose popularity is growing by the day? If only Governor Johnson had supported a statewide health insurance mandate, like other candidates.

We couldn’t get answers to these questions from the representatives. Maybe you’ll have better luck. Please take a moment to contact them below:

(404) 827-1500 or (202) 898-7900
Text: CNN (space) and your news tip to 772937 (don't forget the space after CNN). http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html
Twitter: @CNN or @teamCNN

(603) 669-9999
Twitter: @WMUR9

Union Leader
(603) 668-4321 Twitter: @unionleader

Please take that action. With Twitter, use hashtag #GJ2012 or #GJinNH. When you’re done, make your most generous donation today. Let it be said that we did everything in our power to win the flight for liberty:

Ron Nielson

Gary Johnson 2012"

06-03-2011, 07:20 PM
Tickets have been issued! We need to find ticket info NOW. People have mentioned on twitter that they have received their NH debate tickets.