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HOLLYWOOD
06-01-2011, 11:30 AM
Here we go again... WAR IS PEACE/MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX/ESTABLISHMENT IMPERIAL CONTROL

http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2305-GOP-Pulls-Libya-War-Powers-Resolution-from-the-Floor-Because-It-Might-Pass

GOP Pulls Libya War Powers Resolution from the Floor Because it Might Pass

June 1, 2011 - by Donny Shaw
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The House Republican leadership is worried that Congress might stand up to the Obama Administration and assert its constitutional prerogative as the only brach on government that can declare war. The House was scheduled to vote this afternoon on a a privileged resolution (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-hc51/show) from Rep. Dennis Kucinich [D, OH-10] (http://www.opencongress.org/people/show/400227_Dennis_Kucinich) directing the President, pursuant to the War Powers Act, to remove U.S. armed forces from Libya. But the House leadership has pulled it from the floor because, according to Republican aides who spoke with Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/06/01/longer-libyan-commitment-sets-showdown-congress/), “it became clear that it might succeed.”
“[Republican leaders] hadn’t seen much of a threat from [the Kucinich bill]. He’s kind of this marginal figure and having his resolution go down narrowly would be no big deal and might even send a message to the administration,” said one of the Republican aides. “But once they saw that there was substantial support, they were like, ‘Whoa.’”
Under the War Powers Act of 1973, if a President authorizes military action without approval from Congress, they must terminate the action within 60 days unless they get specific approval from Congress, or unless there is a national emergency due to an attack on the U.S. In the case of Libya, they 60-day period has come and gone without any action from Congress, yet, in a direct violation of the law, U.S. military involvement in Libya continues. In fact, it has now been extended for another 90 days (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/06/nato-extends-its-libya-campaign-another-90-days/38352/).
The Obama Administration argues that Libya is not a U.S. mission. It’s a NATO mission, they say. But as Kucinich points out in a letter to supporters of his resolution, the U.S. is still in charge. “The fact remains that we’re bombing another country and we pay, by far, the largest percentage of NATO’s military bills,” he says. “This is a war that we’re leading – and it’s a war that violates our Constitution and the War Powers Act.”
According to a new poll (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/31/cnn-poll-majority-say-invoke-war-powers-act/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+rss/cnn_politicalticker+%28Blog:+Political+Ticker%29), the public seems to back Kucinich and his allies. When asked by CNN pollsters who should have final authority for deciding whether the U.S. should continue its use of military force in Libya — Congress or President Obama — 55% of respondents answered Congress.
House Republicans have been actively working to expand presidential war powers. They recently added language to the annual Defense authorization bill (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1540/show) that expands presidential authority to use military force (http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2294-Republicans-Pushing-for-Permanent-War-on-Terror) without consent from Congress against virtually anybody suspected of being a terrorist, anywhere in the world (including domestically), indefinitely. Obviously, the growing support for Kucinich’s resolution is a significant challenge to their unilateral-executive-war-power agenda. So, it’s been postponed, supposedly (http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=244074) “in an effort to compel more information and consultation’ from the Administration,” but actually just to give the Republican leadership more time to twist arms.
Pictured above are U.S. special forces on the ground in Libya.

brandon
06-01-2011, 11:43 AM
The Obama administration really messed up on this Libya thing. They didn't spread even close to enough lies and war propaganda before going in there, and now the public is against them. Obama could really learn a thing or two about fear mongering from the greats like Bush and Cheney.

ExPatPaki
06-01-2011, 11:46 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but on what grounds does the "House leadership" have the authority to pull a resolution?

belian78
06-01-2011, 11:51 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but on what grounds does the "House leadership" have the authority to pull a resolution?

This is what Id like to know as well. But then, when is anything on the straight and narrow with Congress anymore?

tropicangela
06-01-2011, 12:02 PM
edit: wrong thread.

ChaosControl
06-01-2011, 12:05 PM
**** the GOP.

HOLLYWOOD
06-01-2011, 02:18 PM
Anyone notice the last line of the article?

US Hired Guns... They appear to be Mercenaries, XE/Blackwater corporation type?

THE HILL's coverage on the lame excuse BS of these establishment globalists of BOTH parties: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/164187-kucinichs-libya-resolution-pulled-from-house-schedule


Kucinich's Libya resolution pulled from House schedule


By Pete Kasperowicz - 06/01/11 12:41 PM ET
A resolution calling for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Libya was withdrawn from the House schedule this week, prompting sponsor Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) to charge that House leaders were afraid it might have passed.


"The House Leadership has communicated to me via email that the vote on Libya will be postponed 'in an effort to compel more information and consultation' from the administration," Kucinich said Wednesday. "I have been asked to provide input for the information which the House will seek from the administration."

Kucinich said his reading of the delay is that House leaders and the Obama administration are looking to stall for time as they look to justify ongoing military activities in Libya.
"I am disappointed that the President and leadership feel the need to buy even more time to shore up support for the War in Libya," Kucinich said. "It's not surprising that some are now wondering if a preliminary vote count on my resolution came out in favor of defending the Constitution.
"The administration wants to postpone and avoid this deliberation; however Congress cannot maintain its position as a co-equal branch of government if it willingly forfeits the decision-making on matters of war and peace," he added. "This is why it is important that this issue be brought forward for deliberation and a vote."
Kucinich said the House is at some point expected to consider a rule that will "structure the consideration" of his Libya resolution, H.Con.Res. 51.
Kucinich and other members have argued that the War Powers Act only allows the president to commit military forces without congressional approval in the case of an imminent threat to the U.S., and that even when this threshold is met, congressional approval must be sought after 60 days. Kucinich has argued that the administration failed to show there was any imminent threat to the U.S. in Libya, and that regardless, operations have been in place for longer than 60 days.