Ron Paul: The New Eisenhower

[Paulistinian]

Hey, I recently joined ronpaulforums.com and I really like what I have discovered here. Something I have began to notice lately is how similar Ron Paul's message and his vision of the type of country the United States should be is right in step with how President Eisenhower lead. I know we are all familiar with Eisenhower's farewell speech regarding the Military Industrial Complex(full version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gahL5j4ack). Eisenhower to me represents the last great American President. So here is my question... how do we alert the GOP that they need to be looking for the new Eisenhower and not the new Reagan?

[Chester Copperpot]

Hey, I recently joined ronpaulforums.com and I really like what I have discovered here. Something I have began to notice lately is how similar Ron Paul's message and his vision of the type of country the United States should be is right in step with how President Eisenhower lead. I know we are all familiar with Eisenhower's farewell speech regarding the Military Industrial Complex(full version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gahL5j4ack). Eisenhower to me represents the last great American President. So here is my question... how do we alert the GOP that they need to be looking for the new Eisenhower and not the new Reagan?

I think theyll figure it out only after we get Ron in the white house. Not sure I agree with your analysis of Ron as the new Eisenhower though.... As much as I admire Ike, I think his foreign policy and Rons wouldnt see eye to eye.

Probably more accurate that Ron is the new Thomas Jefferson.

And politicians are never forward looking.. You can only convince them once people get elected... Then theyll start pandering for the thing they think is popular

[t0rnado]

Don't defame Dr. Paul by comparing him to the man that order the coup of the democratically elected Iranian government in 1953 and gave us many of the problems we have today.

[Suzu]

I posted a reply in this thread, it was #2. Where did it go?

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[Captain America]

What guideline did I break by saying Reagan more like Raygun?

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[itsnobody]

I don't think we should continue to compare Ron Paul to other Presidents, too many people disagree on who he's more like....Ron Paul is his own man, but to me he seems to be closest to Thomas Jefferson in ideals.

Either way our objective is to get him elected!

[t0rnado]

I say we use Reagan's old endorsement of Ron as much as we can during the campaign to sway voters. When Ron Paul becomes President, he will be the standard that future contenders use to garner support.

[Bman]

I have to say. Telling most Republicans that there is someone better than Reagan, would be like telling Christians there is someone better than God. I don't think it's a wise move. When I look through past notable Republicans I usually ask a person do we want a party more in line with Goldwater or more in line with Nixon.

[buffalokid777]

I think theyll figure it out only after we get Ron in the white house. Not sure I agree with your analysis of Ron as the new Eisenhower though.... As much as I admire Ike, I think his foreign policy and Rons wouldnt see eye to eye.

Probably more accurate that Ron is the new Thomas Jefferson.

And politicians are never forward looking.. You can only convince them once people get elected... Then theyll start pandering for the thing they think is popular

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[Paulistinian]

I don't think we should continue to compare Ron Paul to other Presidents, too many people disagree on who he's more like....Ron Paul is his own man, but to me he seems to be closest to Thomas Jefferson in ideals.

Either way our objective is to get him elected!

Great thinking. You've changed my mind!

[Paulistinian]

I say we use Reagan's old endorsement of Ron as much as we can during the campaign to sway voters. When Ron Paul becomes President, he will be the standard that future contenders use to garner support.

Ron was also one of the few who endorsed Reagan the first time he ran in 1976. Good point, it will be important to bring up Reagan's endorsement to potential republican voters.

[sailingaway]

I think we are fighting enough spin to take on convincing them of this in a campaign year. Between campaigns this sort of thing can take hold, as between 2007 and now people actually came to grips with the idea of Wilson being progressive and the 'saving the world for democracy' idea was born of that. The good news is that when people look back to Reagan they compare to his rhetoric, which is good, rather than his actions, which fell short in implementation for whatever reason.

[sailingaway]

Ron was also one of the few who endorsed Reagan the first time he ran in 1976. Good point, it will be important to bring up Reagan's endorsement to potential republican voters.

He didn't just endorse him, despite the fact that he was a Junior congressman, Ron led the Texas delegation (one of I think two big states that went for Reagan) in the Republican National Convention against the Rockefeller Republicans who backed Ford. I think a LOT of animosity in the establishment GOP goes back to that -- and then, of course, Ron winning two contested elections against their choice as a nonincumbent both times didn't help where they were concerned. Rand has an interesting write up of this in his book, noting that people quoting the 11th commandment of Reagan, not to speak ill of another Republican (regarding TARP etc), were ones he recognized as having been delegates for Ford at the actual battle to get Reagan installed as nominee. Rand attended the convention at age 13 and saw it.

[acptulsa]

I told my mother about Ron Paul quoting Eisenhower on The View. She was impressed. Among voters of a certain age, this is actually an incredibly good idea. A lot of them still like Ike.

[freedom-maniac]

I told my mother about Ron Paul quoting Eisenhower on The View. She was impressed. Among voters of a certain age, this is actually an incredibly good idea. A lot of them still like Ike.

I made a video that explores this theme:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxbceLjIv24

[acptulsa]

Sweet.

Now if we could just find a way to capture the magic of that old slogan.

Answer the Call for Paul?

Paul is On the Ball?

Real Americans Fall for Paul?

Or maybe it doesn't need to rhyme. I prefer Paul?

[malkusm]

Paul or Nothing

[freedom-maniac]

Answer the Call for Paul sounds too Religious. I thought the slogans based off of him being a Doctor (Dr. Paul cured my apathy, etc.) were clever.

[Michael P]

I don't think we should continue to compare Ron Paul to other Presidents, too many people disagree on who he's more like....Ron Paul is his own man, but to me he seems to be closest to Thomas Jefferson in ideals.

Either way our objective is to get him elected!

Compare him to Rocky Balboa?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuKXjbhikeU&feature=channel_video_title

[LibertyEagle]

Remember that what WE like isn't important. We're already sold. We are trying to attract mostly middle-aged and senior Republicans. What matters is what will reach them.

[Paulistinian]

Remember that what WE like isn't important. We're already sold. We are trying to attract mostly middle-aged and senior Republicans. What matters is what will reach them.

That was a reason I felt Eisenhower was a positive comparison, as people my parents age (70+) still remember Ike fondly.

[AuH20]

Hey, I recently joined ronpaulforums.com and I really like what I have discovered here. Something I have began to notice lately is how similar Ron Paul's message and his vision of the type of country the United States should be is right in step with how President Eisenhower lead. I know we are all familiar with Eisenhower's farewell speech regarding the Military Industrial Complex(full version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gahL5j4ack). Eisenhower to me represents the last great American President. So here is my question... how do we alert the GOP that they need to be looking for the new Eisenhower and not the new Reagan?

Do you know anything about Eisenhower besides that one comment? LOL Eisenhower's campaign was not only financially supported by the Rockefellers but he did there bidding as well.

http://www.truth-it.net/dwight_d_eisenhower_integrity.html


'In the Dwight D. Eisenhower (CFR) administration, Nelson (Rockefeller) helped to create and served as Assistant Secretary in the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, which now takes an even larger portion of the Federal Budget than does defense.

But the job of running a government is so immense that the Rockefellers must delegate most of the work to friends, associates, hirelings and agents.

Eisenhower's first Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles (CFR), was a Rockefeller cousin. Dulles' successor was Christian Herter (CFR), who had the good sense to marry into the Standard Oil fortune. Herbert Brownell (CFR) was a Rockefeller employee when Eisenhower tapped him to be Attorney General. Brownell subsequently selected hundreds of federal judges, district attorneys, U.S. Marshals, and White House staffers.

Seventeen other key figures at the top of the Eisenhower Administration were supplied by the Rockefellers' CFR.'


In April 1957, (Norman) Thomas, six-time candidate for President of the U.S. on the socialist ticket, stated that 'the United States is making greater strides towards socialism under Eisenhower than under Roosevelt'.'