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RonPaulFanInGA
05-28-2011, 12:58 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/28/could-kucinich-turn-wa-01-red-in-2012/


Dennis Kucinich spent last weekend about as far from Washington DC as he could get, and almost as far from his Cleveland district as well, to check out suburban Seattle. Kucinich will likely lose his Cleveland district in Ohio’s new Congressional map, which means he won’t have any hope of returning to Congress while living in Ohio. The state of Washington will pick up a seat, and Rep. Jay Inslee of Washington’s 1st CD is mulling over a run for governor rather than a return to Congress in next year’s election.

Kucinich obviously sees the D+9 district as a great landing place for an Ohio carpetbagger, especially with Inslee leaving the seat open. But could Kucinich instead turn an easy hold into a Republican takeaway? A new poll by Survey USA suggests that very outcome:

Incumbent Democratic Congressman Jay Inslee, from Washington State’s 1st Congressional District, is well liked and surrenders solid Democratic footing in that district were he to run for Governor, according to this latest KING5 News poll conducted by SurveyUSA. …

Given the choice between having a representative in Congress who shares one’s values or who has roots in the community, shared values is 3:1 preferred to roots. Yet at the time time, voters by 6:1 tell SurveyUSA that Kucinich would do a worse job representing them in Congress than someone who has lived in the District longer, indicative of the headwinds that an outsider, transplanted into the District for the purpose of running, would encounter.

Inslee’s favorability in the survey is +24 (56/32), not surprising considering that he’s on his sixth term representing the district. Kucinich, on the other hand, scores a -25 favorability (21/46). Kucinich’s favorability among Democrats is positive … barely, at 32/31. It’s a laughable 17/53 among independents, and 12/47 among self-described moderates. He also starts off severely negative on entrenched support/opposition at 15/38 regardless of opponent. Only 31% of self-professed liberals would vote for Kucinich above all other candidates; 57% want to shop around a while.

Even in this D+9 district in a Democratic state, Kucinich’s kooky “Department of Peace” initiative gets poor marks at 34/48, and among independents it’s a disastrous 22/59. Moderates in the district seem to understand that we already have a State Department for diplomatic efforts; they balk at the idea by a 30/51 margin. Kucinich’s main platform doesn’t get support from any demographics except Democrats (52/28) and liberals (56/22).

Kucinich’s attempt to carpetbag into a district 2000 miles away is a desperate attempt to justify his grip on power in Washington DC, a transparent effort that will get soundly rejected by WA-01. If Democrats want to hand this seat to a Republican, they could hardly do better than putting a lifelong Cleveland politician on the ballot.

Napoleon's Shadow
05-28-2011, 01:08 PM
He might be able to win it, but I don't know anything about the district.

White Bear Lake
05-28-2011, 02:13 PM
We could actually pick up a libertarian seat right here. A libertarian from the area could pick up some of the liberal votes that are angry with a carpetbagger. The GOP would be behind the guy because every conservative in the area would be gunning for a once in a lifetime opportunity to have a Republican representing them. If any libertarian in the area wants to try and run for congress, this could be their best shot.

Billay
05-28-2011, 03:28 PM
Hope so Kuchinich is a moron and I'll never understand why Paul supporters like the guy. He was shown Obamas cockpit and sold out on the healthcare vote.

nate895
05-28-2011, 03:44 PM
Inslee himself won by less than 20 last go around. There's no way Kucinich will win a GE there. He might survive the primary (even that's unlikely), but I doubt there's a way he can win the GE.

Koz
05-28-2011, 04:11 PM
I pray this is Kucinich's last term in congress. He's the enemy in my opinion.

emr1028
05-28-2011, 04:27 PM
Kucinich is one of the few allies we have. I'd rather have him take the set than another empty suit republican.

cindy25
05-28-2011, 06:33 PM
Kucinich is better than most; against the war, against the patriot act.

but I think he would have to resign his Ohio seat just to establish residence in WA

Batman
05-28-2011, 07:28 PM
Hope so Kuchinich is a moron and I'll never understand why Paul supporters like the guy. He was shown Obamas cockpit and sold out on the healthcare vote.


How could he sell out on healthcare? He was never on our side of the debate to begin with.

nate895
05-28-2011, 07:32 PM
How could he sell out on healthcare? He was never on our side of the debate to begin with.

Because he didn't end up demanding universal healthcare, as promised. I generally hope that advocates of universal healthcare "sell out" myself.

sailingaway
05-28-2011, 07:35 PM
ppp polled him up there and he did quite badly.

LatinsforPaul
05-28-2011, 07:38 PM
He doesn't have to worry. He is going to be President Paul's Secretary of State. ;)

emr1028
05-28-2011, 07:45 PM
He doesn't have to worry. He is going to be President Paul's Secretary of State. ;)

I really think that if Paul won, Kucinich would be a serious contender for this role, and I hope he gets it.

Carehn
05-28-2011, 07:51 PM
Kucinich is one of the few allies we have. I'd rather have him take the set than another empty suit republican.

Word

freshjiva
05-28-2011, 10:03 PM
I pray this is Kucinich's last term in congress. He's the enemy in my opinion.

He's not the enemy for one reason alone: he's not an Establishment politician. He votes on principle, just like our favorite Congressman. Sure, he's a borderline socialist, but he still votes on principle and doesn't sway to the charades of the Republicratic Party.


How could he sell out on healthcare? He was never on our side of the debate to begin with.

+1

specsaregood
05-28-2011, 10:15 PM
He's not the enemy for one reason alone: he's not an Establishment politician. He votes on principle, just like our favorite Congressman. Sure, he's a borderline socialist, but he still votes on principle and doesn't sway to the charades of the Republicratic Party.
+1

except that is the point. he sold out on his on supposed principles on the healthcare vote. This disproves your claim that he votes on principle.

AuH20
05-28-2011, 10:28 PM
except that is the point. he sold out on his on supposed principles on the healthcare vote. This disproves your claim that he votes on principle.

Yes. 1 Flight on Air Force One destroyed his stellar reputation.

Slutter McGee
05-28-2011, 10:28 PM
I would take an honest socialist over a political special interest hack any day. It drives me nuts that some people here like him so much, since he is so wrong on so many issues. But I think it is indicitive of the politics of today. We latch on to any bit of integrity we can find. And I can't blame people for that.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

anaconda
05-28-2011, 10:39 PM
Kucinich is one of the few allies we have. I'd rather have him take the set than another empty suit republican.

My feeling as well. Dennis stands up for the Constitution more than any other Democrat in congress.

anaconda
05-28-2011, 10:41 PM
So is Dennis gonna move to Washington state and do this? I'm surprised that Dennis has such dramatically negative ratings. He's exactly what the Obama voters should have voted for.

sailingaway
05-28-2011, 10:47 PM
So is Dennis gonna move to Washington state and do this? I'm surprised that Dennis has such dramatically negative ratings. He's exactly what the Obama voters should have voted for.

I suspect the negative ratings have to do with carpet bagging, as if their House seats were up for anyone from anywhere to come snatch up.

cindy25
05-29-2011, 01:59 AM
Hillary was a carpet bagger, as was RFK; just this week Hochel won NY 26, despite being resident of another NY district.

http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/1365070/more_modern_senatorscongressmen_representing_more_ than_one_state

emazur
05-29-2011, 02:28 AM
How could he sell out on healthcare? He was never on our side of the debate to begin with.

He knows it's pro-corporatism but supported it anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Ha8Xz7rAQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2UQRNSBFdU
He supported the bill b/c he was convinced it was the gateway to universal healthcare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHVe_JFdJgw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-n7TfWpH0g

Kucinich supported the pro-corporate health care bill and he voted against a full audit of the Fed (there's something else that goes against his supposed principles but I can't remember it now). He has the progressives' Achilles heel: he will vote for something he knows is bad if someone waves a carrot in front of his face (like how William Jennings Bryan voted in favor of the Federal Reserve Act). He's consistently voted against the wars, I'll give him that, but I have a gut feeling that he'd vote in favor of starting a new aggresive war or vote in favor of extending the Patriot Act if he was privately promised universal healthcare in exchange.

Batman
05-29-2011, 02:41 AM
except that is the point. he sold out on his on supposed principles on the healthcare vote. This disproves your claim that he votes on principle.

I was mad about his healthcare vote too because I was sure he was going to drag his feet until he got single payer universal healthcare. I'm not one of his fans, but if you know one thing about progressives, it's that they're not afraid of taking baby steps towards socialism even though they have momentum on their side. Freedom advocates, however, should take whatever ground they get because they don't have the momentum, but I see so many just giving up the battle if all of their goals are not met in one stroke of the pen.

Kucinich's explanation of his healthcare vote actually makes sense where he comes from. He's afraid there won't be any discussion of healthcare ever again in his lifetime, which is probably true the way everything is quiet on the healthcare front now. So he feels that he owes it to his constituents to get the closest thing toward his ultimate goal. Even Ron Paul takes what little he can get now and then, and the libstream media wastes no time in painting him as a "sellout" also. I'm reminded of that fat guy who called Ron Paul as much on his "oil subsidies vote".

Teaser Rate
05-29-2011, 08:19 AM
I really think that if Paul won, Kucinich would be a serious contender for this role, and I hope he gets it.

I have a hard time imagining anyone less qualified to be Secretary of State than Kucinich. I would rather take Cheney, Santorum or Giuliani than to have that joke of a man be our country's main representative to the rest of the world.

Wren
05-29-2011, 08:47 AM
Didn't he also vote against HR.1207? Or was that the watered down version?

Wren
05-29-2011, 08:49 AM
Just found this...sucks that he dodged Mox's question


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPUekxSGCKQ&feature=channel_video_title