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malkusm
05-26-2011, 09:40 PM
...and it passed the House today by a vote of 322-96.

Rep. Justin Amash introduced an amendment during the proceedings which would have struck Section 1034 of the bill. Section 1034 is named: "AFFIRMATION OF ARMED CONFLICT WITH AL-QAEDA, THE TALIBAN, AND ASSOCIATED FORCES." The text is as follows:


Congress affirms that--
(1) the United States is engaged in an armed conflict with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces and that those entities continue to pose a threat to the United States and its citizens, both domestically and abroad;
(2) the President has the authority to use all necessary and appropriate force during the current armed conflict with al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note);
(3) the current armed conflict includes nations, organization, and persons who--
(A) are part of, or are substantially supporting, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners; or
(B) have engaged in hostilities or have directly supported hostilities in aid of a nation, organization, or person described in subparagraph (A); and
(4) the President's authority pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) includes the authority to detain belligerents, including persons described in paragraph (3), until the termination of hostilities.

Amash posted this on his Facebook page regarding the bill:


just voted no on H R 1540, Nat'l Defense Authorization Act. The bill includes Sec. 1034, which I attempted to strike via amendment (supported by 21 Rs and 166 Ds). That section authorizes the President to use military force anywhere, anytime, against almost anyone without further congressional approval. A war against Libya, Syria, or any other nation would be authorized if this bill becomes law. It passed 322-96.

This bill now goes to the Senate. This bears repeating: If Section 1034 remains unamended, and the bill is signed into law, the President would essentially have limitless war-making power, unchecked by Congress or the people.

thedude
05-26-2011, 09:46 PM
this is such bullsh*t...

Between this and the USA PATRIOT act extension, today was horrible for the lovers of liberty and small government. If there is any time when we need Ron Paul in the White House more, it's now!

sailingaway
05-26-2011, 09:48 PM
Oh....

I was sure that was going nowhere.

Write Senators, I guess.

FrankRep
05-26-2011, 11:48 PM
http://thenewamerican.com/images/stories2011/08aMay/justin-amash.001.jpg
Rep. Justin Amash



The House of Representatives failed to remove a provision from the annual Defense Authorization bill that would give the President virtually unlimited war-making power in Libya and elsewhere, rejecting an amendment by freshman Republican Justin Amash of Michigan by a 187-234 vote.


Rep. Justin Amash Seeks Limits on Presidential War-making (http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/7648-houses-amash-seeks-limits-on-presidential-war-making)


Thomas R. Eddlem | The New American (http://thenewamerican.com/)
27 May 2011



Flashback:

Rep. Justin Amash Calls Libya Action Unconstitutional (http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/6766-rep-amash-calls-libya-action-unconstitutional)

Freshman Congressman Justin Amash (R-Mich.) claims President Obama is violating the U.S. Constitution by committing U.S. armed forces to enforce a no-fly-zone over Libya without approval from Congress, and he's got a strong witness in his corner: Senator Barack Obama.



Rep. Amash Testimony: Opening: War Powers, U.S. Operations in Libya & Rel. Legislation


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu0zmz_2zss&feature=player_embedded

malkusm
05-27-2011, 08:10 AM
Bump for those who didn't see this last night....gotta fight it

Lucille
05-27-2011, 08:12 AM
Thanks for the bump. I didn't see this last night.

What I don't get is how the Republicans can complain about CONgress not being consulted about Obama's Libyan War, and at the same time vote YAY! on giving the exec. branch sole discretion on going to war, anywhere, anytime, for any reason, without having to consult CONgress, and furthermore, that Obama opposes it, especially considering he's already doing it!

(BIRM (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?295222-Amash-Dear-Colleague-Letter-on-Authorization-for-Use-of-Perpetual-Military-Force&p=3302996&viewfull=1#post3302996))