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BamaFanNKy
05-26-2011, 12:36 PM
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/obama-administration-says-rand-paul-risking-national-security-by-delaying-patriot-act.html

CaptUSA
05-26-2011, 12:44 PM
Look at every response to the article! Not a one in support of the Patriot Act.

sailingaway
05-26-2011, 12:46 PM
Yeah, I commented and I'm tweeting it, saw yours.

Golding
05-26-2011, 12:47 PM
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/05/obama-administration-says-rand-paul-risking-national-security-by-delaying-patriot-act.htmlHonestly, if this quick a turnaround doesn't open the eyes of party loyalists, it's hard to imagine what will.

In a matter of just 3 years, we have gone from a Republican president invoking "national security" to criticize Democrat Senators for arguing against the "Patriot" Act, to a Democrat president invoking "national security" to criticize Republican Senators for arguing against the "Patriot" Act.

If it doesn't help people wake up a bit, I wonder just how stark the contrast has to be. Rand Paul has been a real hero this week.

White Bear Lake
05-26-2011, 01:06 PM
Well, we're finally getting the GOP back on the right side of issues.

BamaFanNKy
05-26-2011, 01:15 PM
Well, we're finally getting the GOP back on the right side of issues.

Or exposing how they are the same side.

White Bear Lake
05-26-2011, 01:22 PM
I should say we are getting the conservative base to realize what's going on. The establishment obviously isn't going to change.

PaleoForPaul
05-26-2011, 01:31 PM
Good, it's nice to see the Administration has to address what Rand Paul is doing. Also a quote from them:

“We cannot allow political brinksmanship to put our nation’s security at risk,”

HA! As if it's simply a political stunt and not part of a well held ideological belief.

Anti Federalist
05-26-2011, 01:45 PM
Honestly, if this quick a turnaround doesn't open the eyes of party loyalists, it's hard to imagine what will.

In a matter of just 3 years, we have gone from a Republican president invoking "national security" to criticize Democrat Senators for arguing against the "Patriot" Act, to a Democrat president invoking "national security" to criticize Republican Senators for arguing against the "Patriot" Act.

If it doesn't help people wake up a bit, I wonder just how stark the contrast has to be. Rand Paul has been a real hero this week.

That +rep

Just another exercise in the Continuity of Agenda.

goRPaul
05-26-2011, 02:35 PM
Rand is ruffling some feathers, that's for sure.

acptulsa
05-26-2011, 02:39 PM
HA! As if it's simply a political stunt and not part of a well held ideological belief.

What spin did we expect?

Yes, folks, the Democrats are having increasing difficulty justifying their 'good guys'. We need to emphasize Reid's flipflop the way we did Obama's flipflop on the Constitutional necessity of getting Congress' blessing for war.

Lucille
05-26-2011, 02:50 PM
Reason (http://reason.com/blog) is doing some great coverage.

President Obama Has a Much Different Opinion on the PATRIOT Act Than Did Senator Obama (http://reason.com/blog/2011/05/26/president-obama-has-a-much-dif)

Matthew Zak
05-26-2011, 02:59 PM
This is epic. The Pauls are creating a whirlwind in Washington... everyone is chasing their tails. GO PAUL! GO PAUL!

ItsTime
05-26-2011, 03:04 PM
I think illegally bombing and backing AQ in Libya is putting America in danger.

Freedom 4 all
05-26-2011, 03:15 PM
Rand isn't going to cave to Obama's bullshit. He'll hold fast to constitutional principles like Obama should have but did not. And the extreme contrast between the two will be open for anyone with an IQ over 60 to see.

Matthew Zak
05-26-2011, 03:38 PM
This election season is shaping up to be very colorful.

nobody's_hero
05-26-2011, 03:41 PM
I will not bother calling the offices of my U.S. senators. I WILL be calling my state representative and/or meeting him in person, to demand a recall of the U.S. senators Isakson and Chambliss. I do not think Georgians should wait until 2014 to retire Chambliss, or 2016 to retire Isakson.

Aratus
05-26-2011, 03:43 PM
bill of rights

QueenB4Liberty
05-26-2011, 03:45 PM
I'm loving this!!!

malkusm
05-26-2011, 03:52 PM
"‎This law - the very purpose of which was to protect us - [is] also threatening to violate our rights and freedoms as Americans. ... We have been forced to consider a piece of rushed legislation that fails to address the concerns of members of both parties as well as the American people. ... Giving law enforcement the tools they need to investigate suspicious activity is one thing - and it's the right thing - but doing it without any real oversight seriously jeopardizes the rights of all Americans and the ideals America stands for." -Senator Barack Obama, December 15, 2005

"The bottom line is that if these provisions are allowed to lapse, even temporarily, the nation will be less safe. ... We cannot allow political brinksmanship to put our nation’s security at risk. Congress must pass these provisions of FISA immediately." -Obama Administration, May 26, 2011

malkusm
05-26-2011, 03:53 PM
^Feel free to post that wherever you wish, expose the hypocrisy.

doodle
05-26-2011, 04:27 PM
Actually Obama's policies are putting America in danger if following is to be believed. This may explain why groping of Americans daughters and sons at airports, train stations and school proms has spiked to record levels since "Nobel Peace Prize" President's handlers started running America:


Osama bin Laden warned in the final tape he recorded before being killed by American commandos there will be no US security without Palestine security, an Islamist website reported Sunday.

"Accordingly, and with the will of God, our attacks will continue against you as long as your support for Israel continues," he warned..

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?291828-Drudge-Report-headline-distorting-news-about-Al-Qauda-claims&p=3260187&viewfull=1#post3260187



TEXT: Obama's AIPAC Speech
May 22, 2011 | 12:05 p.m.

Because we understand the challenges Israel faces, I and my administration have made the security of Israel a priority. It’s why we’ve increased cooperation between our militaries to unprecedented levels. It’s why we’re making our most advanced technologies available to our Israeli allies. (Applause.) It’s why, despite tough fiscal times, we’ve increased foreign military financing to record levels. (Applause.) And that includes additional support –- beyond regular military aid -– for the Iron Dome anti-rocket system. (Applause.) A powerful example of American-Israeli cooperation -- a powerful example of American-Israeli cooperation which has already intercepted rockets from Gaza and helped saved Israeli lives. So make no mistake, we will maintain Israel’s qualitative military edge. (Applause.)

http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/text-obama-s-aipac-speech-20110522


On the flip side, if "god blesses those who stand with Israel", maybe Obama's policies are good for Americans' liberties and these gropings are just to scare people for political reasons and train kids for a future police state.

Sentient Void
05-26-2011, 04:33 PM
Whether it's a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship... voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. [Just] tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same way in any country.

They've learned from the best.

Cleaner44
05-26-2011, 04:52 PM
Rand isn't going to cave to Obama's bullshit. He'll hold fast to constitutional principles like Obama should have but did not. And the extreme contrast between the two will be open for anyone with an IQ over 60 to see.

These asshats don't know what to do with a man of principles... "bu bu but what about compromise"

FreedomProsperityPeace
05-26-2011, 05:32 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4401826221_dd8236c8a0_m.jpg

Dig yourself a little deeper, Mr. President! :D

jmdrake
05-26-2011, 07:51 PM
"‎This law - the very purpose of which was to protect us - [is] also threatening to violate our rights and freedoms as Americans. ... We have been forced to consider a piece of rushed legislation that fails to address the concerns of members of both parties as well as the American people. ... Giving law enforcement the tools they need to investigate suspicious activity is one thing - and it's the right thing - but doing it without any real oversight seriously jeopardizes the rights of all Americans and the ideals America stands for." -Senator Barack Obama, December 15, 2005

"The bottom line is that if these provisions are allowed to lapse, even temporarily, the nation will be less safe. ... We cannot allow political brinksmanship to put our nation’s security at risk. Congress must pass these provisions of FISA immediately." -Obama Administration, May 26, 2011

This needs to be turned into a flier.

QueenB4Liberty
05-26-2011, 08:13 PM
I posted the quote on a liberal board with some more information. But I also posted the Texas vs fed TSA bullshit and it didn't get one comment so I won't hold my breath.

Bruno
05-26-2011, 08:18 PM
Honestly, if this quick a turnaround doesn't open the eyes of party loyalists, it's hard to imagine what will.

In a matter of just 3 years, we have gone from a Republican president invoking "national security" to criticize Democrat Senators for arguing against the "Patriot" Act, to a Democrat president invoking "national security" to criticize Republican Senators for arguing against the "Patriot" Act.

If it doesn't help people wake up a bit, I wonder just how stark the contrast has to be. Rand Paul has been a real hero this week.

+ rep!

Mind if I share your quote on facebook?

XTreat
05-26-2011, 09:46 PM
Honestly, if this quick a turnaround doesn't open the eyes of party loyalists, it's hard to imagine what will.

In a matter of just 3 years, we have gone from a Republican president invoking "national security" to criticize Democrat Senators for arguing against the "Patriot" Act, to a Democrat president invoking "national security" to criticize Republican Senators for arguing against the "Patriot" Act.

If it doesn't help people wake up a bit, I wonder just how stark the contrast has to be. Rand Paul has been a real hero this week.

+rep

I already shrared it on FB

headhawg7
05-26-2011, 11:34 PM
Or exposing how they are the same side.

+ rep

I find it hilarious(when I say hilarious I actually mean quite sad) how the democrats from about 2003 - 08 campaigned against it. Basically everything that bush did obama is doing. Where are the differences? Besides the rhetoric.....everything is the same and in some cases going even further. Reminds me of these people who want romney to win the nomination while at the same time complaining about obamacare and it being socialist. NEWS FLASH!!!!! Romney did the same thing in massachusetts. Oh yeah.....he sounds like a real conservative to me. People need to wake up......the choices being promoted are playing for the same team. The rhetoric is the only difference. When elected they vote for bigger govt.

Vessol
05-26-2011, 11:50 PM
This reads like a communication from the Politburo..thinly veiled threats.

Golding
05-28-2011, 12:18 PM
+ rep!

Mind if I share your quote on facebook?Go ahead.

Warrior_of_Freedom
05-28-2011, 12:20 PM
you know, something makes me think even if the patriot act was knocked down, something would happen, and it wouldn't be by 'Al Qaeda'