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RonPaulFanInGA
05-26-2011, 08:53 AM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/michele-bachmann-money-bomb-fizzles.php


Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), the national Tea Party star and potential presidential candidate who has mastered the art of rhetorical bomb-throwing, still hasn't quite gotten the art of the money-bomb quite right.

On Wednesday, Bachmann launched a money-bomb fundraising event entitled, "Make Barack Obama a One-Term President," tying the event to her own potential candidacy and the hopes of her supporters that she might get in the race.

"I need your help right now to show Barack Obama that he is no match for our conservative base," Bachmann wrote in an e-mail to her supporter list Wednesday. "We've set a goal to raise $240,000 in 24 hours, but we can only do this if you act now."

At time of writing Thursday morning, the counter on Bachmann's campaign site indicates that she has raised...$165,151, far short of the $240,000 goal.

Compare that to Mitt Romney, who recently staged a one-day fundraising bonanza, utilizing a nationwide phone bank, which took in a whopping $10.25 million.

Sola_Fide
05-26-2011, 08:53 AM
LoLoLoL

nate895
05-26-2011, 09:43 AM
We regularly fall short of our goals. For a spontaneous moneybomb, that ain't half-bad actually. Like us, Bachmann was simply overzealous in her goal. Our preplanned moneybomb barely exceeded $1,000,000, when the goal was generally thought to be $2,000,000. Furthermore, Bachmann doesn't even have an exploratory committee yet. If she actually got a campaign started, she might be able to raise a decent amount of money.

gaazn
05-26-2011, 09:53 AM
Using Money bomb should only be reserved for any day over $1 million.
But yes this looks like a test run

Sola_Fide
05-26-2011, 09:56 AM
Why is Mitt's corporate donor campaign impressive to these people? I thought everyone was against "special interests"?

reduen
05-26-2011, 09:58 AM
We regularly fall short of our goals. For a spontaneous moneybomb, that ain't half-bad actually. Like us, Bachmann was simply overzealous in her goal. Our preplanned moneybomb barely exceeded $1,000,000, when the goal was generally thought to be $2,000,000. Furthermore, Bachmann doesn't even have an exploratory committee yet. If she actually got a campaign started, she might be able to raise a decent amount of money.

Dude, first of all there was never a goal of 2 mill set for the last bomb. Barely 1mill you say? 170k is a far far cry from a million. Lastly, this is an "official campaign" type of effort for her, this was not done by her grass roots supporters.. Give me a break..

nate895
05-26-2011, 10:12 AM
Dude, first of all there was never a goal of 2 mill set for the last bomb. Barely 1mill you say? 170k is a far far cry from a million. Lastly, this is an "official campaign" type of effort for her, this was not done by her grass roots supporters.. Give me a break..

All the talk I saw was about $2 mil. Of course, many wanted to avoid goal setting for this exact reason. However, most of the activity in promoting it was predicated on the idea that we were shooting for 2 mil by the end, and then we downgraded to a million when we realized that was not going to happen. However, my point was that for just a couple of emails around, it was a pretty good haul for a non-Presidential candidate who only has speculation surrounding her. Of course, I'm just trying to look at this from a conservative analyst point-of-view, not some Ron Paul partisan view. In that view, of course this was a fizzle. When a million dollars seems like chump change for your moneybombs, 170K is going to look pathetic. I'm just saying that, in context, it is pretty strong.

reduen
05-26-2011, 10:21 AM
All the talk I saw was about $2 mil. Of course, many wanted to avoid goal setting for this exact reason. However, most of the activity in promoting it was predicated on the idea that we were shooting for 2 mil by the end, and then we downgraded to a million when we realized that was not going to happen. However, my point was that for just a couple of emails around, it was a pretty good haul for a non-Presidential candidate who only has speculation surrounding her. Of course, I'm just trying to look at this from a conservative analyst point-of-view, not some Ron Paul partisan view. In that view, of course this was a fizzle. When a million dollars seems like chump change for your moneybombs, 170K is going to look pathetic. I'm just saying that, in context, it is pretty strong.

Would you mind showing me information on where our last money bomb was billed as a 2mill dollar event in advance? I honestly have no clue where this is coming from as the first time I personally saw 2million mentioned was the day of and people were just speculating to my knowledge...

gls
05-26-2011, 10:29 AM
Would you mind showing me information on where our last money bomb was billed as a 2mill dollar event in advance? I honestly have no clue where this is coming from as the first time I personally saw 2million mentioned was the day of and people were just speculating to my knowledge...

There was a bar at the bottom of the widget leading up to 2 million:

http://i51.tinypic.com/vql5wy.png

Not that the haul the campaign did end up taking in was anything to sneeze at, of course.

amy31416
05-26-2011, 10:32 AM
I just think it's nifty that all these jokers are using our terminology now. "Money Bomb."

nate895
05-26-2011, 10:37 AM
Would you mind showing me information on where our last money bomb was billed as a 2mill dollar event in advance? I honestly have no clue where this is coming from as the first time I personally saw 2million mentioned was the day of and people were just speculating to my knowledge...

Money Bomb Projections (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?291056-Money-Bomb-Projections&highlight=Moneybomb). That seemed to reflect the talk up to that point in time. Also, I don't know how you couldn't be somewhat frustrated with that total, especially when Mittens was able to raise 10x that (albeit, with a hall full of employees and volunteers), and Bachmann was able to get 170K on 24 hrs. notice versus 1 mil. on at least several weeks notice. Bachmann is at least competitive with Paul right now. I wouldn't underestimate her.

doodle
05-26-2011, 10:51 AM
Word is going around that Palin may drop her hat in the ring. Palin like Bachmann also seems to support saimilar religious wars ideas and might even be a curser also like Bachmann splitting pro religious wars demographic.

Agorism
05-26-2011, 10:53 AM
That's not so bad I agree.

reduen
05-26-2011, 11:04 AM
Money Bomb Projections (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?291056-Money-Bomb-Projections&highlight=Moneybomb). That seemed to reflect the talk up to that point in time. Also, I don't know how you couldn't be somewhat frustrated with that total, especially when Mittens was able to raise 10x that (albeit, with a hall full of employees and volunteers), and Bachmann was able to get 170K on 24 hrs. notice versus 1 mil. on at least several weeks notice. Bachmann is at least competitive with Paul right now. I wouldn't underestimate her.

We didn't have a set goal to begin with and Bachman did have a set goal based on what support she thought that she could generate. Looks to me like she only has about half of the support that she thought she had. Mitt's total were pledges only, he had a ton of staff that he may or may not have been paying (I really don't know) and to me you really can not even compare the two.

Yes, I am more than happy with just over 1mill that we raised given the circumstances.... From the way that I take your posts in this thread, I think that you will be pleasantly surprized with what is yet to come.... (Maybe not)

I personally hope that both she and Palin run, and I am kinda bumbed that Huck dropped out... I believe that the more neocons that run the better it is for Ron Paul during the primary process....

gls
05-26-2011, 11:14 AM
I am kinda bumbed that Huck dropped out...

Not me. According to most polling data Huckabee and Paul share a lot of supporters. It makes zero sense given the major policy differences between the two, but the last thing anyone has ever accused the American electorate of being was rational.

BeautifulWorld
05-26-2011, 11:20 AM
I just think it's nifty that all these jokers are using our terminology now. "Money Bomb."

I've ponder this before; why wasn't the term or catch phrase trademarked?

BeautifulWorld
05-26-2011, 11:26 AM
We regularly fall short of our goals. For a spontaneous moneybomb, that ain't half-bad actually. Like us, Bachmann was simply overzealous in her goal. Our preplanned moneybomb barely exceeded $1,000,000, when the goal was generally thought to be $2,000,000. Furthermore, Bachmann doesn't even have an exploratory committee yet. If she actually got a campaign started, she might be able to raise a decent amount of money.

Bachmann is lofted to 'acceptability' status by the mainstream media while Ron Paul is routinely ridiculed with his statements taken out of context. Given that, I agree with the O.P.

hillertexas
05-26-2011, 11:34 AM
from Facebook an hour ago:

On day 2 of our money bomb, thousands have joined in support of a simple message: We cannot afford another four years of Obama. Click like if you’ll donate $24 or more to our money bomb to make certain that Obama will be a one-term president.
lol

nate895
05-26-2011, 11:40 AM
Bachmann is lofted to 'acceptability' status by the mainstream media while Ron Paul is routinely ridiculed with his statements taken out of context. Given that, I agree with the O.P.

Really, Bachmann, acceptable to the mainstream media. That has to be a joke, right? I mean, c'mon, even John McCain had 60% negative media coverage, and he's way more "mainstream" than Bachmann ever thought of being. Her media coverage is almost universally negative outside of FNC. The idea that any of the Republican candidates outside of the flip-flopper Romney and Gingrich are anywhere near acceptable in the MSM means that you define the MSM by FNC and its talking heads, which are on the fringes of the MSM.


from Facebook an hour ago:

lol

It was 24 hrs. starting around 7 AM Eastern yesterday (when the email got sent).

ItsTime
05-26-2011, 11:41 AM
Media keeps lying for Romney. He did not raise 10 million he got 10 million in pledges. And no one knows how much of those pledges where pledges from himself.

reduen
05-26-2011, 07:29 PM
Not sure what is going on here but I just got this message from Bachman.

Dear Chris,

I wanted to share some great news. We reached our goals for the money bomb and raised over $240,000! However our fight is far from over. The Democrats and liberal media have been watching our momentum carefully and are ramping up their efforts to defeat me and our conservative base. Your immediate donation will ensure they know you agree we cannot afford another four years of an Obama White House.

You and I both know that our shared constitutional values are worth fighting for and we won't apologize for it. We aren't going to stop spreading the truth about Barack Obama's socialist agenda. I will continue fighting to defund Obamacare, create more American jobs and revive our economy.

Please send a strong message to the Washington "elite" that you agree Obama should be a one-term president by joining Team Bachmann today at www.michelebachmann.com/moneybomb.

As my family and I consider what the future holds, I am so grateful for your continued support.

Michele

Sent from my iPhone

PaulConventionWV
05-26-2011, 09:10 PM
We didn't have a set goal to begin with and Bachman did have a set goal based on what support she thought that she could generate. Looks to me like she only has about half of the support that she thought she had. Mitt's total were pledges only, he had a ton of staff that he may or may not have been paying (I really don't know) and to me you really can not even compare the two.

Yes, I am more than happy with just over 1mill that we raised given the circumstances.... From the way that I take your posts in this thread, I think that you will be pleasantly surprized with what is yet to come.... (Maybe not)

I personally hope that both she and Palin run, and I am kinda bumbed that Huck dropped out... I believe that the more neocons that run the better it is for Ron Paul during the primary process....

But Paul gains from Huckabee, and possibly even from Palin. They're not ALL neocons in the strictest sense.

reduen
05-26-2011, 09:26 PM
But Paul gains from Huckabee, and possibly even from Palin. They're not ALL neocons in the strictest sense.

I personally do not believe that this is the case. It appears to me that most Palin, Huckabee, Bachman ect... supporters believe that we must support Israel at all costs and that they must regulate/outlaw behavior that they do not deem as appropriate. (drugs, prostitution, same sex marriage, etc..) It is because of this that I do not believe that they will ever support our good Dr. (Sad, but I believe it is true...)

specsaregood
05-26-2011, 09:44 PM
Really, Bachmann, acceptable to the mainstream media. That has to be a joke, right? I mean, c'mon, even John McCain had 60% negative media coverage, and he's way more "mainstream" than Bachmann ever thought of being. Her media coverage is almost universally negative outside of FNC. The idea that any of the Republican candidates outside of the flip-flopper Romney and Gingrich are anywhere near acceptable in the MSM means that you define the MSM by FNC and its talking heads, which are on the fringes of the MSM.


FNC is the most watched news channel, so yeah they are "the MSM". You can't be #1 and not be mainstream. And besides that, FNC IS the republican primary, the negative coverage on other channels is rather unimportant in regards to the republican primary.

sailingaway
05-26-2011, 09:55 PM
Really, Bachmann, acceptable to the mainstream media. That has to be a joke, right? I mean, c'mon, even John McCain had 60% negative media coverage, and he's way more "mainstream" than Bachmann ever thought of being. Her media coverage is almost universally negative outside of FNC. The idea that any of the Republican candidates outside of the flip-flopper Romney and Gingrich are anywhere near acceptable in the MSM means that you define the MSM by FNC and its talking heads, which are on the fringes of the MSM.


It was 24 hrs. starting around 7 AM Eastern yesterday (when the email got sent).

They ARE pushing her over Ron. I assume they think they can dump her at any time and being able to control her trajectory would prefer she be the tea party candidate. That is how they are billing her. (When it isn't Cain.) I agree she will be trouble because she draws a lot of people who might otherwise go to Ron, and being 2d and 3rd in a bunch of polls now STILL isn't making the conservative media treat him like a serious candidate. They simply don't WANT him to be one.

And for the money bomb, it isn't bad, except that it was the first one so everyone was looking at it as a test of her ability. We had money bombs during Rand's campaign that weren't bigger. One, anyhow. Mind you that wasn't a presidential race.

Paul4Prez
06-04-2011, 02:39 PM
$165K.... we'll beat this in the first hour tonight.

reduen
06-05-2011, 09:01 AM
Bachmann's Bomb is wasted by 10AM......

Napoleon's Shadow
06-05-2011, 10:31 AM
It's my understanding that Romney didn't actually secure that money, he just got $10m in pledges. I could be wrong though.

ItsTime
06-05-2011, 10:32 AM
It's my understanding that Romney didn't actually secure that money, he just got $10m in pledges. I could be wrong though.


That is the rumor. I would like to know if that is fact or not too. Guess we will have to wait until the quarter numbers come out.