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Reason
05-25-2011, 02:28 AM
Shit like this should be considered treason IMO...

Snippets from article below, read the full article at the link.

Senate Avoids Debate, Moves Patriot Act Into ‘Small Business Bill’ (http://news.antiwar.com/2011/05/24/senate-avoids-debate-moves-patriot-act-into-small-business-bill/)

"Senator Rand Paul (R- KY) stunned everyone yesterday when he announced that he intended to filibuster the planned four year (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55547.html) extension of the Patriot Act if the Congress did not agree to debate possible amendments."


"Fortunately for Sen. Feinstein, the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D – NV) sprang into action, and found a way to prevent (http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/05/24/harry-reid-pushes-patriot-act-past-rand-paul) any such debate from taking place.



Instead of passing the Patriot Act the Senate has now slipped the entire extension into a “small business bill” which cannot be filibustered."

Reason
05-25-2011, 02:35 AM
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/05/24/harry-reid-pushes-patriot-act-past-rand-paul

RM918
05-25-2011, 02:41 AM
Shock.

anaconda
05-25-2011, 03:23 AM
We are deep into the police state. The idea that Senate leaders would not welcome debate from all sides about a bill that severely impinges on civil liberties is very troubling. I hope Rand goes on the war path on the cable news shows next week, and specifically calls our Feinstein and Reid as police state fascists and utterly un American. And throws in the Ben Franklin quote.

cindy25
05-25-2011, 03:36 AM
couldn't Rand also do this, such as adding selective service registration repeal to this bill; Gravel used tricks like this to end the draft

Aratus
05-25-2011, 10:19 AM
its a thought... the proverbial
divvil is in the small print details

Anti Federalist
05-25-2011, 10:33 AM
Shock.

That ^^^

I'm stunned beyond words.../s/

COpatriot
05-25-2011, 10:35 AM
Disgusting

KingRobbStark
05-25-2011, 10:37 AM
I want to punch someone, preferably Reid.

JoshLowry
05-25-2011, 10:38 AM
couldn't Rand also do this, such as adding selective service registration repeal to this bill; Gravel used tricks like this to end the draft

I don't imagine they give unfilibusterable options to the freshman peon Senators.

amonasro
05-25-2011, 10:39 AM
Can Rand add anything to the small business bill so it won't pass? Like a "Reid Eats Babies" amendment or something?

ssantoro
05-25-2011, 10:39 AM
I can't believe we let these BLOODSUCKING VERMIN speak for the American people. Reid, prepare yourself for the devil has your soul!!!!

payme_rick
05-25-2011, 10:43 AM
I don't have any words... none...

Romulus
05-25-2011, 10:44 AM
We are deep into the police state. The idea that Senate leaders would not welcome debate from all sides about a bill that severely impinges on civil liberties is very troubling. I hope Rand goes on the war path on the cable news shows next week, and specifically calls our Feinstein and Reid as police state fascists and utterly un American. And throws in the Ben Franklin quote.

He needs to go public in a big way with this whole thing. We have a sham of a govt.

Again, this is why the Mob rigged the Reid election. If had lost, none of this would have happened with Angle in place.

Noob
05-25-2011, 10:48 AM
they are trying to add it to S. 990 The Small Business Additional Temporary Extension Act of 2011

kah13176
05-25-2011, 10:48 AM
Can Rand add a "cut off foreign aid" amendment?

Brooklyn Red Leg
05-25-2011, 10:49 AM
I want to punch someone, preferably Reid.

tsk, tsk. The Non-Aggression Principle frowns on such things. However, I think it would be schadenfreude for Reid to step in front of an oncoming bus tomorrow and go *GERSPLAK*.....

dannno
05-25-2011, 10:58 AM
I never realized how much I hated Dianne Feinstein..


Dear Senator Dianne Feinstein,

I am absolutely sick to my stomach, I can't stand this anymore. Who are you representing, exactly?

http://news.antiwar.com/2011/05/24/senate-avoids-debate-moves-patriot-act-into-small-business-bill/

I live in a very progressive area and I don't know ONE SINGLE PERSON who supports The Patriot Act besides my dad whose head is plugged into Fox News.

How does taking away our basic human right to an expedient trial keep us safe?? How does breaking the fourth amendment and spying on Americans without a warrant keep us safe?? You are endangering our rights, which is endangering me and I am going to do everything I can to see that you and people like you are never elected again if you don't change your ways.

Will you PLEASE step back and listen to Rand Paul, he is obviously a lot more in tune with progressives on this issue and with our foreign policy. If we want to stop terrorism, then we need to stop using our military to overthrow democratically elected governments and prop up puppet regimes in the Middle East to support the objectives of multi-national corporations at the expense of the sovereignty of foreign citizens. Why is that such a complicated subject? Why is that something that every lay person I talk to can understand, yet people in D.C. running our country can't understand such a basic concept? Where is the disconnect? Who exactly is pulling your strings?


VERY Sincerely,

Meatwasp
05-25-2011, 11:09 AM
Dannno,
I remember listening to KGO and Feinstein cheated Barbagalada (sp) out of the senate seat. I hated her from that day on.

Meatwasp
05-25-2011, 01:18 PM
Dannno,
I remember listening to KGO and Feinstein cheated Barbagalada (sp) out of the senate seat. I hated her from that day on.

correction. It was the supervisors race.

dude58677
05-25-2011, 03:12 PM
Sigh... If only Sharon Angle could have won.

anaconda
05-25-2011, 05:08 PM
I want to punch someone, preferably Reid.

We can make some snowballs in my Vitamix blender.

anaconda
05-25-2011, 05:09 PM
Sigh... If only Sharon Angle could have won.

Would that have made a difference? We'd just have some other puppet Democrat as Senate Majority Leader.

anaconda
05-25-2011, 05:10 PM
He needs to go public in a big way with this whole thing. We have a sham of a govt.

Again, this is why the Mob rigged the Reid election. If had lost, none of this would have happened with Angle in place.

Wouldn't we simply have had one of the other puppet Democrat senators step forward to do exactly the same thing?

FreedomProsperityPeace
05-25-2011, 05:16 PM
I hope Rand goes on the war path on the cable news shows next week, and specifically calls our Feinstein and Reid as police state fascists and utterly un American. And throws in the Ben Franklin quote.


He needs to go public in a big way with this whole thing. We have a sham of a govt.

+1 http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon14.png

anaconda
05-25-2011, 05:20 PM
I never realized how much I hated Dianne Feinstein..

My senator Feinstein is a real piece of work:

http://www.earthrights.org/campaigns/senator-feinstein-introduces-bill-protect-perpetrators-human-rights-abuses

anaconda
05-25-2011, 05:25 PM
Rand Paul was so totally worth it.

Mini-Me
05-25-2011, 05:25 PM
tsk, tsk. The Non-Aggression Principle frowns on such things. However, I think it would be schadenfreude for Reid to step in front of an oncoming bus tomorrow and go *GERSPLAK*.....

Punching Reid wouldn't really be aggression. It would be futile but satisfying self defense. ;)

JCLibertarian
05-25-2011, 05:33 PM
"Even with the extension, it seems very likely the Patriot Act will expire for a very brief period of time. The House must take it up and pass it - and President Obama isn't even back until Saturday."


I appreciate Rand's efforts, he made a noble stand and even though he didn't succeed in crushing the Patriot Act he made each of us as American Citizens freer for at least 3 days.

Napoleon's Shadow
05-28-2011, 02:21 PM
tsk, tsk. The Non-Aggression Principle frowns on such things. However, I think it would be schadenfreude for Reid to step in front of an oncoming bus tomorrow and go *GERSPLAK*.....
Sic Semper Tyrannis anyone?