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pulp8721
05-24-2011, 05:00 PM
Here's the most recent poll from New Hampshire

UNH/CNN/WMUR

NH Primary- 2011

Romney: 33%
Paul: 9%
Gingrich: 7%
Giuliani: 6%
Pawlenty: 6%
Palin: 5%
Bachmann: 4%
Cain: 4%
Huntsman: 4%
Santorum: 2%

Now compare that to where Ron was four years ago, at around this time:

American Reserach Group -May 23-25, 2007

John McCain 30%
Mitt Romney 23%
Rudy Giuliani 21%
Newt Gingrich 4%
Fred Thompson 3%,
Sam Brownback 1%,
Chuck Hagel 1%,
Mike Huckabee 1%,
Tommy Thompson 1%,
Ron Paul 0%,

:)

realtonygoodwin
05-24-2011, 05:01 PM
Romney gained more than we did though.

dannno
05-24-2011, 05:07 PM
Romney gained more than we did though.

That's because Giuliani/McCain/etc. aren't in the picture.

Basically look at all the other votes as voting for establishment Republicans, and voting for Ron Paul is anti-establishment.

4 years ago, we had 0%. Now we have 9% voting anti-establishment.

american.swan
05-24-2011, 06:02 PM
That's because Giuliani/McCain/etc. aren't in the picture.

Basically look at all the other votes as voting for establishment Republicans, and voting for Ron Paul is anti-establishment.

4 years ago, we had 0%. Now we have 9% voting anti-establishment.

That's just one state. Looking at polls for every state would show the same in every state.

realtonygoodwin
05-24-2011, 06:25 PM
DO you have national numbers?

pulp8721
05-25-2011, 12:40 AM
DO you have national numbers?

Zogby International- May 17-20 2011

Rudy Giuliani 26%,
John McCain 13%,
Mitt Romney 10%,
Fred Thompson 10%,
Mike Huckabee 4%,
Sam Brownback 3%,
Ron Paul < 1%


Here's the latest poll from Zogby International May 6-9, 2011

Chris Christie 17%
Herman Cain 14%
Ron Paul 10%
Mitt Romney 9%
Newt Gingrich 7%
Sarah Palin 4%
Tim Pawlenty 4%
Michele Bachman 2%

realtonygoodwin
05-25-2011, 01:49 AM
Thanks, but could we use a scientific poll? One that isn't a self-selected online poll?

One of these, perhaps? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

Paulatized
05-25-2011, 06:06 AM
I read a statement from a political commentator recently that Ron Paul has reached his ceiling and that he has maxed out at about 10%. I tried to do a search to find it but was unsuccessful. I don't think that's true but we've got to keep changing minds to avert what Ron Paul called his greatest challenge: The Status Quo.

sailingaway
05-25-2011, 07:05 AM
Zogby International- May 17-20 2011

Rudy Giuliani 26%,
John McCain 13%,
Mitt Romney 10%,
Fred Thompson 10%,
Mike Huckabee 4%,
Sam Brownback 3%,
Ron Paul < 1%


Here's the latest poll from Zogby International May 6-9, 2011

Chris Christie 17%
Herman Cain 14%
Ron Paul 10%
Mitt Romney 9%
Newt Gingrich 7%
Sarah Palin 4%
Tim Pawlenty 4%
Michele Bachman 2%

You CANNOT use the new Zogby they have gone to allowing self selection of the voting pool and certain supporter groups (Cain) register just to impact the polls. Those are completely divorced from reality. Others have a bias, PPP is a Dem poll, Rasmussen uses a likely voter model much earlier than others so comparatively leans GOP, but they are consistent within their own consequtive polls. Zogby's polls from self selected poll poos that Newsmax puts out without cross tabs are a joke.

sailingaway
05-25-2011, 07:06 AM
I read a statement from a political commentator recently that Ron Paul has reached his ceiling and that he has maxed out at about 10%. I tried to do a search to find it but was unsuccessful. I don't think that's true but we've got to keep changing minds to avert what Ron Paul called his greatest challenge: The Status Quo.

I hate that spin. They don't want to say he has tenfold increased his base at this stage so they say he has 'reached his cap' even though the supporting facts would be identical. If he is 10% everywhere now and was less than 1% at this time in 2007, how else can media try to make that look unimportant?

Ray
05-25-2011, 08:15 AM
That's an infinite % increase!