Ad #2

[mport1]

Here is the second ad. I think you will all agree that it is MUCH better than the first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU

[werdd]

i was gonna post this

[MozoVote]

See? It's not THAT hard to make a decent ad. Inexpensive, and to the point.

[winston_blade]

Nice and solid.:)

I'm happy with it.

BTW, has RP been hitting the spray tan parlors lately?

[werdd]

i think its pretty good though..... im not sure if its what people want to hear though, its what we want to hear...maybe not the demographic of NH

[njandrewg]

nice

[TheIndependent]

THIS is a great ad.

[BLS]

That's VERY good.

[ItsTime]

we are going to win New Hampshire!

I think Ill make another donation.

[Man from La Mancha]

Super:D:D:D


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[DrNoZone]

Now THIS is what the first ad haters wanted to see! The delivery was soooooo much better than that first ad. It's the ad I'm proud to be supporting with my donations!

[freelance]

Loved it.

[werdd]

it really shows that the HQ really does care what we think.

[Vvick727]

He seems very firm, which is great

[DrNoZone]

it really shows that the HQ really does care what we think..

Oh, I doubt it had anything to do with our bitching. It was likely already finished. I've heard they produced 5 ads, this is just the second one to be released. I sure hope this one gets run MANY more times than that first one does.

[Geronimo]

Nice!

[chandlerLBT]

i liked them both. but the second one was kind of bland. i think the first one would probably draw more people in to find out about Ron Paul though, because of how different it is. you have to remember that in a state like NH, they've seen every kind of political ad possible. i happen to think that cheesy and different will arouse their interest. and as we all know, once you draw them in to check out RP, they'll become a fanatic.

obviously other people have a different opinion than mine, and i'm not looking for a debate. thank you in advance for respecting my views, even if they differ from yours.

[ItsTime]

They already had this one made before you all flooded them with calls and emails :D


it really shows that the HQ really does care what we think.

[RevolutionSD]

YES! I like it 10,000,000 times better than the other one!

One note though, not a big deal but didn't Kucinich say he would end the war immediately too?

[mconder]

Hallelujah!!! I beleieve again.

I still think some of the emotional grassroots adds with music would be better, but this is a welcome move the right direction. In marketing, the ability to elicit emotion from the perspective buyer is the most important ingredient for any type of add creation. I think if they could move in the direction of eliciting the emotion of inspiration we all get from Dr. Paul, they will have perfected the formula.

[ItsTime]

Kucinich is not running for the Republican nomination


YES! I like it 10,000,000 times better than the other one!

One note though, not a big deal but didn't Kucinich say he would end the war immediately too?

[CasualApathy]

obviously other people have a different opinion than mine, and i'm not looking for a debate. thank you in advance for respecting my views, even if they differ from yours.

I don't respect your views at all ... :p

[MozoVote]

I'm quite open to the idea of featuring grassroots supporters in campaign ads. They should not give up on the idea - It just needs better execution.

[mport1]

YES! I like it 10,000,000 times better than the other one!

One note though, not a big deal but didn't Kucinich say he would end the war immediately too?

The add said he is the only one who would bring troops home immediately AND cut government spending.

[rodent]

Here is the second ad. I think you will all agree that it is MUCH better than the first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU

This one is very good.

[frasu]

Yeeeeeaaaah! Now that's way better! Ron Paul rocks!

[Paul4Prez]

How about a fundraising drive on the campaign website to fund another $1.1 million in TV ads, in Iowa, South Carolina, and Nevada?

The contest could run next week, from 10/29 to 11/4.

[RP4ME]

Here is the second ad. I think you will all agree that it is MUCH better than the first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU

whooooh! relief! Much better! in fact VERY GOOD!:D

[Ibgamer]

Whew, alot BETTER!

[FrankRep]

Awesome!

[kenc9]

Great ad, Ron Paul will come through with great ads just like his message is great.

[ronpaulyourmom]

He looks a little constipated, but the ad is much better than the first one that's for sure!

whew!

[ItsTime]

maybe I should say I hate it to keep this thread bumping. ... lol

[moonbat]

Very presidential looking I must say. :)

[chandlerLBT]

I don't respect your views at all ... :p

congratulations, if you can't respect my views, then my thanks weren't addressed to you. i thought that would be pretty simple to comprehend. i guess not.

[aravoth]

He looks a little constipated



??

[deedles]

I approve of that message

:)

[bolidew]

Looks a little too static to me.
I wish the background can be animated.

[goldstandard]

I also approve this message. GREAT!

[mport1]

Looks a little too static to me.
I wish the background can be animated.

Yeah, could have been tweaked a little.

[sunny]

yup, i like this one alot more. i like seeing dr. paul speaking for himself!

[A Ron Paul Rebel]

i think its pretty good though..... im not sure if its what people want to hear though, its what we want to hear...maybe not the demographic of NH

This ad is very nice... and I think it will work for most any demographic.

[ItsTime]

You do not think that the people of New Hampshire want out of this war? You are sadly mistaken there. And the issue of debt just speaks for itself...


i think its pretty good though..... im not sure if its what people want to hear though, its what we want to hear...maybe not the demographic of NH

[Lord Xar]

very nice.. clear and concise message.. my mother also likes it -- she wasn't crazy about the other one...

good going.. this is a keeper.

[Paulitician]

It's pretty good. Nothing jaw-dropping, but 1000x better than the first. I also wish the background could be a little more animated (maybe videos of him at rallies, of him at debates, of him shaking hands and kissing babies etc.). I know Ron Paul is being 100% serious here but that doesn't prevent him from putting on a happier face :)

[Jimmy]

110% better than the first! You want him to say alot more but there is a time frame obviously. Good job!!

[robertwerden]

thank You Dr. Paul

[evadmurd]

Short, sweet and to the point. Much better (although probably will reach a different demographic).

[jd603]

HE APPROVES the MESSAGE? , he is SENDING the message, I would hope he would approve it too, hehe , maybe they should change the very end?



Here is the second ad. I think you will all agree that it is MUCH better than the first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU

[freelance]

maybe they should change the very end?


It's required.

[jgmaynard]

BINGO!!!!!!!!!! That's it!!!! That is an ad that will appeal to NH! Thank you everyone involved in this!!!

JM

[hellah10]

much much better TV AD!

[iskimtsnow]

I like it. The only problem I had with first ad was the amatuerish quality of the video and the fakeness of the dialog. I think the message was good and would be ok with better production values.

[asmartchimp]

Love it!

[DjLoTi]

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

[walt]

Here is the second ad. I think you will all agree that it is MUCH better than the first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU

doesn't matter. first impressions are very important, the other ad MUST be pulled.

[vauge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU

Most excellent!

[Alabama Supporter]

Strong message, great ad!

[risiusj]

Already a thread

here (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=29478)

But I like your title better.

[risiusj]

I hope this one gets run a lot more than the first.

[KewlRonduderules]

Phew!!!

Much better!!!

:)

[cjhowe]

doesn't matter. first impressions are very important, the other ad MUST be pulled.

They made 5 ads, by the looks of it, they're going to run all 5.

[Alabama Supporter]

Much better. This one will work.

[DjLoTi]

Yeah I think this wouldn't have been as good without the ad #1 IMHO

[K1RBY]

this is GREAT....so good in fact that i can stop smiling...

[PaleoConservative]

solid effort. I like this one a lot more then the first. Run it like Crazy!

[max]

much better....


i would have liked to have heard an appeal to the viewer to visit his wesbite though...and he didnt say anything about taxes???? A quick mention about phasing out the IRS would have really differentiated him from the others....

this ad is a good hook...the website is what reels them in..

i hope some attack ads aganst Rudy/Romney are forthcoming...because even though this is a decent ad....I dont see it stealing votes from those two and that has to happen

[MozoVote]

Don't get me wrong, I do like this ad. But I can't resist a little tease. Just put a ticking clock in the corner, and follow it with:

"I'm Morely Safer"
"I'm Ed Bradley"
"I'm Leslie Stahl"
"These stories and more, and Andy Rooney, tonight on Sixty Minutes!" :D

[AdamT]

That Was Awesome!!!!!!!

[aksmith]

Thank God. Run Ron Run.

[ladyliberty]

I like the Constitution Background - nice touch!

[stevedasbach]

They made 5 ads, by the looks of it, they're going to run all 5.

Presumably they will monitor the response from each ad (e.g. size of website spike, increase in inquiries & donations, etc.) and use that data to decide which ads to run more of and which ones to let fade away.

Opinions are no substitute for hard data.

[Nathan Hale]

Much better, but I still have one issue - what's with the spray-on tan????

But seriously, the first ad did have good points. It communicated that you didn't have to agree with Paul on everything to vote for him, it communicated that undecided voters can go Republican to vote in the primary, and it communicated that Ron Paul's live free or die message is very NH=oriented. The only real problem with the first ad was the piss poor acting.

[RJB]

If the first one runs for a week then this runs right after it, I really don't think it will do any harm. It sets us up for this. The 2nd one rocks!!! Actually I think this should run in the first ad's place. It's the perfect intro.

[American]

I like them both, they both tell a different message the first one makes much more sense now.

[max]

though this second ad is good...I'm still waiting for an ad that appeals tol to the emotions...check out one of Aravoths videos (Ron Paul Stop Dreaming, Ron Paul Human Events)..and see what I'm talking about..

Aravoth operates in 8 minutes clips wheras these are 30 second spots...nonetheless, it can be done..

I show Aravoth videos to folks and they friggin start crying!...Thats what we need but I'm afraid the campaign is clueless on this..

we have to show people aravoths videos

[Energy]

The bronze make-up boggles my mind. It's inexcusable, how can they let that slip? It's like someone is intentionally trying to make each of these ads falter in some way.

[terlinguatx]

...

[MozoVote]

I was actually worried a bit, that the first ad could hurt his fundraising... NH is one of his stronger states for donations on a per capita basis. This one should satisfy people that the campaign can make proper use of its funds.

[Energy]

though this second ad is good...I'm still waiting for an ad that appeals tl to the emotions...check out one of Aravoths videos (Ron Paul Stop Dreaming, Ron Paul Human Events)..and see what I'm talking about..

Aravoth operates in 8 minutes clips wheras these are 30 second spots...nonetheless, it can be done..

I show Aravoth videos to folks and they friggin start crying!...Thats what we need but I'm afraid the campaign is clueless on this..

we have to show people aravoths videos

Hillary's NH ad is an example that has the music, crowd of supporters cheering (good social proof), video clips, strong voiceover:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB-Xqi_dcDY

[KewlRonduderules]

The bronze make-up boggles my mind. It's inexcusable, how can they let that slip? It's like someone is intentionally trying to make each of these ads falter in some way.


Troll?

;)

[ItsTime]

Ive seen that one a few times... I still have no idea what it says all I know is all those graphics are trying to fool you into thinking something shes not.

There is a reason she is not allowing comments :D


Hillary's NH ad is an example that has the music, crowd of supporters cheering (good social proof), video clips, strong voiceover:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB-Xqi_dcDY

[ItDoesNotStopWithRonPaul]

Nice and solid.:)

I'm happy with it.

BTW, has RP been hitting the spray tan parlors lately?

Maybe, but it's more likely that he has been out at our rallies soaking up the rays!

I like this ad much better. But the 1st one is not that bad. It is meant to get name recognition and to start building that "critical mass" by quoting normal-looking Americans. Multiple ads for multiple audiences. Unlike some of the other candidates, we have supporters and potential supporters of all stripes, so we can't focus on one kind of ad.

[Channing]

I like these ads even better:
http://www.operationnh.com/commercials.html

[Nate K]

good ad

[trispear]

I like this ad much better.

Unrelated to the ad, but Ron Paul speaks the entire time and he still has to say at the end "I am Ron Paul and I approve this message." LOL. Is this some sort of election regulation that makes him do this? I first started seeing this in 2000 or 2004 I believe.

[Perry]

WOW! We need more ads like that. And longer!

[Anti Federalist]

Phew....much, MUCH better.

Drive a stake through ad #1 and move on!

[TooConservative]

YES! I like it 10,000,000 times better than the other one!

It wasn't that much better. I only liked it 9,999,999 times better. :p

[Energy]

I like these ads even better:
http://www.operationnh.com/commercials.html

Those are beautiful (and done with just PAC funds? :) ).

I like how the voiceover said "... voted against the Iraq war but for going after Bin Laden"

Thanks for the link. And donate to their ChipIn.

[CasualApathy]

congratulations, if you can't respect my views, then my thanks weren't addressed to you. i thought that would be pretty simple to comprehend. i guess not.

I was making a joke.

At least i thought i was. ;)

[TooConservative]

I like this ad much better.

Unrelated to the ad, but Ron Paul speaks the entire time and he still has to say at the end "I am Ron Paul and I approve this message." LOL. Is this some sort of election regulation that makes him do this? I first started seeing this in 2000 or 2004 I believe.

It's the work of those notorious enemies of the First, McCain and Feingold (and Thompson).

Voting for that kind of crap should result in being disbarred if you're a lawyer and an automatic recall as having violated your oath of office.

McCain said this last week he'd push it through the Senate again if he had it to do over. At least Thompson shows some sense and says it was wrong. Thompson also advocates for instant online disclosure without donation limits. Sounds like Ron Paul. But I don't think Thompson has online donation transparency like Ron Paul does. I hope Dr. Paul brings it up at a debate soon. Fred just talked. Ron did it.

[LibertyEagle]

Yeah I think this wouldn't have been as good without the ad #1 IMHO

I agree. I hope they run BOTH.

[OptionsTrader]

Put ad # 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU)in a window, and chat with people about Ron Paul and be polite and fact based and positive. Drive up the comments. Move this baby to the top of all YouTube counts.

[TooConservative]

we are going to win New Hampshire!

I think Ill make another donation.

You guys kill me. LOL.

[OptionsTrader]

I'll donate a little rigtht now. I am stoked.

[Trance Dance Master]

It looks like the Ron Paul campaign had to make another ad just to please his sycophants. That's politics for you.

[OptionsTrader]

It looks like the Ron Paul campaign had to make another ad just to please his sycophants. That's politics for you.

No.

They have several in work. This wasn't a reaction.

[TooConservative]

Looks a little too static to me.
I wish the background can be animated.

How about this one?

http://members.tripod.com/coolgifs/swirl.gif

[yaz]

I talked to someone older, who is a hardcore Christian conservative, she liked the first ad way better. The second ad repulsed her because he said he would bring troops home immediately.

I think demanding the second ad was a mistake. The first ad appeals to older people, which is what he needs. It's hard for me to say that too because I like the second ad better. But I'm 19.

[dmspilot00]

Hm, the second one definitely looks more professional. It will sure help with name and face recognition. It's a little boring though, having one continuous shot.

Now, I really have to ask, why did the first ad have an empty bluescreen? They should have made it black or superimposed the constitution on it like the did for the second. What were they thinking? If they would have done that, as well as fixed the fake acting and the negative opening line, it could have been much better.

[slantedview]

Praise Jesus! That is much better. I like it :)

[slantedview]

I like this ad much better.

Unrelated to the ad, but Ron Paul speaks the entire time and he still has to say at the end "I am Ron Paul and I approve this message." LOL. Is this some sort of election regulation that makes him do this? I first started seeing this in 2000 or 2004 I believe.

It may not be a regulation, but it's at least standard practice for political ads.

[dmspilot00]

The second ad repulsed her because he said he would bring troops home immediately.


:confused:

The first ad said he would bring the troops home "pronto."

[Trance Dance Master]

No.

They have several in work. This wasn't a reaction.
I'll buy that for an out of the money one dollar call option one day prior to expiration.

[OptionsTrader]

FYI,

I just donated and it took about 4 minutes to process. It usually takes only 30 seconds for my name to pop up. System overload = good :)

[yaz]

:confused:

The first ad said he would bring the troops home "pronto."

Yeah I don't get it either. I'm guessing it's less obvious or not as bad coming from that girl.

[LibertyEagle]

I'll buy that for an out of the money one dollar call option one day prior to expiration.

Believe it. It was announced more than a week ago that they were going to run FIVE ads in New Hampshire. Now, if you'd rather dream up another reality, then by all means.

[UCFGavin]

i like this one a lot more

[granny miller]

Much better!
That 1st one really had me scared:eek:

[Don]

I posted this elsewhere, but I think it is worth re-iterating:

"I do read Daily Paul, the forums, and stay in touch with key activists around the country. I can assure you that the concerns about this (the first) ad have been duly noted by the senior staff.

We remain confident in our ad strategy, of which this ad is a small part with a limited function...increase our woefully low name recognition among older conservative New Hampshire voters. Let me clear up a couple of misconceptions that seem to be floating out there.

One - we used supporters, not actors. The people you are slamming are...well, you.

Two - This ad is not running on Family Guy or Daily Show, it is running on Wheel of Fortune and The Price is Right, for example.

Three - Within the target demographic, the response has been very positive.

Four - It does not have an "amateurish" and "local cable" look for no reason. Please contemplate this further before lighting your torches and grabbing your pitchforks.

Five - This ad is the follow up to the "Bio Book" that was mailed earlier in the week and is designed to be one of many touches of these voters that we will make in the next couple of months

We, the national campaign, have come under blistering attack on these forums since day 1, yet look at where we are at. I just heard a McLaughlin Group commentator boldly predict that Ron Paul WILL be the big story coming out of the New Hampshire primary. We are flush with cash, have a massive grassroots machine and the best candidate by far. You all deserve much of the credit for that and we at HQ are deeply appreciative of all of your efforts.

We, the senior staff, are human beings and will make no claim to perfect knowledge or infallible decision making ability, but I think we have developed a track record of success that has also earned us a little benefit of the doubt."

Don Rasmussen
Special Assistant
Ron Paul 2008 PCC

[trispear]

I talked to someone older, who is a hardcore Christian conservative, she liked the first ad way better. The second ad repulsed her because he said he would bring troops home immediately.“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
-Gandhi

[Trance Dance Master]

Believe it. It was announced more than a week ago that they were going to run FIVE ads in New Hampshire. Now, if you'd rather dream up another reality, then by all means.

Got a link to support your spin on events?

[stevedasbach]

Hm, the second one definitely looks more professional. It will sure help with name and face recognition. It's a little boring though, having one continuous shot.

Now, I really have to ask, why did the first ad have an empty bluescreen? They should have made it black or superimposed the constitution on it like the did for the second. What were they thinking? If they would have done that, as well as fixed the fake acting and the negative opening line, it could have been much better.

Chances are they just posted it before the background was inserted. My guess is that the broadcast copy will have a different background.

[yaz]

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
-Gandhi

Most Christians proclaim to be Christians when they really aren't. The person I talked to really is though. I explained to her about borders here being more important than Iraq's and she said that that made sense.

[stevedasbach]

I'll buy that for an out of the money one dollar call option one day prior to expiration.

They had announced that they had several ads (five as I recall) in production a few days before the first one was released. The 2nd ad wasn't a reaction to negative feedback to the first. OTOH, they may well have decided to release it earlier than originally planned.

[amakris]

Now THAT'S an ad.

[Trance Dance Master]

They had announced that they had several ads (five as I recall) in production a few days before the first one was released. The 2nd ad wasn't a reaction to negative feedback to the first. OTOH, they may well have decided to release it earlier than originally planned.
It's good to make up stories and say you recall them happening. Improves your credibility.

[alicegardener]

Well I'm sixty and I like the second ad MUCH better. Those people in the first ad sounded like they had memorized a script. There must be hundreds of clips of real interviews of RP supporters that they could have drawn from, ones that were spontaneous.

I agree with some of the others here who would love to show the good doctor in his happier mode.

[mtbaird5687]

Damn, the new ad is great. Good job whoever made it.

[Trance Dance Master]

There must be hundreds of clips of real interviews of RP supporters that they could have drawn from, ones that were spontaneous.
And we're all pretty scary to most people.

[Vaughn]

I love it!

[0zzy]

I love it! if they tweaked the background with all the cool pics, him with Reagan and all, it'd even be better! but much better!

[DXDoug]

Yes i thought this Ad was perfect :D

[Hook]

We probably like it because it talks about specific issues and specific actions. But we are not representative of the average voter. Most people don't care about issues as much as they care about how the candidate makes them feel and how others are voting. So the first ad probably caters to the sheeple, and the second one caters to us.

[ClayTrainor]

woooooooooohoooo, im so glad they changed it.

[The Dane]

In this ad everyone should be able to see that RP is the guy with the biggest balls.

Super ad, party time :D

[ConstitutionGal]

FANTASTIC!! The good Doctor opens up with a bit of humor and then SLAM DUNK he sets himself apart and above the rest of the pack!!

WAY TO GO CAMPAIGN!!! RON PAUL FTW!!

[0zzy]

BUMP

I can't stop watching it :).

[paulitics]

good ad

[Green Mountain Boy]

woooooooooohoooo, im so glad they changed it.

They didn't change it yet...this is just the second ad in the series of 5.

[Akus]

Here is the second ad. I think you will all agree that it is MUCH better than the first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU

DAMN!!!:D

And I mean it in a good way. Two thumbs up. Definitely.

[hummtide]

yeah that first ad was sooooo very BAD!

[Dorfsmith]

Here is the second ad. I think you will all agree that it is MUCH better than the first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4vXZWxeuU

I was out Ron Paul sign waving today so I missed this until now. Thank God. I am so encouraged. Like I said, I lost a lot of sleep last night. This ad is exactly what I was hoping for.

[0zzy]

I was out Ron Paul sign waving today so I missed this until now. Thank God. I am so encouraged. Like I said, I lost a lot of sleep last night. This ad is exactly what I was hoping for.

Me too. I had dreams that the Ron Paul campaign kept on coming out with bad ads, and it was sorta weird. I think I'm obsessed.

[KewlRonduderules]

ZOMG!!!!! I had bad dream last night too!!! Somebody in the campaign committed suicide and it was down hill from there!

But it was only a dream.

;)

[c0unterph0bia]

Way Way Way Way Way better than the first ad

[SWATH]

Yes, that's more like it!

[jaumen]

This is much better. I still like the concept of the first ad, just not the execution of it.... hopefully they will redo that one as well, then we'd have two great ads from the campaign.

[stevedasbach]

It's good to make up stories and say you recall them happening. Improves your credibility.

Here is the New York Times article, dated 10/26/07, linked at ronpaul2008.com and discussed extensively on ronpaulforums.com. Clearly states that the campaign was preparing five ads, as I stated.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21484526/

As I stated, they didn't come up with the second ad in response to complaints about the first. It was already in production

[steph3n]

really good :)

[0zzy]

Here is the New York Times article, dated 10/26/07, linked at ronpaul2008.com and discussed extensively on ronpaulforums.com. Clearly states that the campaign was preparing five ads, as I stated.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2148452 6/

As I stated, they didn't come up with the second ad in response to complaints about the first. It was already in production.

ownt.

[Duckman]

MUCH better! Maybe even improves the other ad...

[dt_]

shouldn't he introduce himself as a Congressman? would lend him a bit more credibility no?

[0zzy]

shouldn't he introduce himself as a Congressman? would lend him a bit more credibility no?

He said he was in congress "never voted for an unbalanced budget" He only has 30 seconds :)

[literatim]

It needs music. :)

[Tidewise]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the first one.