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Sonic Raider
05-23-2011, 07:52 AM
Do you think Ron Paul "sold out" after watching this video? I seriously hope not because he was my only hope for our country to get back to what it should be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc8XRhcn1hY

robertwerden
05-23-2011, 09:29 AM
Ron is a smart guy, and rarely does he play the Washington game. If he had to play the game, i'm sure there is a hell of a good reason. I personally don't give a shit if he made a deal to support other Republicans only in Texas. It is still up to the voters to decide who stays and who goes. If there was ever a time to play the game, it is now. On the cusp of a genuine chance of becoming the Republican nominee I give Ron a pass as many others surely do as well. We are in it to win and making deals that ensure victory as minor as endorsing a few people is not something that I see as anything more than scratching the back of the powers that be to get into the nomination.

We all know Ron will be a great president. Id rather see him break his promises to the party after getting to the white house than breaking his promises to the cause of liberty like every other president has done.

Chester Copperpot
05-23-2011, 09:34 AM
ron has explained all this before

RM918
05-23-2011, 09:35 AM
Unless that video details how Ron now wants to nuke the Middle East and officially put the Fed in charge of the treasury, no.

We've got big things, very very big things to worry about. There are a ton of little things to disagree on, but we'll take those on after the immediate crisis is averted, if there's even a chance for it to be.

RileyE104
05-23-2011, 09:43 AM
Pure libertarians often forget that Ron Paul is part of the Republican Party.

Just like Ron said in the video... "I made an agreement that I would support the Republican incumbents of Texas... I am the most independent Republican in Congress but there's a limit to how much independence you can get away with."

Anyone who thinks Ron can just walk the halls of Congress and the streets of Washington and do whatever he wants is out of the mind.

I DISAGREE WITH THE ENDORSEMENT, and I'm not a "Ron Paul apologist" - I'm just recognizing that this is the system we have right now. In a perfect world, of course this wouldn't be so and Ron himself wouldn't go along with this shit. Hell, he wouldn't even be a Republican if the two-party system wasn't so dominate and biased!

Ron has taken the role of working to change the system from within. When you do that, you have to go along with the system sometimes. That's just a fact.

CaptUSA
05-23-2011, 09:59 AM
I'm a libertarian, but I'm not naive enough to believe a Republican would be allowed to remain in the party if he didn't contribute to the efforts of their office holders to stay in office. I look at this video as a good thing. He answered the question! And he did it honestly and openly. He wasn't trying to hide anything.

We have to stop this insane purity test... Bringing together individualists for a common goal is like herding cats, but you will never be able to herd cats if you keep kicking each cat that walks along side the herd.

ronpaulhawaii
05-23-2011, 10:38 AM
I like John and Catherine to a point. I don't agree with all of their forms of activism (in regards to electoral politics), or their inconsistent philosophy.

Last week a few of us had a discussion with John after he put up this post:


John Bush - (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=29605152)Libertarians - If you truly desire to live in a free society, then it is by time you start building the free society you dream of rather than begging those in power to do it for you. There is no political solution.and here are a couple relevant comments:


Grant Warren (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1388785277) Wow. I was just reading on Texans for accountable Government that the political solutions are working and that our work is making a difference-you mean it isn't? Read the article: http://www.facebook.com/notes/texans-for-accountable-government/real-id-hearing-this-tuesday/10150171487497584
Ben Sizemore (https://www.facebook.com/Ben.Sizemore) Good point, Grant!

https://www.facebook.com/notes/texans-for-accountable-government/real-id-hearing-this-tuesday/10150171487497584

"Texans for Accountable Government Field Report: Phone calls are working. Please continue to call, and make sure that you are being polite...it feels like the momentum is on our side."

This sounds like TAG is suggesting that we should be "begging those in power". There is no political solution?
I simply account for their behavior with the understanding that they are young and have a lot to learn... As far as RP's political maneuvering, I learned on the Kokesh campaign that electoral politics is a contact sport and people who engage in it have to step up to, and sometimes hang their toes over, their "line in the sand". That is just a fact of life and as long as said individual does not fully step over the line, I do not condemn, nor nit-pick...

doctor jones
05-23-2011, 10:46 AM
John Bush is a self-righteous ass who looks at this situation from one perspective to draw half-baked conclusions. No matter who Ron Paul endorses via email when we're all in the grave, Ron Paul's plight, the campaign for John Bush's liberty, will far outweigh anything he will have achieved with two-bit ambush interviews.

Sam I am
06-05-2011, 07:30 PM
Ron Paul has always played the hell out of the Washington game, and very openly too.

He puts up a whole lot of earmarks, and he never turns down an opportunity to get attention and to deliver his own personal talking points on TV.

AdamT
06-05-2011, 09:22 PM
I saw this dude scream "f*ck Rand Paul!" last year at PorcFest. It was really sad and pathetic.