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Anti Federalist
05-21-2011, 04:27 PM
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Cops show up to question a man with vehicle that fitted the description of a "road rage" case.

Somewhere along the line the Mundane provoked some "cop rage" and he got pushed down the stairs by the cop that is now going to jail.

As they surveyed the scene of the man dying on the ground in front of them, one cop suggested that they arrest him, but they decided that just leaving him to bleed out was the best course of action.

So they did.

It wasn't until the dead man's brother showed up and called for help, was the man brought in for treatment, where he died a few days later.



Former Overland officer pleads guilty of involuntary manslaughter

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/article_8ad84330-8247-11e0-94ad-0019bb30f31a.html

aGameOfThrones
05-21-2011, 04:37 PM
That's incorrect, "involuntary manslaughter? They mean...voluntary manslaughter (murder).

Feeding the Abscess
05-21-2011, 04:40 PM
Here's another one for you, AF (courtesy of RP himself):

You are more likely to be killed by lightning than a terrorist.

But don't say it too often - we may end up with a War On Lightning.

BamaAla
05-21-2011, 04:45 PM
Dollars to doughnuts he doesn't serve more than 3 months in the county jail.

GunnyFreedom
05-21-2011, 05:03 PM
even if it wasn't intentional, it's still murder:



Depraved Indifference Law & Legal Definition

To constitute depraved indifference, the defendant's conduct must be 'so wanton, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon a person who intentionally causes a crime. Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the defendant’s conduct, not the injuries actually resulting.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/d/depraved-indifference/

So even without intent, the act of just leaving the guy there to bleed out is by definition an act of depraved indifference, and therefore constitutes the crime of murder - regardless of the killer's intent.

Wiki:
In many jurisdictions such as California, malice may be found if gross negligence amounts to willful or depraved indifference to human life. In such a case, the wrongdoer may be guilty of second degree murder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter


Depraved indifference murder was traditionally reserved for exceptionally heinous cases of involuntary manslaughter, where the perpetrator's conduct was so wanton and devoid of regard for human life that it could reasonably be equated with intent to kill. Some of the "classic" examples of depraved indifference murder are firing a weapon in a crowded place, dropping a heavy object from a height onto a busy street or driving a speeding vehicle down a sidewalk. Depraved indifference was generally regarded as a state of mind involving both moral culpability - the "depraved" part - and extreme indifference to the lives of the victims.

http://headheeb.blogmosis.com/archives/026517.html

Missouri, apparently, does not have a "Depraved Indifference" statute, HOWEVER, the Missouri statute for Second Degree Murder would tend to cover this crime:


Second degree murder, penalty. 565.021. 1. A person commits the crime of murder in the second degree if he:
(1) Knowingly causes the death of another person or, with the purpose of causing serious physical injury to another person, causes the death of another person; or
(2) Commits or attempts to commit any felony, and, in the perpetration or the attempted perpetration of such felony or in the flight from the perpetration or attempted perpetration of such felony, another person is killed as a result of the perpetration or attempted perpetration of such felony or immediate flight from the perpetration of such felony or attempted perpetration of such felony.
2. Murder in the second degree is a class A felony, and the punishment for second degree murder shall be in addition to the punishment for commission of a related felony or attempted felony, other than murder or manslaughter.
3. Notwithstanding section 556.046 and section 565.025, in any charge of murder in the second degree, the jury shall be instructed on, or, in a jury-waived trial, the judge shall consider, any and all of the subdivisions in subsection 1 of this section which are supported by the evidence and requested by one of the parties or the court.



http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5650000021.HTM


So yeah, by all accounts this thug is guilty of murder.

heavenlyboy34
05-21-2011, 06:08 PM
:mad: shared on FB. Thanks, AF.

pcosmar
05-21-2011, 06:32 PM
Cop pleads guilty in manslaughter case
Plea Bargain. After a civil case was settled and to avoid a trial.
He got a deal to plead guilty.

Good as can be expected, I suppose.

Austrian Econ Disciple
05-21-2011, 06:35 PM
If we can repeal the 86, 64, and 34 Gun Acts we could finally put the fear of God back into these thugs. How much you want to bet they would think twice if they knew the homeowner, or person otherwise whom is being illegally raided, searched, seized, or killed, had the capability to put 800 rounds down range a minute? These guys are sickening to the core.

fisharmor
05-21-2011, 07:11 PM
Twice in this thread these police have been referred to as thugs.
The word "thug" comes from the devotees of thugee, which was a cult in India up until it was stamped out by the British (who may have done something right here).
The thugs were confidence tricksters, masters of disguise, who attached themselves to traveling bands, often claiming that they would benefit from mutual protection (against the kind of thing the thugs were doing).
Then at some point in the journey the thugs would strangle everyone in the original party in a religious ritual and bury them where they wouldn't be found.

So by calling them thugs, you're saying cops are members of a religious cult who dress in costumes, seek the confidence of the people they deal with, waylay travelers, murder them, and cover it up afterward.
I just had to point out how incredibly germane that is.

pcosmar
05-21-2011, 07:27 PM
I just had to point out how incredibly germane that is.

Thank you for that, Some links would have been good though. ;)

I had to Google,,,
http://ramparts360.com/uncategorized/modern-thuggery-and-the-confidence-game/

Anti Federalist
05-21-2011, 08:06 PM
Plea Bargain. After a civil case was settled and to avoid a trial.
He got a deal to plead guilty.

Good as can be expected, I suppose.

After a civil case was settled, with no admission of guilt, paid off by the town's insurance company, whose rates will then go through the roof and get paid by...you!