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cindy25
05-20-2011, 06:44 PM
Israel of the 50s and 60s was far weaker; AIPAC was nothing then, and yet Israel did just fine.

low preference guy
05-20-2011, 06:46 PM
who cares? it's none of our business.

FSP-Rebel
05-20-2011, 06:58 PM
who cares? it's none of our business.

True but that's all the radio and tv hosts have been talking about today.

Sergeant Brother
05-20-2011, 07:08 PM
Personally, I prefer 1946 borders, but yes, its none of our business.

dannno
05-20-2011, 07:20 PM
What is Rahm saying about all of this?

skilt
05-20-2011, 07:34 PM
Rahm,

is an opportunist first, and a jew like 3rd or 4th. That guy would sell his mother, his God and his country if he thought it would help him achieve whatever success he needs to feel good about himself.

thehungarian
05-20-2011, 07:45 PM
I don't know much of Israel, but I think I've seen enough Planet Earth episodes to have an informed opinion. Does this not have to do with the plateau area of the Golan Heights that would be of strategic value to Israel's defense? From what I understand this plateau overlooks the slim 9-mile(or so) wide strip towards the north and would be silly to give up.

Dr.3D
05-20-2011, 07:47 PM
I don't know much of Israel, but I think I've seen enough Planet Earth episodes to have an informed opinion. Does this not have to do with the plateau area of the Golan Heights that would be of strategic value to Israel's defense? From what I understand this plateau overlooks the slim 9-mile(or so) wide strip towards the north and would be silly to give up.

That's pretty much my take on it.

robert68
05-20-2011, 10:39 PM
France was their main backer militarily during that time period, and also the Kingdom of Jordan next door was backed by the British. They’ve never survived on their own. And that’s not supposed to be an argument for the US backing them.

doodle
05-20-2011, 11:59 PM
Follwoing explanation I heard from a friend wat more spirtual than me after Israel got defeated in 2006 Lebanon war. Not my view, so don't ask me to rationally justify or explain it.

Back in the day, God's hand used to protect them but they have been disobeying God lately by holding same sex parades in Jeruslaem where God once walked. Therefore God is withdrawing His protection for them and allowed them to be beaten by ragtag group Hezbulla.

libertyjam
05-21-2011, 06:20 AM
I don't know much of Israel, but I think I've seen enough Planet Earth episodes to have an informed opinion. Does this not have to do with the plateau area of the Golan Heights that would be of strategic value to Israel's defense? From what I understand this plateau overlooks the slim 9-mile(or so) wide strip towards the north and would be silly to give up.

The Golan Heights were part of Syria in the northern part of Israel are different from the West Bank which partly border Jordan and the Dead Sea and different from the Gaza Strip in the South.

SovereignMN
05-21-2011, 09:25 AM
I think they are "indefensible" in that Israel could not defend the 300k (?) Citizens that have settled there since. This was their goal all along. Settle the areas in disputed territories so they have a reason to never withdraw.

Simon
05-21-2011, 09:58 AM
Back in the day, God's hand used to protect them but they have been disobeying God lately by holding same sex parades in Jeruslaem where God once walked. Therefore God is withdrawing His protection for them and allowed them to be beaten by ragtag group Hezbulla.

That's the equivalent of those who claim that Haiti and Japan caused their earthquakes with their own "evil". Sorry, most people just aren't superstitious enough to buy that one.

COpatriot
05-21-2011, 10:29 AM
You will NOT CRITICIZE ISRAEL!

Israel is ALWAYS right.

Israel first!

Dr.3D
05-21-2011, 10:35 AM
You will NOT CRITICIZE ISRAEL!

Israel is ALWAYS right.

Israel first!

Yeah!
U...S...A
U...S...A
U...S...A

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Is...Ra...El
Is...Ra...El
Is...Ra...El

specsaregood
05-21-2011, 10:47 AM
True but that's all the radio and tv hosts have been talking about today.

Turn off the radio and tv and email the shows and their advertisers and tell them you refuse to watch if all they are going to do is talk about Israel.