View Full Version : Peter Schiff: Beware the NIA (National Inflation Association) Penny Stock Pump & Dump Scam
Zatch
05-20-2011, 03:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8M7Q9T4NfI
UPDATE - Peter Schiff Responds to NIA in New Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZItpZ0TWXk
ctiger2
05-20-2011, 04:01 PM
Here's Lebed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFcgwZ3xjJg
The kid is super duper shady.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzdiDknxnSo
Chester Copperpot
05-20-2011, 04:06 PM
IS Ghemminger still involved with NIA?
Never trusted NIA.
Great vids, but they're always plugging something and they had scam written all over them.
knarf
05-20-2011, 05:05 PM
I was just about to post this, thanks
Cdn_for_liberty
05-20-2011, 05:07 PM
wow he's pretty late in finding out about this pump and dump scam
after Peter called them out, I don't think the NIA will be refering Peter for anything in the future
fearthereaperx
05-20-2011, 05:13 PM
Great Job Peter!
Cdn_for_liberty
05-20-2011, 05:36 PM
lol i'm listening to the Schiffradio loop right now. Peter is asking people to send in their contact info to schiffradio and he'll try to find a lawyer to start a class action lawsuit.
Original_Intent
05-20-2011, 05:59 PM
Well done Ghemmy. What a low life.
jtstellar
05-20-2011, 06:00 PM
lebed chose his way to become known to the freedom movement by coming out swinging at peter schiff at the height of schiff's reputation in order to draw attention to lebed's own business venture.. to anyone for whom this wasn't a huge warning sign, i mean, what can i say, it's just an absence of ability to read people to the most ridiculous extent.
this george guy actually became a long time partner with him.. it's just kind of funny.
EndDaFed
05-20-2011, 07:44 PM
Props to Peter for exposing these frauds. Alex Jones is running ads for the NIA. Someone needs to warn him.
ClayTrainor
05-20-2011, 08:14 PM
Ghemmy responds...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIubXcr0iVo
low preference guy
05-20-2011, 08:16 PM
who is this Ghemmy guy? i wasn't a forum regular when he was here.
low preference guy
05-20-2011, 08:18 PM
Ghemmy responds...
that was the weakest rebuttal i have ever seen
schiffheadbaby
05-20-2011, 08:20 PM
Ghemmy responds...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIubXcr0iVo
ghemmy is losing it, I thought he quit NIA a while back?
those guys do rip schiff's ideas basically word for word.
EndDaFed
05-20-2011, 08:25 PM
who is this Ghemmy guy? i wasn't a forum regular when he was here.
He use to come on to the forums and make up bullshit for attention.
low preference guy
05-20-2011, 08:29 PM
He use to come on to the forums and make up bullshit for attention.
does anyone have fun anecdotes?
Zatch
05-20-2011, 08:31 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if George lied about leaving NIA. His new gig "Survive and Thrive TV" is probably funded by Lebed/NIA scam money.
Okay, there is so much wrong with George's rebuttal that I'm going to number them off:
1. George states Schiff shouldn't attack NIA because both are supporting the same ideas, but then he goes on to call Schiff a scammer. Uh...
2. George states that Schiff ran for public office for his own pocketbook and interest (which I agree with), but does he forget that him and Lebed donated $2400 each to Peter? (http://inflation.us/donatepeterschiff.html)
3. Where does George defend what NIA is doing with any kind of facts besides attacks on Schiff?
4. Why does he state that people can figure out for themselves what is good and bad? Does he forget that NIA actually recommends good and bad stocks and investment choices, the same thing Peter is doing?
5. Does George forget that in 2008, Peter's clients lost money because they were invested in gold and silver assets, the exact ones NIA recommends?
6. George is mad that Schiff is attacking an organization that agrees with him, well, wait a minute, isn't George doing exactly that now by attacking Schiff?
7. George is mad that Peter used the word "scam." Uh...cry me a river?
8. Ron Paul did not raise $40 million in one day, he raised $6 million.
schiffheadbaby
05-20-2011, 08:34 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if George lied about leaving NIA. His new gig "Survive and Thrive TV" is probably funded by Lebed/NIA scam money.
what I don't get about ghemmy is he'll beg for money because of poverty and then in the next video he'll brag about how rich and smart he is.
LFG, ghemmy would make absurd claims like he knew a secret billionaire who would fund the campaign and really juvenile things like that.
he basically wants to get ppl to watch his stuff because he gets ad money from youtube. he is a lowlife of the worst variety
Michael P
05-20-2011, 08:34 PM
Ghemmy responds...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIubXcr0iVo
I haven't seen jealousy like this in a while.
EndDaFed
05-20-2011, 08:39 PM
does anyone have fun anecdotes?
Here's one.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?131218-My-Dog-looks-really-bad...
amy31416
05-20-2011, 08:44 PM
Huh. You can hear kids in the background...his wife must have taken him back. Poor thing.
jdmyprez_deo_vindice
05-20-2011, 08:50 PM
Oh come now... we must be easy on George! He obviously needs the money because his poor dog is even starving to death.
low preference guy
05-20-2011, 08:51 PM
Here's one.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?131218-My-Dog-looks-really-bad...
lol!
squarepusher
05-20-2011, 08:51 PM
what is this?!
Zatch
05-20-2011, 08:52 PM
G4T's butthurt rant just made him look more guilty.
EndDaFed
05-20-2011, 08:53 PM
Oh come now... we must be easy on George! He obviously needs the money because his poor dog is even starving to death.
That poor dog will never get his much needed treatment.
Cdn_for_liberty
05-20-2011, 08:57 PM
looks G4T and the NIA need someone else to rip material off of...maybe Damon Vickers? Glenn Beck's "Peter Schiff" replacement?
lol
schiffheadbaby
05-20-2011, 08:58 PM
Huh. You can hear kids in the background...his wife must have taken him back. Poor thing.
what type of woman would marry him? I never knew he was married, I wonder how much he makes from adsense
low preference guy
05-20-2011, 09:05 PM
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Zatch
05-20-2011, 09:06 PM
:D I wonder if Schiff realizes he just went after another scamming organization that has been endorsed by Glenn Beck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0m_a-br-OI
low preference guy
05-20-2011, 09:08 PM
Glenn Beck should hire Peter Schiff to vet his advertisers.
Zatch
05-20-2011, 09:18 PM
Glenn Beck should hire Peter Schiff to vet his advertisers.
I don't think Glenn Beck cares if Goldline is a scam.
Michael P
05-20-2011, 09:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTmcvKOeeV8
Same guy
Electric Church
05-20-2011, 09:36 PM
looks like that's the end for NIA and g for t
Zatch
05-20-2011, 09:41 PM
Same guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsC6y58dFiA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r79HSi5lmY0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTMeGUutyeo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx3fe3fFlp4
Zatch
05-20-2011, 10:19 PM
There is a rumor that ZeroHedge is connected to InflationUS. Does anyone know anything about this?
emazur
05-20-2011, 10:22 PM
nice avatar
looks very familiar...
http://www.naiglobal.com/common/gfx/nai_logos/NAN_00066207.gif
http://www.naiglobal.com/common/gfx/nai_logos/NAN_00066207.gif
Brian4Liberty
05-20-2011, 10:46 PM
IS Ghemminger still involved with NIA?
ghemmy is losing it, I thought he quit NIA a while back?
those guys do rip schiff's ideas basically word for word.
I wouldn't be surprised if George lied about leaving NIA. His new gig "Survive and Thrive TV" is probably funded by Lebed/NIA scam money.
IIRC, he posted a video about how he no longer had anything to do with the shady people at NIA. And he defended them against Schiff recently? What a soap opera.
Zatch
05-20-2011, 10:48 PM
2nd UPDATE - George backtracks on his criticism of Schiff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZteJ49gktI
silverhandorder
05-20-2011, 10:54 PM
Wow this guys is just fucking ridiculous. How does he have any following at all?
This is quickly becoming an amazing soap opera.
One of the best threads in quite a while! :)
Brian4Liberty
05-20-2011, 11:40 PM
:collins:
BamaAla
05-20-2011, 11:53 PM
Glad I stuck my head in here. This thread is promising!
What's sad is that no one will admit to falling for them.
squarepusher
05-21-2011, 12:13 AM
Ghemminger wild dogs
/thread
low preference guy
05-21-2011, 12:21 AM
hehehe
Jordan
05-21-2011, 01:04 AM
There is a rumor that ZeroHedge is connected to InflationUS. Does anyone know anything about this?
Wouldn't surprise me.
eric_cartman
05-21-2011, 01:22 AM
so the "pump" was on wednesday at $0.37 and it got pumped to $.60 and closed at $0.47.
are there people who make money by shorting penny stocks? cause i agree with Schiff and this stock is probably going way down from here, so could you short this stock at the open on Monday and take money off NIA sucker subscribers?
ManofTruth was also involved with George in one of his videos. Something to think about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdTymGQbZd8&feature=related
Zatch
05-21-2011, 01:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cJlCvgq2ao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4AnOb2FoAw&feature=related
ManofTruth is a part of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yloely_r31M&feature=player_embedded#at=25
wow.
JackieDan
05-21-2011, 04:31 AM
Peter Schiff 2012.
NIA is a scam artist company.
EndDaFed
05-21-2011, 07:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3a4Z1dK25s
Tenbobnote
05-21-2011, 07:51 AM
The NIA respond. http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/05/national-inflation-association-attacks.html
Chester Copperpot
05-21-2011, 07:54 AM
Never trusted NIA.
Great vids, but they're always plugging something and they had scam written all over them.
+1
Chester Copperpot
05-21-2011, 07:57 AM
what I don't get about ghemmy is he'll beg for money because of poverty and then in the next video he'll brag about how rich and smart he is.
LFG, ghemmy would make absurd claims like he knew a secret billionaire who would fund the campaign and really juvenile things like that.
he basically wants to get ppl to watch his stuff because he gets ad money from youtube. he is a lowlife of the worst variety
tell me.. did GEORGE start that fucking rumor?!?
specialkornflake
05-21-2011, 08:59 AM
I came on here to defend George, because despite any shortcomings I thought he had the forsight to leave NIA for the right reasons. Then, to defend NIA and attack Peter then backtrack like he did in those two videos, what kind of a disconnect is that? I'm sorry George, get your act together.
Mitt Romneys sideburns
05-21-2011, 09:38 AM
George, lol.
"I have no financial investment on either side"
::2 minute earlier::
"I helped found NIA"
Hmm I had no idea that the people behind NIA were so shall we say... questionable? I did notice however that alot of the info they put out were stuff I had already heard Peter Schiff talk about.
I think these 2 hucksters picked the wrong political group to try and scam because I find most people in the liberty movement to be pretty intelligent.
Oh man. This is hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rHjuaymzyk
I want to see the one of him in a shower cap.
silverhandorder
05-21-2011, 11:20 AM
ROFL this guy is quality entertainment.
Danke
05-21-2011, 12:12 PM
Oh man. This is hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rHjuaymzyk
I want to see the one of him in a shower cap.
This video was uploaded two days before the Schiff response. Did his radiation burns heal that quickly? Maybe next he'll have a special burn aid formula to sell us. Or at least the stock in the company that makes it.
EndDaFed
05-21-2011, 12:33 PM
Alex Jones buying into George's bullshit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT92EoeVF34
squarepusher
05-21-2011, 12:47 PM
Oh man. This is hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rHjuaymzyk
I want to see the one of him in a shower cap.
fake
Romulus
05-21-2011, 01:33 PM
fake
you think? lol
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Funny/DogMowsLawn.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygTfpFsIpSw&feature=related
schiffheadbaby
05-21-2011, 07:50 PM
why is he in a car a lot in these videos? He's so dramatic?
Do you guys think he makes a lot off these scams? Is G4t in the top tax bracket?
BamaAla
05-21-2011, 08:39 PM
why is he in a car a lot in these videos? He's so dramatic?
Do you guys think he makes a lot off these scams? Is G4t in the top tax bracket?
I don't have any idea who the guy is and I wasn't on these forums when he was a member, but I think everyone knows someone like him. He's a dirty trickster who would sell his own mother if he thought it would get him 1. a few bucks or 2. a little attention. I doubt he is in any tax bracket; people like him don't tend to make very much money and what they do they would never dream of reporting. The truly "good" cons don't post their every move on youtube; they tend to be a bit more discreet with their scams.
Zatch
05-22-2011, 04:10 AM
George took his Schiff videos down.
messana
05-22-2011, 05:47 AM
Here's one of his responses to Schiff. Can't find the other one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrxrmHisD7g&feature=channel_video_title
messana
05-22-2011, 05:49 AM
Hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXDsxOXNfck&feature=channel_video_title
Bruno
05-22-2011, 07:02 AM
ah, memorires. :D
Michael P
05-22-2011, 06:17 PM
There is a rumor that ZeroHedge is connected to InflationUS. Does anyone know anything about this?
I don't know but I would be shocked because all along I have been thinking that NIA is garbage and the Tylers are legit.
silverhandorder
05-22-2011, 06:26 PM
hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxdsxoxnfck&feature=channel_video_title
rofl
PoliticalMetals
05-22-2011, 08:28 PM
Here's a summary of Andy Hoffman's take on this allegation, NIA's rebuttal and one question I wished NIA addresses instead of going after more personal attacks.
http://politicalmetals.com/2011/05/23/the-nia-friend-or-foe-the-schiff-vs-nia-debate/
Is it just me or does Georgefortitle sound like the voice for foamy the squirrel if it was slowed down to normal?
Jeremy
05-23-2011, 12:16 AM
Hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXDsxOXNfck&feature=channel_video_title
Fyi, someone stole that video. The original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc74b6aQ1n0
Zatch
05-23-2011, 01:15 AM
Everyone upvote all the comments that mention the Peter Schiff/NIA video in the comments for NIA's College Conspiracy documentary:
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?threaded=1&v=VpZtX32sKVE
Wow now I know why some people didn't like the NIA. Shady...
lol G4T and Lebed LAMO...
Chomsky
05-23-2011, 01:55 PM
I think NIA is connected to Alex Jones, they just posted their latest college documentary on infowars.com, this just keeps getting more interesting...
Hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXDsxOXNfck&feature=channel_video_title
Lmao is that Ron Jeremy?
Zatch
05-23-2011, 05:37 PM
UPDATE - Peter Schiff Responds to NIA in New Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZItpZ0TWXk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLbR7aB_xtc&feature=channel_video_title
low preference guy
05-23-2011, 08:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLbR7aB_xtc&feature=channel_video_title
lol!
silverhandorder
05-23-2011, 08:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLbR7aB_xtc&feature=channel_video_title
I like to play a game where I try to see how long I last before I turn off G4T videos. This guy is so ridiculous it is impossible to listen.
I like to play a game where I try to see how long I last before I turn off G4T videos. This guy is so ridiculous it is impossible to listen.
You don't enjoy watching train wrecks?
LibertyEagle
05-24-2011, 12:10 AM
Dang, I was too late. Looks like Ghemmy has been busy removing the videos and/or making them private. The good ones, anyway. lolol
Zatch
05-24-2011, 12:19 AM
lol at this one guy's comments on George's last video:
Why would the master Peter give you the time of day.......
.....can you get an autograph for me???
......But please don't get any Taco Bell sauce on it....
Bless you little heart....
wwwCrashJPMcom 1 hour ago
Nothing going down tomorrow buddy....
Peter is a God, and will OWN you this time tomorrow night...
Bless your tiny little heart...
wwwCrashJPMcom 1 hour ago
Zatch
05-24-2011, 12:24 AM
Dang, I was too late. Looks like Ghemmy has been busy removing the videos and/or making them private. The good ones, anyway. lolol
Looks like he got another channel banned who re-uploads his bullshit.
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