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ForLibertyFight
06-11-2007, 10:01 PM
http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=prince

as you can see all the topics are about Ron Paul and I think this is great

angrydragon
06-11-2007, 10:23 PM
Nice!

Revolution9
06-11-2007, 10:53 PM
I thought these list of quotes were great..and also it show why the folks there like him.. Most of them just want to smoke a joint, be left alone and have everyne else be cool about things.. No too much to ask..or is it..heh I also think potsmokers get a bad rap. They are some of the more curious and intelligent people I have ever met and have a sense of social justice. Enjoy these quotes.. I did..they are a great primer as well for anybody looking for some of the Docs powerful phrasings on his philosophies to convince the "neverheardofhims".

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Over the years we have had the opportunity to interview Ron Paul many times and in light of the recent runaway success and resonance of his presidential campaign, we decided to compile the Texas Congressman's best quotes on subjects ranging from martial law to the plunging dollar to foreign policy.

Compare these home truths to the cacophony of rehearsed establishment pablum spewed forth by Giuliani, McCain, Romney or any other of the shill candidates.


RON PAUL ON THE POLICE STATE & MARTIAL LAW

"If we don't change our ways we will go the way of Rome and I see that as rather sad.....the worst things happen when you get the so-called Republican conservatives in charge from Nixon on down, big government flourishes under Republicans."

"I think they're concerned about the remnant, the remnant of those individuals who don't buy into stuff and think that they should take care of themselves on their own, that they should have their own guns and their own provisions and they don't want to depend on the government at all and I think that is a threat to those who want to hold power. They don't want any resistance to their authoritarian rule."

"They're putting their back up against the wall and saying, if need be we're going to have martial law."

"We've heard all these statements by the President, by the administration, why they need more militarism at the federal government to keep people in check so nobody knows how this will turn out but I do know that the only thing we can do about it is try to alert the American people to what's going on so they can be prepared."

"It's getting close to it, it's called usurpation of power and it's done in many ways with Congress just going along because they're sound asleep and this certainly is an attack on our Constitution and on our freedoms."

"We might have to hope that our Supreme Court helps us out a little. The Court has been better than the executive branch and a heck of a lot better than the Congress, because we've given the President everything he's asked for and the President has been begging for all this authority, so immediately we have to hope that the courts will save us on some of these things. But once again ultimately its only when the people wake up and say they don't like this... sometimes the people wake up to late. Right now we don't have concentration camps, but like you have pointed out, the authority has been given so that concentration camps can come without Habeas Corpus. I have heard the argument that there is nothing else left in the Bill of Rights. If they can lock you up, what good is freedom of speech or what good is a gun? That is now part of the books, part of the law."

"You know there's nothing that guarantees that they will allow you to air your radio show forever. They have already trampled on our rights, they talking about putting people in prison today without Habeas Corpus... If we don't preserve our fundamental freedoms we can't fight back. I'm convinced of one thing, we could all be very very poor tomorrow and have to start from scratch but if we have our freedoms and we have our sound currency and we have the government off our backs, this country would rebound so quickly."



"I think they are always prepared and everyday they have more powers than before because under these emergency powers acts, the President now has more authority than ever. And the contest that is really going on in this Presidential election is are there enough of us that care about our freedoms versus those who are willing to succumb to the temptations of dictatorship. Just think of the attitude, what it was like right after 9/11 when they passed the Patriot Act, I said 'you know it's not even available, you can't even read it and we're getting ready to vote' they said 'it doesn't matter, the people want us to do something, this looks like we're doing something, it sounds good, there's no way I'm even gonna question this', so they voted for it. They got their signals from the people. it is true that there are a lot of people who wanted something done, the big question is are there more of them or more of us?"

"Congress has generously ignored the Constitution while the President flaunts it, the courts have ignored it and they get in the business of legislating so there's no respect for the rule of law."

RON PAUL ON BIRD FLU

"To me it's so strange that the President can make these proposals and it's even plausible. When he talks about martial law dealing with some epidemic that might come later on and having forced quarantines, doing away with Posse Comitatus in order to deal with natural disasters, and hardly anybody says anything. People must be scared to death."


"I believe it is the President hyping this and Rumsfeld, but it has to be in combination with the people being fearful enough that they will accept the man on the white horse. My first reaction going from my political and medical background is that it's way overly hyped and to think that they have gone this far with it, without a single case in the whole country and they're willing to change the law and turn it into a military state? That is unbelievable! They're determined to have martial law."

RON PAUL ON THE NEO-CONS

"I think the arrogance of power that they have where they themselves are like Communists....in the sense that they decide what is right. The Communist Party said that they decided what was right or wrong, it wasn't a higher source."

RON PAUL ON THE UN, GLOBAL GOVERNMENT & THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION

"Who do we have at the UN, Bolton, the arch Neo-Con warmonger and actually what they've done is taken the Neo-Con position on intervening on the internal affairs of other nations and regime change and they've institutionalized that in the United Nations, now the UN is in the business of regime change."

"I think the goal is one world government - we have not only the U.N. - we have the WTO, the IMF, the World Bank, then we have all the subsidiaries like NAFTA and hemispheric governments, highways coming in."



"We have behind the scenes a plan for a North American Union, that's the part that the American people are starting to wake up to, although we have a long way to go to wake up Washington. It's amazing to me how many people outside of Washington are very much aware of the plans with this North American Union, at the same time they are in total denial in Washington, except for the few behind the scenes who are laying the plans and providing the finances."

RON PAUL ON THE DEMOCRAT COWARDS

"Not a whole lot will change because the leadership on the Democratic side, even if they had their way, don't have a different foreign policy. They have been supportive of an interventionist foreign policy in the middle east, and they are not about to back away from that... They are willing to criticize the policy but only as a means to get power."

RON PAUL ON THE PLUNGING DOLLAR & THE ECONOMY

"They all believe in the federal reserve, they are not going to get rid of the IRS and the income tax. I think the dollar is going to keep sliding, which means prices are going to rise, when currencies self destruct, the end goes quickly. There are no signs that there is anything being done in Washington to correct the problem. Spending is going to continue and probably going to get worse, the deficits are going to stay high if foreign policy is not going to change."

"That's also part of the foreign policy to be in position to hold onto natural resources, that's one of the major reasons why we're in the middle east, so yes if there is a financial crisis, they're going to have the guns, and they have control of the natural resources... It's not a good scenario, because what usually happens when you wipe out a currency is that you wipe out the middle class, and we already see this happening. The standard of living is going down."

"They get a temporarily good deal but what it does is encourage us not to be productive, it encourages us not to have manufacturing any longer, we can let others do it cheaper, cheap labour, and then we buy it with cheap money. That is going to come to an end. That means later on there are going to be a lot of changes here. Domestically the interest rates are going to rise, the inflation rate, the price of all goods and services, that will rise, and the economy will weaken, so we have some very serious problems ahead."

"Economically the consequences will be that there's going to be a wholesale rejection of the dollar, because the world has trusted the dollar, especially since the breakdown of the Bretton Woods in 1971, when the linkage of the dollar to gold was broken, they still trusted the dollar as if it were gold, and therefore we can print the money and we can spend the money and foreign countries take our money, then loan it back to us, so they're getting a bum rap."

RON PAUL ON FOREIGN POLICY

"As a Commander in chief you could certainly handle the troops around the world. I would start talking to all our allies and tell them what the plans were and start coming home. We are now spending close to a trillion dollars maintaining our foreign policy. It's a lot bigger than most people realize if you add up the Dod, the supplementals, the interest on the money we spend and taking care of our veterans."

"We have turned our own country into isolationists, diplomatically we don't talk to anybody, we have more enemies than we've ever had before and fewer allies, and at the same time our ability to defend this country is being diminished on a daily basis. We worry about borders, all around he world, we worry about borders in Korea, about borders around Iraq, and what do we do with our own borders? Here we don't do anything."

lucky
06-11-2007, 11:14 PM
Most would probably be surprised how many and who actually smokes up now and again. Even neocons (or former) need to chill out now and again. Is this so bad?

angelatc
06-11-2007, 11:33 PM
Marc Scott Emery is a member of this board. Those are his boards. He's an exciting man who, unfortunately, has a dog in this hunt. He and two of his friends are facing life sentences here in America for breaking American drug laws, even though they were actually in Canada.

Google and Wikipedia have the details. They're currently fighting extradition.

It's that whole "empire" complex thing again.

Bradley in DC
06-11-2007, 11:36 PM
Most would probably be surprised how many and who actually smokes up now and again. Even neocons (or former) need to chill out now and again. Is this so bad?

The question is not whether it's "bad" or not, but whether that should be decided at the federal level or not. (and some of us who don't think it's a federal level still think it's bad)

Korey Kaczynski
06-11-2007, 11:37 PM
The shroomery.org people love him as well.

lucky
06-11-2007, 11:40 PM
To each his own.

rockfree33
06-12-2007, 12:01 AM
Yes, Ron Paul is for freedom and liberty for each individual, which means you can smoke marijuana legally (depending on which state your in). But, this should not be Ron Paul's campaign highlight. Mainstream public will mark him as someone who's just running on a campaign filled with stoners. As soon as Ron Paul gets mainstream media attention, that's when they will try to mark Dr. Paul as evil by allowing marijuana laws to be cared for by the states. This is when we need to stand up and present them with scientific facts that marijuana is no better than smoking and drinking and that the laws have no right to be carried by federal government but by the states instead.

Korey Kaczynski
06-12-2007, 12:37 AM
To each his own.

Psychedelic drugs, as a rule, as well as marijuana, cause no social harms if approached with the proper perspective. Most psychedelics are non-addictive and generally not a threat to anyone, including the user, if one is properly educated on the effects of the drug.

While they're listed as Schedule I, meaning that they have no "medical use" and thus must be banned, LSD and Psilocybin have been known to help cluster headaches.

An interesting fact is that GHB has two schedules; one is schedule one, and another is (I think) Schedule III for a specific brand. It's blatantly obvious that Scheduling is done for political (and corporate) reasons, as Schedule 1 explicitly means that there is no medical use of the drug in question (and thus it must be banned).

Revolution9
06-12-2007, 12:40 AM
the laws have no right to be carried by federal government but by the states instead.

Took your quote mildly out of context to bandwagon it.. Hope ya don't mind.

There is somethinbg to each State having its own say in the matter with some States saying it is just fine to have an Amsterdam style model. I think a State that did this would have a spike in tourism that would be the envy of the other Governors. A domino effect may take place where over a number of election seasons it is again a common Amercan plant with many uses from total utilitarian, through agriculturally replenishing the soils and providing safe livestock feed, cooking and food oils, medicine and of course recreation...like making sitting on the front porch in the summer an amazing experience.

On another note..I promise to bring it back around to Ron Paul:)...a team in The University of Alberta experimeted with an analog of THC [the most active molecule in cannabis] that was 100 to 800 times more potent than THC they have monikered HU 210...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HU_210

Not only were the brains of the mice they experimented on protected from inflammation common in Alzheimer as well as protecting neuronal markers but they also found a rapid increase in dendrite trees..the networks of the brain. It was like they were going from 8-bit processing to 64-bit asthe denddrite trees fanned with many branchings instead of just one or a few. So.. the next time someone looks like they are totally stoned and lost their memory they are just dealing with filling new neural pathways with information. Just think of all the potheads around the world reading Dr Pauls philosophy and wisodom and plugging it into their new neural net. A nice kit of intellectual morphology that may have a quantum conciousness effect on the game as it continues..

and remember..
Rudy McRomneyson Will Be Defeated!
Ron Paul 2008

Best Regards
Randy

Richandler
06-12-2007, 01:09 AM
Legalizing marijuana would catapult the US economy to a whole new level. I really hope all the pot smokers think about actually re-registering Republican in time for the primaries and overwhelm the electorate and throw Ron Paul into the nomination.