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Anti Federalist
05-18-2011, 08:45 PM
Reason is reporting that the reason for the deadly fusillade that killed this young man was from a cop's "misfire".

Marine Survives Two Tours in Iraq, SWAT Kills Him

Tim Cavanaugh | May 16, 2011

http://reason.com/blog/2011/05/16/marine-survives-two-tours-in-i


"Please send me an ambulance and you can ask more questions later, please!"

Guerena tells the dispatcher that her husband had returned home about 6:30 a.m. after work and was sleeping.

Prompted by the dispatcher, Guerena says her husband was shot in the stomach and hands.

The dispatcher asks Guerena to put her cheek next to her husband's nose and mouth to see if he's breathing, but she replies in Spanish that her husband is face- down.

The operator tells Guerena to grab a cloth and apply pressure to his wounds, but the wife responds frantically: "I can't! I can't! There's a bunch of people outside of my house. I don't know what the heck is happening!"

A dispatcher asks if the people outside are the SWAT members. "I think it's the SWAT, but they ... Oh my God!" Guerena says.

A dispatcher asks that she open the door for the SWAT, but Guerena replies that the door was already opened by police.

"Is anybody coming? Is anybody coming?" she asks.

The operator tells Guerena help is on the way, but they're still trying to figure out what happened.

"I don't know, that's it, whatever I told you, that's it," Guerena says.

Just after the five-minute mark, Guerena's end of the line goes silent.

The two dispatchers spend about four minutes talking to each other and calling out for Guerena while trying to figure out if the call is coming from the same residence where the warrant was served. At the end of the 10-minute 911 call, a dispatcher says she has confirmation that Guerena is outside with deputies on the scene.

Jose GuerenaThis is from Arizona Daily Star reporter Fernanda Echavarri's effort to piece together the death of Jose Guerena, 26, at the hands of a Pima County, Arizona SWAT team. Guerena, who joined the Marines in 2002 and served two tours in Iraq, was killed just after 9 a.m. May 5. Guerera had just gone to bed after working a 12-hour shift at a local mine when his home was invaded as part of a multi-house crackdown by sheriff's deputies.

Like enemy of the state Osama bin Laden, Guerena died with his wife close by. Widow Vanessa Guerena, who hid with her four-year-old son when sheriff's deputies raided the home, fills in detail that has been slow to come from Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik’s office:

"When I came out the officers dragged me through the kitchen and took me outside, and that's when I saw him laying there gasping for air," Vanessa Guerena said. "I kept begging the officers to call an ambulance that maybe he could make it and that my baby was still inside."

The little boy soon after walked out of the closet on his own. SWAT members took him outside to be with his mother.

"I never imagined I would lose him like that, he was badly injured but I never thought he could be killed by police after he served his country," Vanessa Guerena said.

The family's 5-year-old son was at school that morning and deputies say they thought Guerena's wife and his other child would also be gone when they entered the home.

Guerena says there were no drugs in their house.

Deputies said they seized a "large sum of money from another house" that morning. But they refused to say from which of the homes searched that morning they found narcotics, drug ledgers or drug paraphernalia. Court documents showing what was being sought and was found have not been made public. A computer check on Guerena revealed a couple of traffic tickets and no criminal history.

Tucson KGUN’s Joel Waldman says the SWAT team prevented paramedics from going to work on Guerena for one hour and fourteen minutes.

The sheriff’s department maintains that Guerena was holding an AR-15 when the paramilitary force fired 71 bullets in his home, but other key parts of the government story have collapsed. While PCSD initially claimed Guerena fired the weapon he was alleged to have been holding, the department now says it was a misfire by one of the deputies that caused this deadly group panic inside a home containing a woman and a toddler:

A deputy's bullet struck the side of the doorway, causing chips of wood to fall on his shield. That prompted some members of the team to think the deputy had been shot, [PCSD spokesman Michael] O'Connor said.

CrissyNY
05-18-2011, 08:48 PM
sad, sick, and infuriating

Kylie
05-18-2011, 09:07 PM
Disband this unit immediately.

Paramilitary. What the fuck is that shit?

TheNcredibleEgg
05-18-2011, 09:11 PM
End the War on Drugs = this chit stops.

Drug dealers are out of business and police raids are gone. Win-win.

fisharmor
05-18-2011, 09:41 PM
End the War on Drugs = this chit stops.

Drug dealers are out of business and police raids are gone. Win-win.

Yeah, right.
The war on drugs is an excuse, not a cause.
Check this shit out - evidence of what I regularly say, that they're only doing it to white folk now, too.

Who here has heard of this one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing


MOVE Organization is a Philadelphia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia)-based black liberation group founded by John Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Africa).
...
The police lobbed tear gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas) canisters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canister) at the building and the fire department battered the roof of the house with two water cannons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cannon). The police fired 10,000 rounds at the house in two hours. A police helicopter then dropped a four-pound bomb made of C-4 plastic explosive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-4_%28explosive%29) and Tovex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tovex), a dynamite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamite) substitute, onto the roof of the house without any prior warning. The resulting explosion caused the house to catch fire, igniting a massive blaze which eventually destroyed 65 houses. Eleven people, including John Africa, five other adults and five children, died in the resulting fire."


None of that had to do with drugs.
It's been going on since the beginning, and it'll continue after the end of the drug war.
Unless we all wise up and realize that this is the job description.

Anti Federalist
05-18-2011, 10:43 PM
Yeah, right.
The war on drugs is an excuse, not a cause.
Check this shit out - evidence of what I regularly say, that they're only doing it to white folk now, too.

Who here has heard of this one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing



None of that had to do with drugs.
It's been going on since the beginning, and it'll continue after the end of the drug war.
Unless we all wise up and realize that this is the job description.

Glad you brought that up.

Was well aware of the MOVE bombings, but sadly, just dismissed it at the time as "those damn coloreds, raising hell again".

Ruby Ridge, Rodney King and Waco woke my ass up.

It's all been downhill from there...

zacharyrow
05-18-2011, 10:53 PM
So terrible.

Mach
05-19-2011, 01:44 AM
Those LEOs sure do spread a lot of Domestic Terror wherever they go.....

squarepusher
05-19-2011, 02:52 AM
sick sick sick

squarepusher
05-19-2011, 02:58 AM
Old Soldier|5.17.11 @ 8:11AM|#

Correct. A misfire is when you pull the trigger and your gun doesn't go "bang". When you don't want your gun to go bang, but you are too stupid to keep your booger-hook off the trigger and it goes "bang", it's called a negligent discharge.

In the Army and Marine Corps, a negligent discharge with get you disciplinary action that can include reduction in rank or worse. On a SWAT it gets you a nice cover-up.

Freedom 4 all
05-19-2011, 03:19 AM
Old Soldier|5.17.11 @ 8:11AM|#

Correct. A misfire is when you pull the trigger and your gun doesn't go "bang". When you don't want your gun to go bang, but you are too stupid to keep your booger-hook off the trigger and it goes "bang", it's called a negligent discharge.

In the Army and Marine Corps, a negligent discharge with get you disciplinary action that can include reduction in rank or worse. On a SWAT it gets you a nice cover-up.

I find it interesting in a society that idolizes soldiers so much that we give cops so much more leeway than soldiers. Why is this?

Philhelm
05-19-2011, 04:08 AM
I find it interesting in a society that idolizes soldiers so much that we give cops so much more leeway than soldiers. Why is this?

Our government hates and fears its own citizens more than it does enemy combatants?


In any case, this story...really pisses me off.

Freedom 4 all
05-19-2011, 09:46 AM
Our government hates and fears its own citizens more than it does enemy combatants?


Yup

Pericles
05-19-2011, 10:20 AM
Well, they should be afraid of me.

VegasPatriot
05-19-2011, 11:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_E0n0MjKi8&feature=channel_video_title

MelissaCato
05-19-2011, 01:51 PM
This is tragic. Has the MSM even mentioned it ?