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LizF
10-27-2007, 08:50 PM
Homeland Security strikes deal with New York on driver's licenses

By DEVLIN BARRETT

Associated Press Writer

3:17 PM EDT, October 27, 2007

WASHINGTON

The Bush administration and New York cut a deal Saturday to create a new generation of super-secure driver's licenses for U.S. citizens, but also allow illegal immigrants to get a version.

New York is the fourth state to reach such an agreement on federally approved secure licenses, after Arizona, Vermont and Washington. The issue is pressing for border states, where new and tighter rules are soon to go into effect for crossings.

The deal comes about one month after New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer announced a plan whereby illegal immigrants with a valid foreign passport could obtain a license.

Saturday's agreement with the Homeland Security Department will create a three-tier license system in New York. It is the largest state to sign on so far to the government's post-Sept. 11 effort to make identification cards more secure.

Spitzer, who has faced much criticism on the issue, said the deal means New York "will usher in the most secure licensing system in the nation."

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said he was not happy that New York intended to issue IDs to illegal immigrants. But he said there was nothing he could do to stop it.

"I don't endorse giving licenses to people who are not here legally, but federal law does allow states to make that choice," Chertoff said.

"It's going to be a big deal up in Buffalo, it's going to be a big deal on the Canadian side of the border," Chertoff said.

The governor made clear he is going forward with his plan allowing licenses for illegal immigrants. But advocates on both sides of the debate said Spitzer had caved to pressure by adopting the administration's stance on tighter security standards for most driver's licenses.

GOP Rep. Thomas Reynolds, who represents the Buffalo suburbs, said he was glad Washington had heeded his concerns about border identification. But he said he feared that Spitzer "is taking this state down a risky path" by giving any kind of license to illegal immigrants.

Under the compromise, New York will produce an "enhanced driver's license" that will be as secure as a passport. It is intended for people who soon will need to meet such ID requirements, even for a short drive to Canada.

A second version of the license will meet new federal standards of the Real ID Act. That law is designed to make it much harder for illegal immigrants or would-be terrorists to obtain licenses.

A third type of license will be available to undocumented immigrants. Spitzer has said this ID will make the state more secure by bringing those people "out of the shadows" and into American society, and will lower auto insurance rates.

Those licenses will be clearly marked to show they are not valid federal ID. Officials, however, would not say whether that meant local law enforcement could use such a license as probable cause to detain someone they suspected of being in the U.S. illegally.

"Besides being a massive defeat for the governor, I can't imagine many _ if any _ illegal immigrants coming forward to get the driver's licenses, because they'd basically be labeled as illegal," said New York Rep. Peter King, the top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee.

New York has between 500,000 and 1 million undocumented immigrants, many of whom are driving without a license and car insurance or with fake driver's licenses, Spitzer said in September when he announced his executive order.

The administration has not finalized standards for Real ID-compliant driver's licenses. Spitzer said he believed the new licenses would meet those standards or come very close.

Many states say it is too expensive to comply with the law; seven of them have passed legislation opposing Real ID. Neither the governor nor Chertoff would say how much it would cost to put the system in place or who would pay for it.

Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties, said Spitzer's move effectively revives a faltering ID program. "The governor's stunning lack of courage is aiding the Bush administration in clamping down on civil liberties," Lieberman said.




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http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--immigrantdrivers1027oct27,0,674004,print.story

rodent
10-27-2007, 09:01 PM
You have no idea how furious I was when I read this. Time to move across the Hudson.


Homeland Security strikes deal with New York on driver's licenses

bbachtung
10-27-2007, 09:06 PM
The biggest problem in all of this is that this is all a result of the REAL ID law, which Ron Paul was able to kill once in the late 1990's (when Republicans were mostly opposed to it). It was reborn under Bushie, with the blessing of the then-Republican majority in Congress. New Hampshire has explicitly rejected REAL ID (along with its federal bribe money).

mannycp
10-27-2007, 09:58 PM
F**K The REAL ID

Malakai0
10-27-2007, 11:37 PM
I'm in a pretty big dilemma here. I highly doubt Florida will reject the Real ID. I am strongly against it and don't intend to accept it without a fight.

In reality, where I have to drive to and fro work everyday to keep the roof over my head, will I be able to reject it?

noxagol
10-28-2007, 06:42 AM
I'm in a pretty big dilemma here. I highly doubt Florida will reject the Real ID. I am strongly against it and don't intend to accept it without a fight.

In reality, where I have to drive to and fro work everyday to keep the roof over my head, will I be able to reject it?

Reject it, then don't get pulled over.

jgmaynard
10-28-2007, 08:57 AM
It's a frikkin' NATIONAL ID card and NY's biggest problem with it was the alien issue?!?!?!?!!?

Bloody 21st century Tories...... Grrrrrr....... ;)

JM