There are hundreds of thousands of people protesting in Spain, also a total media blackout

[emr1028]

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/hdkot/madrid_spain_right_now_the_protests_keep_on/

That's link will take you to a bunch of pics and videos going on right now, these protest seem comparable in size to Egypt's beginnings. The Arab Spring may have spread to Europe, which could explain the TOTAL media blackout of these protests:

http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&tbs=nws%3A1&hl=en&gl=us&q=spain#sclient=psy&hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&source=hp&q=spain+protest&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=fb5bbcd66868c58a

There appears to be a near total media blackout of this. The elites must be getting afraid!

[TheNcredibleEgg]

Aren't they protesting cuts in gov't spending?

Like the Greeks last year and (to some extent) the Wisconsin protests this year?

[wizardwatson]

Aren't they protesting cuts in gov't spending?

Like the Greeks last year and (to some extent) the Wisconsin protests this year?

Yeah, was my guess.

With the Arab Spring you have members of the majority fighting to oust the minority that controls them. With these anti-austerity protests in the West you have the minority (gov workers/unions) trying to keep themselves in power and well fed.

[Zippyjuan]

Tens of Thousands Protest Austerity Measures in Spain
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/tens-of-thousands-march-in-spain-to-protest-against-austerity-measures-banks-politicians/2011/05/15/AF13OH4G_story.html

[RonPaulCult]

Read the comments on that reddit page as I did earlier. All of the other people in spain are saying it's bullshit. I used to live there and I doubt very much there are HUNDREDS of thousands protesting anything. But hey - I could be wrong....

[Lucille]

Mish: Protests Mount in Spain; Sovereign Debt Crisis to Follow (http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/05/protests-mount-in-spain-sovereign-debt.html)



Hello Mish

Street protests are starting in Spain. Protesters call for real democracy and an end to corruption and big corporation rule, amongst other things. Organizers estimate the protest yesterday in Madrid was around 25,000.

Now there are protests planned in twenty main cities with camp-ins. It seems this is a non-union, non-partisan protest movement, particularly youth.

All the best, Bran.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar2nmOQZEjw

[Lucille]

zerohedge: Live Webcast From Biggest Spanish Protest Yet (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/live-webcast-biggest-spanish-protest-yet)

[KingRobbStark]

Now if only we good do the same thing (for different reasons).

[Flash]

Da 'gubmint takin' way my moneyz. Meanwhile immigrants will displace the native population of Europeans by something like 2030.

[nate895]

With the Arab Spring you have members of the majority fighting to oust the minority that controls them. With these anti-austerity protests in the West you have the minority (gov workers/unions) trying to keep themselves in power and well fed.

Except in Greece, where the majority are government employees from what I understand. Can you imagine a more effective way of staying large than employing more than half your workforce?

[kah13176]

Fuck them. They want all this government nanny-state, benefits, etc. Then their government goes bankrupt, and the IMF (the United States) bails them out, exactly what happened with Greece. Selfish bastards.

Nothing is more arrogant than the attitude of one who thinks they're "entitled".

[One Last Battle!]

Honestly, I hope they succeed. Okay, I suspect they would push for Socialism and go nuts, but if they do that the entire crooked system will collapse in on itself, and the sooner that happens the less painful the crash will be.

[nobody's_hero]

The same thing would happen here if they stop printing money. People will get upset because they can't get more devalued dollars. More dollars equals more wealth, right? :( People are about to wake up to the fact that you can't beat the laws of supply and demand.

[outspoken]

The 20th century taught Europeans nothing sadly.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

If there's a near total blackout, which it looks like there is, how do we even know who these protesters are? I wouldn't agree with riots over entitlements, but the establishment is hellbent on preventing any change or threat to their power.

[jmdrake]

Yeah, was my guess.

With the Arab Spring you have members of the majority fighting to oust the minority that controls them. With these anti-austerity protests in the West you have the minority (gov workers/unions) trying to keep themselves in power and well fed.

Oh really? From the link.

What sparked this? The bailing out of Spanish banks, the enormously high unemployment rate, the corruption tied to both parties, the passing of specific laws that many associate with censorship (the new anti-piracy law passed by this government), and the fact that the recent measures by the government are not those of a left wing party, and many feel cheated.

I'm sure some of those protesting are government workers, but some of the protesters sound like us. The bottom line is that around the world governments are going broke because they bailed out the banksters and the people are being royally screwed over because of it.

[ForLibertyFight]

Fuck them. They want all this government nanny-state, benefits, etc. Then their government goes bankrupt, and the IMF (the United States) bails them out, exactly what happened with Greece. Selfish bastards.

Nothing is more arrogant than the attitude of one who thinks they're "entitled".

This.
I've traveled to Spain and many of the locals that I talked politics with believed that they were entitled to free hand outs from the government.

I still love Spain. Fascinating place with friendly people.

[specialK]

Fuck them. They want all this government nanny-state, benefits, etc. Then their government goes bankrupt, and the IMF (the United States) bails them out, exactly what happened with Greece. Selfish bastards.

Nothing is more arrogant than the attitude of one who thinks they're "entitled".

I don't know about Spain, but if my government extorts money from me and then spends it on things like laser-guided smart bombs to bomb Libya, damn rights I'm entitled.

[anaconda]

Except in Greece, where the majority are government employees from what I understand. Can you imagine a more effective way of staying large than employing more than half your workforce?

Unless your government goes completely belly up.

[Carehn]

Now if only we good do the same thing (for different reasons).

Just get the word out the cowboys play the redskins on the white house lawn and we will have thousands show on the drop of a hat. Then will tell the news they are protesting 'blank'.

People show up and scream for sports.

[Carehn]

Honestly, I hope they succeed. Okay, I suspect they would push for Socialism and go nuts, but if they do that the entire crooked system will collapse in on itself, and the sooner that happens the less painful the crash will be.

Im with you man '' We would be damn fools not to ride this rocket to the end'' Let all jump on the collectivist band wagon just one more time. Maybe this time it will work lol. The sooner the better. It will be sad to see most of those people die of starvation, but its all part of the circle of life i guess.

Hope you boys have a little food stock. Shits about to get fun.

[mhad]

it's probably just another festival!

[dannno]

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/4dd590da4bd7c87a4b000000-407-304/inflation-spain.jpg
The inflation problem in Spain, in real prices



You Need To Be Watching What's Developing In Spain Right Now
Gregory White | May 19, 2011

Protests have been raging in Spain since Sunday, May 15. The one we've been seeing pictures of is in Madrid, in the famous Puerta del Sol. But there were protests in 60 different locations on Sunday, and they're still raging in different parts of the country.

The center of the movement is very much Puerta del Sol, where protesters are now camping out overnight just like they did in Tahrir Square in Egypt. The protesters claim they will stay in the square until after regional elections this Sunday, according to Der Spiegel. The protest movement has been declared illegal by the government, over fears it may influence the result of the elections. The traditional media is allegedly under-covering the story.

Protesters aren't associated with any political party in particular and, instead, the movement is serving as a catch all for those upset over the current economic situation in Spain. The country has a 21% unemployment rate and a 43% youth unemployment rate. Its inflation rate is above the eurozone average and its growth remains low.

From the outside looking in, it resembles the situation in Egypt in many ways. Disaffected youth, enraged by a high unemployment rate, communicating over new forms of social media, subverting the traditional power structure in the country.

But Spain is a completely different country than Egypt, and others experiencing protest movements in the Middle East. It's democratic, and protesters are requesting reforms, not regicide. And things are getting better in Spain, although perhaps not fast enough.

In many ways, it comes down to what happens at this weekend's elections, according to Pau Garcia:

If the upcoming elections see a raise in the number of voters, but a decline in the two biggest political parties (Out own republican and democrat parties) , the social movement will go further, and probably some key changes will start to evolve. But if less people vote, or in uncertainty the fear moves people to the biggest parties, as strong as the tide arrived, it will go back to the traditional and sadly famous Spanish lack of interest on anything beyond food, R&R and soccer.

So you need to watch the protests closely, especially in the wake of Sunday's elections.

(see link for photos)



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/spain-protest-spainrevolution-2011-5#ixzz1MvwtBA4C


http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4dd411b74bd7c82a491c0000-590/slide-01.jpg

[ds21089]

http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4dd411b74bd7c82a491c0000-590/slide-01.jpg


Are they shouting, "DOWN WITH L'OREAL!!?"

[eduardo89]

Here in Spain, all people protest are cuts in spending. They get angry the country isn't socialist enough and that they don't get enough benefits. I hate it, my university is plastered in communist posters...

But one thing that's killing here is the price inflation, I swear every time I go to the super market, prices have gone up. Every time I'm there with my brother we calculate how much prices have gone up on different products. It's always like 5-12% a month!

[eduardo89]

Fuck them. They want all this government nanny-state, benefits, etc. Then their government goes bankrupt, and the IMF (the United States) bails them out, exactly what happened with Greece. Selfish bastards.

Nothing is more arrogant than the attitude of one who thinks they're "entitled".

I've had that discussion a million times in class here. There's a dispicable sense of entitlement.

[Matthew Zak]

Here in Spain, all people protest are cuts in spending. They get angry the country isn't socialist enough and that they don't get enough benefits. I hate it, my university is plastered in communist posters...

But one thing that's killing here is the price inflation, I swear every time I go to the super market, prices have gone up. Every time I'm there with my brother we calculate how much prices have gone up on different products. It's always like 5-12% a month!

Any chance you can bail? Sounds like hyper inflation has completely set in there.

[PeacePlan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSrSGLqB0Nk

[eduardo89]

Any chance you can bail? Sounds like hyper inflation has completely set in there.

Oh I'm leaving here very soon. There's no point in staying here, under-30 unemployment is over 40%, there's no future in Spain. We're going to have a lost generation for sure, they just haven't realized what the real problem is. They think government is the answer.

[LibForestPaul]

Da 'gubmint takin' way my moneyz. Meanwhile immigrants will displace the native population of Europeans by something like 2030.

If the government, though violent force, has a monopoly on the necessary services, then this mafia organization decides certain groups will be denied said services, you expect different behavior?

[libertyjam]

But one thing that's killing here is the price inflation, I swear every time I go to the super market, prices have gone up. Every time I'm there with my brother we calculate how much prices have gone up on different products. It's always like 5-12% a month!

Seems like that is what is happening here now too.

[eduardo89]

Seems like that is what is happening here now too.

I thought Ben Bernanke and his quantitative easing fixed the economy?

[libertyjam]

I thought Ben Bernanke and his quantitative easing fixed the economy?


:D:D:D:D:D:D There's no ROTFL busting a gut smiley so that will have to do.

[UK4Paul]

I thought Ben Bernanke and his quantitative easing fixed the economy?

Wow, I love how you resisted the temptation to add even ONE smiley to that comment :)

[outspoken]

Let them eat L'Oreal. Hath the 20th century taught us nothing?

I always find it astonishing that entire nations can be lead like blind sheep to believe the state can take care of them and all their needs/wants/desires. This is probably the greatest evil that can infect a human mind and heart. Our government claims to want to put an end to it but with surgical precision. It is BS and this malignancy of the soul needs to be cut out by ALL means possible if we are to save humanity before the host is anniliated from within. 'The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.' ~Albert Einstein

[s35wf]

Oh really? From the link.

What sparked this? The bailing out of Spanish banks, the enormously high unemployment rate, the corruption tied to both parties, the passing of specific laws that many associate with censorship (the new anti-piracy law passed by this government), and the fact that the recent measures by the government are not those of a left wing party, and many feel cheated.

I'm sure some of those protesting are government workers, but some of the protesters sound like us. The bottom line is that around the world governments are going broke because they bailed out the banksters and the people are being royally screwed over because of it.

I am ready to pull the trigger; Im losing everything ive worked for over the last 20 years. I have no job, cant find work, the last job i had was for $ 8 hr. which i might add is what i used to earn in 1986. This was a telemarketing gig who just fired 40% of the people working there including me.

Ive depleted 50K of saving over the last couple years, down to my last couple dollars & have some silver as my escape $; Business after business is folding/closing in this state. Numerous gas stations, restaurants, car lots, sitting empty. Dunkin Donuts, KFC & Taco Bell have closed in my neighborhood.

When they come to take my house; i am not leaving. I will fight them off with lead. I will die.

Nothing left to lose in FL

[Ricky201]

Fiat currency, east credit, and welfare is not a policy, it's a disease. All these countries are going to pay dearly for their trust in government.

But let me guess...the capitalist will get blamed.

[raiha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtaNg8c8OtU&feature=player_embedded

[hugolp]

There is no media blackout. All the media here is reporting on these people. They are getting a lot of media time.

[Fredom101]

This.
I've traveled to Spain and many of the locals that I talked politics with believed that they were entitled to free hand outs from the government.

I still love Spain. Fascinating place with friendly people.

Funny. I've traveled all over the world and in Spain I found very few friendly people. Every restaurant I went to there was not a warm feeling as they handed us the English menus. I didn't understand it. This was all over Spain not just in one or two places. In any event I too loved the country in many ways.

[hazek]

There is no media blackout. All the media here is reporting on these people. They are getting a lot of media time.

Yeah but there's almost nothing in world news about it, at least it wasn't 10 or so hours ago when I searched.

[Travlyr]

When they come to take my house; i am not leaving. I will fight them off with lead. I will die.

Not to derail this thread except for this one post.

Your mortgage company may not have the right paperwork to foreclose on your home.
Just as you cannot take a paycheck to Kinkos, copy it, and cash the copy, the mortgage holder cannot copy your promissory note and foreclose. They must produce the original promissory note with your signature.

Something like 85% to 90% of the mortgage holders since the late 80's cannot produce the original paperwork because they were lost in the shuffle of bundling mortgage backed securities.

Here (http://www.consumerdefenseprograms.com/) is more information that I found on the Internet. Use it at your own risk, if it will help, because while the information seems good to me, I am not a lawyer, and I have no personal need to investigate the validity of it.

[Zippyjuan]

Yeah but there's almost nothing in world news about it, at least it wasn't 10 or so hours ago when I searched.

I had no troubles finding news on it.

[A Son of Liberty]

I am ready to pull the trigger; Im losing everything ive worked for over the last 20 years. I have no job, cant find work, the last job i had was for $ 8 hr. which i might add is what i used to earn in 1986. This was a telemarketing gig who just fired 40% of the people working there including me.

Ive depleted 50K of saving over the last couple years, down to my last couple dollars & have some silver as my escape $; Business after business is folding/closing in this state. Numerous gas stations, restaurants, car lots, sitting empty. Dunkin Donuts, KFC & Taco Bell have closed in my neighborhood.

When they come to take my house; i am not leaving. I will fight them off with lead. I will die.

Nothing left to lose in FL

Wow I'm really sorry to hear this, sw35f. Take the advice and look into the holder of your note! Don't give up!

[speciallyblend]

I am ready to pull the trigger; Im losing everything ive worked for over the last 20 years. I have no job, cant find work, the last job i had was for $ 8 hr. which i might add is what i used to earn in 1986. This was a telemarketing gig who just fired 40% of the people working there including me.

Ive depleted 50K of saving over the last couple years, down to my last couple dollars & have some silver as my escape $; Business after business is folding/closing in this state. Numerous gas stations, restaurants, car lots, sitting empty. Dunkin Donuts, KFC & Taco Bell have closed in my neighborhood.

When they come to take my house; i am not leaving. I will fight them off with lead. I will die.

Nothing left to lose in FL

the banks want your property and will do nothing to help! We lost our house back in 2009! We finally walked away since the bank had no interest in helping us. We spent 3 weeks trying to get a figure to catch up on my mortgage and then we got that figure and had raised money and called the bank to let them know we would be there monday to catch up fully! They fed ex'ed another bill adding another 3000 to the bill! At the point we packed our stuff up and left! We really had no choice but to walk away so we didn't end up homeless!!