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Anti Federalist
05-15-2011, 10:04 PM
So much fail...


Cameras in Texas schools to keep eyes on fries

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/13/us-food-cafeterias-cameras-odd-idUSTRE74C3AH20110513?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FoddlyEnoughNews+%28 News+%2F+US+%2F+Oddly+Enough%29

(Reuters) - The next time children in some elementary schools in Texas try to sneak extra french fries onto their tray in the cafeteria line, the eye in the sky will be watching them.

Using a $2 million grant from the Department of Agriculture, the schools in San Antonio are installing sophisticated cameras in the cafeteria line and trash area that read food bar codes embedded in the food trays.

"We're going to snap a picture of the food tray at the cashier and we will know what has been served," said Dr. Roberto Trevino of the San Antonio-based Social and Health Research Center, which is implementing the pilot program at five schools with high rates of childhood obesity and children living in poverty.

"When the child goes back to the disposal window, we're going to measure the leftover."

The goal of the program is to cut down on childhood obesity by providing parents and school nutrition specialists with information on what types of food elementary students are eating.

They will then be able to design healthy meals based on students' real-life habits, the center's spokeswoman Denise Jones said. Parents will also be able to use the information to help them design healthier meals at home.

"We will be able to determine whether current programs that are aimed at preventing obesity work, and whether they are really changing students' behavior," Trevino said.

Officials will receive information on the nutrient and calorie counts of the food children have actually consumed.

The technology will identify the food, capture the nutrient levels and measure the food that children eat, according to Dr. Roger Echon of the center, who designed the program.

Echon on Wednesday showed reporters a printout of the reading from one student's tray at W.W. White Elementary School. It listed the size of the serving, and its calorie, fiber, sugar, and protein count.

He said the program can break down the data into total monounsaturated fatty acids, soluble dietary fiber, and more than 100 other specific measures.

Trevino said the children will not be photographed, and only children who have the permission of their parents or guardians will be allowed to participate.

He said that if the effort is successful in San Antonio, the plan is to implement similar programs in elementary schools nationwide.

heavenlyboy34
05-15-2011, 10:17 PM
"Using a $2 million grant from the Department of Agriculture, the schools in San Antonio are installing sophisticated cameras in the cafeteria line and trash area that read food bar codes embedded in the food trays."
Big Brother wants your kids too-since murdering foreigners just isn't enough to keep them busy. /facepalm @ surveilance statism

Pericles
05-15-2011, 10:17 PM
As if anyone on this site needed another reason to keep children away from the public fool system.

gerryb
05-15-2011, 10:22 PM
Why can't they just look at the cash register receipt?

Jay Tea
05-15-2011, 10:27 PM
I get the feeling that I'm going to be a fly in the ointment here, but at least as I understand the article, this seems to be an attempt to tabulate which foods the kids actually want to eat, then use their preferences to try to provide healthy food that, again, they'd want to eat. And the parents have to agree to the program first. I have the same initial reaction to electronic monitoring that many here share, but after reading the article, I feel like the schools are trying to adapt to the students, rather than trying to force the opposite. Am I misunderstanding something?

gerryb
05-15-2011, 10:45 PM
I get the feeling that I'm going to be a fly in the ointment here, but at least as I understand the article, this seems to be an attempt to tabulate which foods the kids actually want to eat, then use their preferences to try to provide healthy food that, again, they'd want to eat. And the parents have to agree to the program first. I have the same initial reaction to electronic monitoring that many here share, but after reading the article, I feel like the schools are trying to adapt to the students, rather than trying to force the opposite. Am I misunderstanding something?

Why is $2 million in surveillance necessary? ask the cashier, look at the receipts... not hard..

oyarde
05-16-2011, 11:03 AM
Alright , 2 million for ten cameras . I will get it done for 1 million , please have these douchebags contact me for one million in savings !!! This month only !!

specialK
05-16-2011, 11:09 AM
I guess over the next 500 years, they will save $2 million dollars in stolen french fries to make the investment worth while.

Anti Federalist
05-16-2011, 12:15 PM
I get the feeling that I'm going to be a fly in the ointment here, but at least as I understand the article, this seems to be an attempt to tabulate which foods the kids actually want to eat, then use their preferences to try to provide healthy food that, again, they'd want to eat. And the parents have to agree to the program first. I have the same initial reaction to electronic monitoring that many here share, but after reading the article, I feel like the schools are trying to adapt to the students, rather than trying to force the opposite. Am I misunderstanding something?

Tell you the honest truth, after carefully reading the story again, I'm not quite sure what the goal is.

It seems that it will monitor what was eaten and what was discarded and try to "design" meals that try to get around the natural response to eat what tastes good and throw out what tastes like shit.

When you start talking about about surveillance for kids and millions of dollars spent, I, just like you said, have a natural reaction to be opposed.

VIDEODROME
05-16-2011, 12:22 PM
Just close the schools and start over.

LibertyEagle
05-16-2011, 12:27 PM
Using a $2 million grant from the Department of Agriculture, the schools in San Antonio are installing sophisticated cameras in the cafeteria line and trash area that read food bar codes embedded in the food trays.


Well, there's yet another federal agency that clearly has way more money than they need to have.

This whole thing is asinine. If you don't want kids eating so many french fries, stop serving them so often in school. If you want to know how many are being eaten, figure it out on the production side, or check the cash register. Case closed. Money saved.

LibertyEagle
05-16-2011, 12:28 PM
I think it's conditioning, AF.

Kylie
05-16-2011, 12:50 PM
Well, there's yet another federal agency that clearly has way more money than they need to have.

This whole thing is asinine. If you don't want kids eating so many french fries, stop serving them so often in school. If you want to know how many are being eaten, figure it out on the production side, or check the cash register. Case closed. Money saved.



Thank you! I was thinking the exact same thing!

The feds got money to waste on this, and they expect me to let them raise the debt ceiling, to, what, borrow more money to do this?

It's like we live in Idiocracy. Freakin nuts the shit they will use our money for.

Anti Federalist
05-16-2011, 12:53 PM
I think it's conditioning, AF.

I tried not to come right out and say it, for fear of being branded a "broken record".

But of course, you're absolutely right, it's just another layer of surveillance to condition you to the fact that everything you do is being monitored, analyzed and saved in a database to eventually be used against you in some way or another.

Jordan
05-16-2011, 01:22 PM
I get the feeling that I'm going to be a fly in the ointment here, but at least as I understand the article, this seems to be an attempt to tabulate which foods the kids actually want to eat, then use their preferences to try to provide healthy food that, again, they'd want to eat. And the parents have to agree to the program first. I have the same initial reaction to electronic monitoring that many here share, but after reading the article, I feel like the schools are trying to adapt to the students, rather than trying to force the opposite. Am I misunderstanding something?

I share in your sentiment. Yeah, whatever, bureaucracy sucks, but I imagine the data collected will be worth far more than $2 million.

aGameOfThrones
05-16-2011, 01:36 PM
It's for the children...

TruckinMike
05-16-2011, 03:46 PM
I think it's conditioning, AF.

ding ding, winner!