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spotics
10-27-2007, 04:09 PM
There is going to be something of an antiwar film fest in town. This event was put on by a Democratic run antiwar group that is going to try to convince viewers that you need to vote for Hillary, Obama, or Edwards to end the war.

Is there an a flyer that compares Hillary, Obama, and Edwards' record on the war in Iraq, civil liberties, and potential war in Iran to Ron Paul's.

Thanks

RonPaul_Has_2_first_names
10-27-2007, 04:20 PM
I'm not sure but if someone gives me some material to use (such as facts about those 3 candidates that proves they are not anti-war), I can probably make a flyer up, I have to make a political flyer for my computer graphics class in college any way, this could be a good chance for me to help Ron Paul out and at the same time get a good grade.

forever4now
10-27-2007, 04:20 PM
Check out the "Democrats for Ron Paul" flyers under the "Flyers, Brochures" section here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=28022.

Eric21ND
10-27-2007, 04:21 PM
My friend supports Obama so any info to convert them to Paul would be useful.

RonPaul_Has_2_first_names
10-27-2007, 04:37 PM
Check out the "Democrats for Ron Paul" flyers under the "Flyers, Brochures" section here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=28022.

That one is good, but could use some graphical work to make it more appealing and eye-catching. I'm going to work on one now from scratch, it will probably suck since I'm new to this and haven't finished my graphics design classes yet, but I'll post it when I'm done anyway.

RonPaul_Has_2_first_names
10-27-2007, 04:55 PM
I need to know, did Hillary, Obama, and Edwards all vote for the Iraq war? Did any of them vote against any legislation trying to end the Iraq war? Did any of them vote for anything pro-war with Iran?

I need as much info on their stances and voting records with war as I can, someone help me.

forever4now
10-27-2007, 05:55 PM
I was only given links to those flyers to include in my thread, so I don't know all the details. This is the post with the links: http://dailypaul.com/node/3236#comment-18816. Perhaps that person can help you with your questions, or someone else in this forum.


I need to know, did Hillary, Obama, and Edwards all vote for the Iraq war? Did any of them vote against any legislation trying to end the Iraq war? Did any of them vote for anything pro-war with Iran?

I need as much info on their stances and voting records with war as I can, someone help me.

jj111
10-27-2007, 05:58 PM
Look under San Francisco Ron Paul 2008 Meetup Group under the Files section.
There is an updated Antiwar Voterguide. Also there is an updated Liberal Voterguide. They both should be good, you choose.

jj111
10-27-2007, 05:59 PM
Obama did not vote for Iraq War as he was not in Congress.
I don't know about Edwards, but really the leaders now are Obama and Hillary, so the flyer I recommended above has only Hillary and Obama on it.

RonPaul_Has_2_first_names
10-27-2007, 06:21 PM
heres what ive come up so far needs a lot of graphical changes I know, but I need more "issues" to put next to the dem's names, got nothing really for edwards and obama.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8324/rpawyj5.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpawyj5.jpg)

Will be available in .pdf form (higher quality printout) as soon as I can find somewhere to host pdf files

slantedview
10-27-2007, 06:22 PM
There is going to be something of an antiwar film fest in town. This event was put on by a Democratic run antiwar group that is going to try to convince viewers that you need to vote for Hillary, Obama, or Edwards to end the war.

Is there an a flyer that compares Hillary, Obama, and Edwards' record on the war in Iraq, civil liberties, and potential war in Iran to Ron Paul's.

Thanks
Wow. That's interesting being that they have no plans to end the war! Good Ron Paul promotional opportunity for sure.

RonPaul_Has_2_first_names
10-27-2007, 06:40 PM
new background and some other things added

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7656/rpawgy7.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpawgy7.jpg)

forever4now
10-28-2007, 07:23 AM
new background and some other things added

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7656/rpawgy7.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpawgy7.jpg)
I kinda like the table format in the other flyers. Without reading anything, you get the impression that there is a big difference and that you probably should take a closer look.

John of Des Moines
10-28-2007, 11:24 AM
new background and some other things added

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7656/rpawgy7.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpawgy7.jpg)

If you can change Hillary's photo to a less "taken out of context" one. The audience the flyer is aimed at is a Democratic one so putting a less than flattering photo sort of slaps the reader to the point of turning off many who would otherwise read it. It's like the "Conservatives for Paul" flyer which had photo of Rudy dressed as Judy. I'd get talk-back / arguments from some Republicans who would just look at the photo. I changed it to a regular photo of Rudy (standing aside of the English flag) and the person will read the flyer instead of looking for something to argue or disagree with right off the bat.

Also if you could make the same thing for Iowa but adding with the Iowa campaign phone number 1-888-828-PAUL and send it to me I'll put it put up on the Iowa meetup group's site.

Second, check out the "Blue Dog Democrat" at meetup group http://ronpaul.meetup.com/332/files/ it works with the blue collar Democrat more so.

james1906
10-28-2007, 11:31 AM
If you can change Hillary's photo to a less "taken out of context" one. The audience the flyer is aimed at is a Democratic one so putting a less than flattering photo sort of slaps the reader to the point of turning off many who would otherwise read it. It's like the "Conservatives for Paul" flyer which had photo of Rudy dressed as Judy. I'd get talk-back / arguments from some Republicans who would just look at the photo. I changed it to a regular photo of Rudy (standing aside of the English flag) and the person will read the flyer instead of looking for something to argue or disagree with right off the bat.

Also if you could make the same thing for Iowa but adding with the Iowa campaign phone number 1-888-828-PAUL and send it to me I'll put it put up on the Iowa meetup group's site.

Second, check out the "Blue Dog Democrat" at meetup group http://ronpaul.meetup.com/332/files/ it works with the blue collar Democrat more so.
agreed

James R
10-28-2007, 12:25 PM
There is going to be something of an antiwar film fest in town. This event was put on by a Democratic run antiwar group that is going to try to convince viewers that you need to vote for Hillary, Obama, or Edwards to end the war.

Is there an a flyer that compares Hillary, Obama, and Edwards' record on the war in Iraq, civil liberties, and potential war in Iran to Ron Paul's.

Thanks

Hillary set the withdraw date at 2012 if I remember correctly. What a joke.

RonPaul_Has_2_first_names
10-28-2007, 01:24 PM
Ok hope you will all like the changes. I added a second page now, with a table/graph issues thing that is kind of copied from that democrat flyer, but I think mine is a bit more visually appealing.

Also on the second page I added information about learning more about Ron Paul.

Here is the flyer in PDF version (will print out better):
http://files.meetup.com/517972/Ron%20paul%20anti-war%20flyer%20v1.0.pdf

Here is the flyer pages in jpegs:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5535/rpawah5.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpawah5.jpg)

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9186/rpaw2sp9.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpaw2sp9.jpg)

mwkaufman
10-28-2007, 01:31 PM
Obama has undoubtedly voted to fund the war, I think you should use a less extreme Hillary photo. I think the other three photos are good.

Edit: Also, lots of typos in the chart.

RonPaul_Has_2_first_names
10-28-2007, 01:33 PM
Obama has undoubtedly voted to fund the war, I think you should use a less extreme Hillary photo. I think the other three photos are good.

I added a less extreme hillary photo in, check the post right above, let me know what you think

terlinguatx
10-28-2007, 01:34 PM
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Kacela
10-28-2007, 01:34 PM
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5535/rpawah5.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpawah5.jpg)

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9186/rpaw2sp9.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpaw2sp9.jpg)

Looks great! Though, you spelled "immediately" wrong on the second page.

cjhowe
10-28-2007, 01:35 PM
If it's simply an antiwar event...the last three points in the table should be removed. Mixing issues = herding cats. Other than that, it's awesome!

DJ RP
10-28-2007, 01:36 PM
Ok hope you will all like the changes. I added a second page now, with a table/graph issues thing that is kind of copied from that democrat flyer, but I think mine is a bit more visually appealing.

Also on the second page I added information about learning more about Ron Paul.

Here is the flyer in PDF version (will print out better):
http://files.meetup.com/517972/Ron%20paul%20anti-war%20flyer%20v1.0.pdf

Here is the flyer pages in jpegs:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5535/rpawah5.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpawah5.jpg)

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9186/rpaw2sp9.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpaw2sp9.jpg)


These are great. You've done an excellent job, thank you :)

American
10-28-2007, 01:56 PM
These fliers are really good, can you add the ron paul library also, it has everything Ron Paul.

http://ronpaullibrary.com