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FrankRep
05-13-2011, 08:32 AM
Texas House Bans Offensive Security Pat-Downs (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/05/13/texas-house-bans-offensive-security-pat-downs/)


Associated Press
May 13, 2011



The Texas House passed a bill that would make it a criminal offense for public servants to inappropriately touch travelers during airport security pat-downs.

Approved late Thursday night, the measure makes it illegal for anyone conducting searches to touch “the anus, sexual organ, buttocks, or breast of another person” including through clothing.

It also prohibits searches “that would be offensive to a reasonable person.”

The bill’s chief sponsor is Republican Rep. David Simpson, who said, “this has to do with dignity and travel, and prohibiting indecent, groping searches.”

He believes it will keep Transportation Security Administration officials from treating travelers like criminals, though the measure may be superseded by federal law.
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State vs. Federal: The Nullification Movement (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/2957-state-vs-federal-the-nullification-movement)

Because the Supreme Court has for many years interpreted the Constitution in a manner to further empower the federal government, states are moving to take power back from the feds through a growing and vibrant nullification movement. By Patrick Krey

Nullification in a Nutshell (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/american/2971-nullification-in-a-nutshell)

The modern-day nullification movement has as its genesis the principle of federalism and the writings of James Madison and Thomas Jefferson, in particularly the famous Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions of 1798, supporting the right of states to nullify unconstitutional federal usurpations. By Patrick Krey

VBRonPaulFan
05-13-2011, 08:36 AM
i really hope this catches on!

Romulus
05-13-2011, 08:38 AM
Nice!

payme_rick
05-13-2011, 08:39 AM
Well I will be damned...

...if I'm lucky...

eduardo89
05-13-2011, 08:40 AM
Ok so this passed the Texas House, does it have a shot of passing (or even being brought up) in the Senate? I'm sure if it goes get passed Perry will have no problem signing it, he'd get so much press and he's quite the attention whore.

payme_rick
05-13-2011, 08:49 AM
Ok so this passed the Texas House, does it have a shot of passing (or even being brought up) in the Senate?

My gut says "absofuckinlutelly!" But maybe I'll have to tune into Tx State Sen. Dan Patrick's radio show this eve and see what he's got to say about it...


I'm sure if it goes get passed Perry will have no problem signing it, he'd get so much press and he's quite the attention whore.

Yah, "all over it like white on rice" comes to mind... He'd for sure make sure everyone knew about it...

Bern
05-13-2011, 09:00 AM
Excellent

tangent4ronpaul
05-13-2011, 09:11 AM
Good, but if it goes through I think it would just mean mandatory porno-scans for everyone.

CUnknown
05-13-2011, 09:14 AM
Well, it sounds like it would just be ignored and superceded by Federal law. The real challenge for Texas is, what do they do then?

TruckinMike
05-13-2011, 09:28 AM
Based on the fact that most of Texas' state legislators are only Faux liberty lovers, I would have to say that they have NO intention of this passing. ---- Just like Perry, they are all show and no go.

If the bill's chief sponsor, David Simpson, believes that the feds can supersede


... though the measure may be superseded by federal law.

--- then it will be, and David Simpson will allow it. But still manage to garner much needed political KUDOS for trying. These State reps in Texas are pure politicians. I have no faith in them. Whats really bad is the local Radio hosts like Dan Patrick continue the slight of hand manipulation of the public-- Dan would blame it all on the FEDS instead of the weak Texans for not making a stand for states right autonomy. He would NOT expose their capitulation of power.

Signed, hope bashing prognosticator of Doom,

TMike

PS- I've known one of them for over twenty years -- And He's a "good Republican":rolleyes:

EDIT: In a post a little further down I was politely informed that David Simpson is one of US. A genuine Ron PAul supporter. I still mean what I said and say what I mean --- I"ll leave this up to David to prove me wrong. Lets hope he will.

LibertyEagle
05-13-2011, 09:31 AM
This is interesting, but according to the man who wrote the legislation that gave rise to the TSA, airports have the ability to completely toss out the TSA and he suggested they do just that.

So, perhaps the better avenue is to be putting pressure on the airports.

payme_rick
05-13-2011, 09:47 AM
Yah, good ole Dan Patrick... Rick Perry is his daddy... Dan Patrick is Pat Gray's daddy (Beck Program douche, previously employed by Patrick)... I guess that means Pat Gray is Rick Perry's grandson... He must have gotten the switch taken to his hide, as he doesn't criticize Pa-Paw as much anymore, and tells his half-brother Glenny not to either...

That radio station was interesting (or not) during the last race for governor... Dan Patrick wouldn't really toot the Perry horn on the radio in an effort to not seem biased (but would go and introduce him at events)... Then the other host (Ed Hendy?) would only say "I like Hutch, but I'm good with either!", giving no reasons/details, meaning "I'm not allowed to speak out against Perry, plus we want to seem unbiased so I'll say I prefer Kay though I sneak out of the house every night to go smooch with Rick.." Most of their on-air time was spent dismissing Medina when callers would inquire about her...

Patrick seems to be Perry's mouth/hand in the state senate and has decent influence from what I can tell, so we shall see... Oh and did he love him some Cain last week...jackhole!

libertarian4321
05-13-2011, 01:33 PM
I think this is a great idea. TSA twits should have no more right to grope the genitals of a citizen who is not suspected of a crime than anyone else.

Anti Federalist
05-13-2011, 05:09 PM
This is interesting, but according to the man who wrote the legislation that gave rise to the TSA, airports have the ability to completely toss out the TSA and he suggested they do just that.

So, perhaps the better avenue is to be putting pressure on the airports.

Yes, an airport system can "opt out" of using TSA and hire private contractors.

But, the private contractors must adhere to all TSA policies.

These are private contractors:

http://nation.foxnews.com/sites/nation.foxnews.com/files/imagecache/dv1/TSA_baby_search_dailymail.jpg

Anti Federalist
05-13-2011, 05:12 PM
Well, it sounds like it would just be ignored and superceded by Federal law. The real challenge for Texas is, what do they do then?

That^^^ +1776 +rep

If they pass this, does Rick Perry have the stones to instruct the Texas Rangers to arrest TSA agents conducting "enhanced pat downs"? (nice how that just rolls off the tongue, like enhanced interrogations)

Stary Hickory
05-13-2011, 05:43 PM
Good for Texas, catch those perverts in the act and lock them up and register them as sex offenders. Bunch of child molesting perverts. Sick to death of these creeps, you know 50-60 years ago even people would have rushed any agent like that frisking a small child, he would have been beaten to a pulp.

I think we have hit critical mass with the size and scope of government and it is going to vent out soon, all at once.

Lucille
05-13-2011, 06:10 PM
Good, but if it goes through I think it would just mean mandatory porno-scans for everyone.

That's what Daniel McCarthy says:

Texas Plays Into TSA’s Hands (http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/05/13/texas-plays-into-tsas-hands/)


...the Texas legislature has just done Napolitano and TSA a tremendous favor.

If the bill becomes law, Texas will be on its way to becoming the first state to deprive air travelers of the option not to go through TSA’s pornoscanners. It’s not as if the agency recognizes any fundamental right not to be subject to the scanners, after all. The pat-downs began as a PR move, easing resistance to the introduction of the scanners by giving travelers a (conditional) choice. The ensuing outrage over “groping” is probably not what TSA was going for, but that too serves a purpose: it sensationalizes the problem and makes the scanners seem less objectionable by contrast. (I’m not inclined to think TSA planned it that way, but then, the agency has been known to experiment with traveler psychology).
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If Texas Rep. David Simpson, sponsor of the legislation, and his allies are really concerned about travelers’ dignity, they shouldn’t ban only the most egregious of TSA’s abuses. They should target the agency itself.

Pericles
05-13-2011, 06:34 PM
That^^^ +1776 +rep

If they pass this, does Rick Perry have the stones to instruct the Texas Rangers to arrest TSA agents conducting "enhanced pat downs"? (nice how that just rolls off the tongue, like enhanced interrogations)

Perry can call on some help :

GOVERNMENT CODE

TITLE 4. EXECUTIVE BRANCH

SUBTITLE C. STATE MILITARY FORCES AND VETERANS

CHAPTER 431. STATE MILITIA


SUBCHAPTER A. GENERAL PROVISIONS


Sec. 431.001. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
(1) "Reserve militia" means the persons liable to serve, but not serving, in the state military forces.
(1-a) "Servicemember" has the meaning assigned by Section 161.551, Health and Safety Code.
(2) "State militia" means the state military forces and the reserve militia.
(3) "State military forces" means the Texas National Guard, the Texas State Guard, and any other active militia or military force organized under state law.
(4) "Texas National Guard" means the Texas Army National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard.

Dustancostine
05-13-2011, 07:13 PM
--- then it will be, and David Simpson will allow it. But still manage to garner much needed political KUDOS for trying. These State reps in Texas are pure politicians. I have no faith in them.
Signed, hope bashing prognosticator of Doom,

TMike


Mike,

I am a little suprised at you. You should be ashamed of yourself. Being from Texas you should know that David Simpson is a hard working Ron Paulite. He was the organizer in East Texas in 07, ran for Delegate spot as a Ron Paul supporter at the state convention in 08, then ran for State Rep. in '10 and beat out a Neocon Liberal Republican incumbent. He is doing exactly what Ron Paul asked of us. To bash him without research is insulting.

Dustancostine
05-13-2011, 07:15 PM
That's what Daniel McCarthy says:

Texas Plays Into TSA’s Hands (http://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/05/13/texas-plays-into-tsas-hands/)

BTW I guess the writer of this article didn't read the legislation. It says that they cannot force you to go through the pornoscanners either :rollseyes

Bern
05-13-2011, 07:29 PM
...
It also prohibits searches “that would be offensive to a reasonable person.”
...

No porno scanners. No groping.

AGRP
05-13-2011, 07:46 PM
This seems incredibly counterproductive.

Why don't states just nullify the TSA all together.

TruckinMike
05-13-2011, 07:56 PM
Mike,

I am a little suprised at you. You should be ashamed of yourself. Being from Texas you should know that David Simpson is a hard working Ron Paulite. He was the organizer in East Texas in 07, ran for Delegate spot as a Ron Paul supporter at the state convention in 08, then ran for State Rep. in '10 and beat out a Neocon Liberal Republican incumbent. He is doing exactly what Ron Paul asked of us. To bash him without research is insulting.

Well Ok, I apologize for the lazyness -- But you'll have to understand that I've been conditioned/programmed like pavlovs dogs to respond in such a manner. It is "they," our state reps that have done this to me ---- for now, I will continue with my unabashed distrust of those lackeys --- that is until they re-condition my way of thinking. :D

TMike

Napoleon's Shadow
06-19-2011, 02:48 PM
TX Gov Rick Perry got cornered yesterday at the RLC about his refusal to sign a bill banning the TSA from Texas. This video was just posted and is very fresh.

Watch him squirm:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NoUIFdaNC8&feature=player_embedded#at=88

Bern
06-19-2011, 02:53 PM
Well that really grinds my gears!

LibertyEagle
06-19-2011, 02:55 PM
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Anti Federalist
06-19-2011, 04:39 PM
"Will the real Rick Perry stand up?"

He did: backpedal, squirm, duck and weave and don't let go of the guy's hand until the photo op is complete.

That is the real Rick Perry, which is to say, any establishment politician.

I doubt Romney would have done anything different, or any of the rest of them.