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aid632007
05-12-2011, 07:01 PM
My problem with Socialism is that it will deny Individualism Socialism is Collectivism what do you think here is a link with both sides to the issue ?

http://freedomkeys.com/collectivism.htm
aid632007
05-12-2011, 08:00 PM
I think Individual Ownership of Property is better than Collective Ownership.
ClayTrainor
05-12-2011, 08:28 PM
I think Individual Ownership of Property is better than Collective Ownership.

Of course. :) Collective ownership can only be moral, if all the individuals within the collective consent to the terms.
aid632007
05-12-2011, 08:31 PM
I don't support what the Soviet Union did they took Farms away from Individual Farmers/Owners and made the Farms Collective Farms.
ClayTrainor
05-12-2011, 08:41 PM
I don't support what the Soviet Union did they took Farms away from Individual Farmers/Owners and made the Farms Collective Farms.

That would be flatout theft. :)
TruckinMike
05-12-2011, 09:15 PM
Show this to your collectivist friends...

In a Nut shell ---- The Holodomor (genocide by famine): The Ukrainian farmers had no need for collectivism, but collectivism needed the farms. The NKVD (The People's Commissariat) stole all crops from the Ukrainian farmers at the barrel of a gun (post gun confiscation). The farmers had a few revolts but nothing significant - The NKVD's opposition was slowly starved out of existence - "Holodomor famine". Collectivism won the day.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_49Bcbuc6ngM/SwlIE31_4iI/AAAAAAAAAio/NjME75Z_Zto/s1600/Holodomor+14.jpg
NKVD workers were paid 200 grams of bread for each body the removed from the streets or homes. How nice.:)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3T6JM8VYC-4/SS3Q2hEZPDI/AAAAAAAAAV0/mqKMF6FXzXo/s320/4927fb4fa5c37.jpghttp://www.patriotthoughts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Ukraine-famine-holodomor.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvGP3vnzdPo&NR=1

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XQU_UEcl5U&feature=related

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlslHXPN2Fo
evilfunnystuff
05-12-2011, 09:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJqSsrFDiSA&playnext=1&list=PL882F49BA1759DF9F
TruckinMike
05-13-2011, 05:53 AM
bump, because this thread needs more attention.