This is just flat out disturbing

[emr1028]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum#Family

"Karen Santorum wrote a book about the experience: Letters to Gabriel: The True Story of Gabriel Michael Santorum.[11] In it, she writes that the couple brought the deceased infant home from the hospital and introduced the dead child to their living children as "your brother Gabriel" and slept with the body overnight before returning it to the hospital. The anecdote was also written about by Michael Sokolove in a 2005 New York Times Magazine story on Santorum.[1] Karen is also the author of a book on etiquette for children.[12]"

[ronpaulitician]

"You have a right to do things that are very controversial."

Creepy, but to each their own. I don't have kids, but can imagine being distraught enough when my baby dies to do things outside of my normal behavior.

[Seraphim]

It grew in her for 9 months - if they wanna sleep with the dead baby for a night to remember it's existence - no matter how short - I can't fault them for that.

This is truly the LAST thing I'd ever bring up as a means of defeating someone in the realm of politics.

[Ex Lux lucis]

While I agree that this is surely aberrant behaviour, it is somewhat cruel to bring it up within the context of a campaign, and is, quite frankly, unnecessary considering his policy is far worse.

[VIDEODROME]

I think Newt Gingrich was worse

[kpfareal]

It grew in her for 9 months - if they wanna sleep with the dead baby for a night to remember it's existence - no matter how short - I can't fault them for that.

This is truly the LAST thing I'd ever bring up as a means of defeating someone in the realm of politics.

Agree 100%

[anaconda]

Sadly, it may have been a political stunt.

[HarryBrowneLives]

Well, I have a sister who had a stillborn child. The hospital staff and Dr's made the baby up and had the mother and family hold the child for at least half the night before taking her away. Psycological thing they said. Most disturbing thing I've encountered in my life. This is actully standard medical practice even though the situation is very rare these days. Not sure about the kids in this matter. I feel for anyone in that situation.

[libertarian4321]

"You have a right to do things that are very controversial."


So let me get this straight.

Santorum thinks it should be a crime for two women in love to sleep together, but it's perfectly fine for him to sleep with a decaying corpse, as long as he loves the corpse?

Yeah, that makes sense- a real "family values" kind of guy.

I wanted to learn more about his beliefs, so I Googled "Santorum"- this was the first entry (this is not a joke, try it yourself):

santorum (san-TOR-um) n.
1. The frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter
that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex.

Sounds about right.

[emazur]

So let me get this straight.

Santorum thinks it should be a crime for two women in love to sleep together, but it's perfectly fine for him to sleep with a decaying corpse, as long as he loves the corpse?


He shouldn't care about drugs either if he really believes "You have a right to do things that are very controversial."

[Mini-Me]

It grew in her for 9 months - if they wanna sleep with the dead baby for a night to remember it's existence - no matter how short - I can't fault them for that.

This is truly the LAST thing I'd ever bring up as a means of defeating someone in the realm of politics.

Good post. Santorum disgusts me, but not because of this. This is tragic. His grief doesn't redeem his ass one bit, but it's still sad.

[Agorism]

I think Santorum should be branded the "angry" candidate. He's angry at the leftists, very angry at the feminists, and especially angry at the gays.

At the debates, he wants to prove that he's very angry too.

[trey4sports]

I think Santorum should be branded the "angry" candidate. He's angry at the leftists, very angry at the feminists, and especially angry at the gays.

At the debates, he wants to prove that he's very angry too.

yeah the way he grinds his teeth makes him look angry

[specsaregood]

I see no problem with what is in the OP.

[BlackTerrel]

This is an incredibly sad story.


I see no problem with what is in the OP.

Please do not post this anywhere else and claim to be a Ron Paul supporter. It will make Ron look far worse than Santorum.

[specsaregood]

This is an incredibly sad story.
Please do not post this anywhere else and claim to be a Ron Paul supporter. It will make Ron look far worse than Santorum.

You have a problem with what Santorum did? I don't. Losing a baby would be a gut wrenching experience and I have no problems with what is quoted in the OP.

[roxic27]

Yeah, I posted this on my facebook page and practically got attacked for it. Not only that but most of the people I have mentioned it to, also didn't find it that out of sorts.

[roxic27]

Also, would anyone think it were disturbing if it had been a 1 year old? Or 5, 10, 15? Or a family member other than a child? What if it had been his wife that died and slept in the same bed with her overnight after she died? What if it had been his sister, brother, or mother?

[specsaregood]

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[roxic27]

I think a stillborn child is different. It says:

For 9 months the other children were prepared and told about their new brother/sister. Is this not a better way to provide closure to them and understanding than just "surprise" it isn't happening! Why not bring the dead baby home so they can see it and touch it and come to understand the meaning of life and death?


I don't find bringing the baby home weird in any way. I chose to do that myself too. I don't even find letting the other kids see it that weird, mine wanted to, I didn't let her, but for my own reasons, and I don't find it that weird that they did that. Sleeping with the body in their bed overnight though... I just find that weird. Not saying it has anything to do with his politics, just that I find it weird.

[PaulConventionWV]

Also, would anyone think it were disturbing if it had been a 1 year old? Or 5, 10, 15? Or a family member other than a child? What if it had been his wife that died and slept in the same bed with her overnight after she died? What if it had been his sister, brother, or mother?

Either way, to me, it would have been extremely disturbing. The fact that it was a child is just slightly more disturbing.

[Ex Lux lucis]

The best outcome would be for someone like Romney to bash him over this... then both would face backlash.

[ronpaulitician]

The best outcome would be for someone like Romney to bash him over this... then both would face backlash.
No, the best way is if this doesn't come up whatsoever.

[specsaregood]

I don't find bringing the baby home weird in any way. I chose to do that myself too. I don't even find letting the other kids see it that weird, mine wanted to, I didn't let her, but for my own reasons, and I don't find it that weird that they did that. Sleeping with the body in their bed overnight though... I just find that weird. Not saying it has anything to do with his politics, just that I find it weird.

Fair enough, I just don't find it weird at all, it is just a fresh baby body.

My view is; here we are talking about what seems to me to be a healthy, natural perhaps even primal response to the situation. Whereas if instead of this response she had thrown herself into a binge of drugs and alcohol -- an unhealthy response -- we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

[erowe1]

It grew in her for 9 months - if they wanna sleep with the dead baby for a night to remember it's existence - no matter how short - I can't fault them for that.

This is truly the LAST thing I'd ever bring up as a means of defeating someone in the realm of politics.

+1

[erowe1]

The best outcome would be for someone like Romney to bash him over this... then both would face backlash.

There's nothing to bash.

[Mallory]

I personally agree that the sleeping with it part is creepy, but I also agree it shouldn't be brought up as an attack. Attack him for his big-government RINO views, but leave this stuff to the family. Ron Paul campaign workers should strive to uphold integrity, and that includes not attacking him for this.